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Originally posted by snipeallevil:

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Originally posted by Phantom229: Negative. That's not Newton's Third Law. Newton's Third Law states: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Which would be gravity vs lift? Lift vs gravity is equal action with a equal reaction.

What your describing is a hybrid Bernoulli/Newton theory.

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The Glenn Research Center Lift Theory teaches that the following is the largest contributor to lift.
The air below (blue) the airfoil is deflected downward. The deflection has a horizontal and a vertical components(green). By applying Newton's Third Law of Motion we find that a force (red) that is equal in size to the vertical component of the deflection but in the opposite direction is acting on the wing. From Newton's Second Law of Motion F=ma we learn that a change of the velocity or the the vertical component generates lift. "Lift is a force generated by turning a moving fluid" - Glenns Research Center Theory.

http://pilotsweb.com/principle/lift.htm

I have been flying since I was 12. I have a BA in Professional Aeronautics with Minors in Air Traffic Control and Aviation Safety.

I've seen the top skin pulled completely from the wings of aerobatic planes before.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
I've seen the top skin pulled completely from the wings of aerobatic planes before.

I've always want to fly in an aerobatic aircraft. There's just something about the point and go that kicks ass. Then again, there's something about the grace of a J3 Cub.

Interesting, that deflection lift would provide more lift than "Bernoulli" lift. We were taught about both, but they said that they couldn't tell what the ratios were.

Phantom, I will say you know more than I about aeronautics. I simply understand the basics of fluid dynamics.

Pictures are inbound after I get them loaded on photobucket which is taking forever.

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Originally posted by snipeallevil:
Phantom, I will say you know more than I about aeronautics. I simply understand the basics of fluid dynamics.

Pictures are inbound after I get them loaded on photobucket which is taking forever.

It's all good. Aviation is my life. I'm just glad someone got to enjoy flying.

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When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.

This is "old" advice since you've already been on your flight, however, when I was a young whippersnapper learning to fly and "hanging out" with "old, seasoned fliers", (usually WWII vets) a piece of advice that I got and I still abide today is "never fly in shoes that you couldn't walk home in."

Stop and think about it. If we break down in an automobile, at least we will be alongside a road. When you have an "incident" with an aircraft, you might find yourself in the boondocks...and that is not a place to be wearing flip flops or some other lame footwear.

When I get on board any aircraft today...especially commercial...I always will be wearing a pair of solid shoes that I could in fact walk home in.

I'm looking forward to the pics. Did he let you take the controls?

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Originally posted by Sock Eating Golden:
I'm looking forward to the pics. Did he let you take the controls?

Yep. saw them on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ationQ5fPartsQ5fGear

Sorry about the late pictures but here they are:

King's Island



Luxocttica



Where we flew to



Our mode of transport, pilot in red, wife in gray and me behind the camera








night time shot







West Chester possibly?



Butler County Airport



A ways off from touch down









gettin closer





basically down

The last photo, now that is a moment of zen.

Also all pictures were shot with a Canon Rebel XSi using a 18 - 55mm lens.

I would have brought the telephoto lens but thinking it to big for the cockpit, considering its a 75 - 300mm lens.

I did get to take control for a little bit. I will post pictures of them later, as I do not have them in my possession.

And I got a picture or two of Wright-Patterson AFB, although I do not know what happened to them on my Photobucket account. So those will get posted later.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
The last photo, now that is a moment of zen.

Thank you, I wasn't trying for anything special. But I must admit, it is beautiful picture.

Sunset is my favorite time to fly.
It's natures awe at it's finest sometimes.

I worked in the Luxottica building last year for a consulting gig. Neat view. Drove past Kings Island every day going and coming to work.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:

Very nice picture!

What were you flying at the time in?

Wright - Patterson AFB



For whatever reason I can not make this photo any bigger.

But on the tarmac were four Hercs and smaller transports.

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Originally posted by Phantom229:
I have been flying since I was 12. I have a BA in Professional Aeronautics with Minors in Air Traffic Control and Aviation Safety.

What school would that be from? Because most of the schools I know offer Professional Aeronautics as a BS program.

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Originally posted by snipeallevil:

Very nice picture!

What were you flying at the time in?

1946 Aeronca Champ.
My uncle's plane.