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| Green grass and high tides  |
So if you want to adjust a portfolio. Say now or tomorrow or this week. What is the best way to do it so when have dinner tomorrow night you aren't discussing how the markets tanked or had a record gain. Just kind a "nothing really happened today" thank goodness.  I know there are no guarantee's but it seems like there can be indications. Any thoughts? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | ||
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Seeker of Clarity |
I know what Jallen would have said.  | |||
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The markets are closed Wednesday, so your dinner conversation is safe with a Tuesday evening move. | |||
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Dollar cost average in an Index Fund with low cost. End of story. | |||
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^^^^^^ That's the real answer. Move a set dollar amount each day/week/month | |||
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Google "lump sum investing vs. dollar cost averaging." Going all in at once has a higher probability of success/greater return over the long run. Dollar cost averaging minimizes risk - it doesn't maximize reward. | |||
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Political Cynic |
market timing doesn't work pick a day to get in, and get in don't worry about tomorrow if your investment horizon is more than a week markets are volatile the average trend of the market is up, so let it go up [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Thanks guys. Not really market timing. Just adjusting a small (but important ) portfolio mix (asset allocation). It is about 80% stocks. Need to balance it a bit. Will do it and not worry. Limited to how many transactions it will allow. Will do it a bit at a time. Thanks again."Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| Victim of Life's Circumstances  |
Dogs of the Dow gives much food for thought. I like having my money in companies that must pay their shareholders every 3 months or face the music. ________________________ God spelled backwards is dog | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Since this thread came back up on top, I'm just shooting the breeze. For a while so many years back, I was studying some stocks and saw a pattern in several stocks. I saw what I perceived as high and low points in a repeating cycle and I bought and sold accordingly. It wasn't a whole lot of stocks and I wasn't tying up a whole lot of money. Two I remember was Sprint and True Religion. This was how long ago it was. I look at the behavior of the past week which is a return to volatility but if I had sold some during end of January when the market hit a new high and again in September and bought during the correction, I would really be up now instead of just barely up for the year. It's just a common decision: the market just hit a new high, will there be a short term correction or not? The company managing most of my finds don't believe in timing for corrections. Their main strategy is stock/bond mix, sector overweighing/underweighing against a world benchmark, and lastly monitoring to response to the emergence of a bear market to avoid the worst of it which they say occurs in the latter 2/3 of a bear market. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Political Cynic |
here is a recent discussion with some comments by JALLEN https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...420096534#7420096534 I didn't go back to the origin of the thread [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Markets can be timed - but not precisely. You usually miss the actual top and bottom. It's best to be satisfied in taking what's in the middle. Keep in mind that it's like any other skill; it takes about five to ten years to gain proficiency. Simple rule; buy something going up. There is a time to buy, a time to hold and a time to sell. The trend is your friend. V. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Yes... I'm back to "Timing the market" sort of... too. It requires great patience, and diligence. I also read charts, which can be like reading tea leaves. As suggested above, if you're not following it all day, every day.... you're better off Dollar cost averaging in an Index Fund with low cost. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Btw guys, my "Timing the market" was tongue in check. In case that was not obvious  "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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shoot -- buy some today Dow's down 600 ------------------------------ Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Just craft a script or algorithm that mirrors your buys/sells/options against what George Soros does on the stock market. By some amazing coincidence he always seems to know when currencies/markets/commodities are going up or down... | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Might be time to take the old 25K hats out of the closet:  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
If you need to change your allocation of broad categories (bonds v equities, for example) just do it, and don't worry about when. Anything else is trying to time the market, which is a fools errand. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Timing is irrelevant once you come to grips with the fact that you have zero control of your $ once it is IN the market. There are those that do control it - but that is not you or I. | |||
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