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Broward Elections Supervisor Illegally Destroyed Ballots In Wasserman Schultz Race, Judge Rules
Larry Barszewski, South Florida Sun Sentinel

The Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office violated state and federal laws by destroying ballots from the 2016 Congressional race too soon - and while the ballots were the subject of a lawsuit against the office, a judge has ruled.

Based on that ruling, Florida's Department of State will send election experts to the Broward elections office in the upcoming election "to ensure that all laws are followed," the governor's office said. It could cost the elections office more than $200,000 to pay attorney's fees for Tim Canova, the defeated candidate who sued the office. The decision stems from Canova's bid to unseat Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz in the Democratic primary, a race he lost convincingly, at about 57% to 43%, or 28,809 votes to 21,907.

Canova, who was checking for voting irregularities in the race, sought to look at the paper ballots in March 2017 and took Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes to court three months later when her office hadn't fulfilled his request. Snipes approved the destruction of the ballots in September, signing a certification that said no court cases involving the ballots were pending. Snipes called the action a "mistake" during testimony she gave in the case, saying the boxes were mislabeled and there was "nothing on my part that was intentional" about the destroying the contested ballots. "When I sign, I sign folders filled with information," Snipes said in her testimony, later adding: "I trust my staff. They have the responsibility of giving me information that's correct."

Circuit Judge Raag Singhal ruled Friday that Snipes wrongly destroyed public records because:

- The elections office is required to maintain the ballots in federal elections for 22 months, while Snipes destroyed the ballots after 12 months, which is the retention period for state elections.

- The ballots were the subject of a pending lawsuit, so it would take a court order from the judge in the case to allow their destruction.

Snipes "has not presented any evidence refuting that the public records sought were destroyed while this case was pending before this court," Singhal said.

Snipes will appeal the decision, said her attorney, Burnadette Norris-Weeks. "We think the judge is wrong," Norris-Weeks said. The elections office never refused to provide access to the ballots, she said. Instead, it rejected a request by Canova to use outside equipment to scan the ballots, Norris-Weeks said. Also, it didn't receive a partial payment to cover the costs of the public records request until days before the suit was filed and the scanned copies of the ballots it can currently provide are "accurate and inherently reliable," she said. "It was a mistake [destroying the original ballots], but the ballots were preserved," Norris-Weeks said. "They were scanned shortly after the election."

It's not known if the judge's ruling would lead to any charges. A spokeswoman for Broward State Attorney Michael Satz said the office had not been aware of the ruling, but would obtain a copy of the judge's order and look into it. Canova said he contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation twice in recent months prior to the judge's ruling because it appeared federal ballot retention requirements were violated, but he said he has received no response from the agency. The ruling does allow Canova to have the attorney fees he has paid be reimbursed by the elections office. Leonard Collins, his attorney, said those costs exceed $200,000 already.

Canova has also gotten the state to take interest in his case. The governor's office said the state election monitoring will be so "the citizens of Broward Country can have the efficient, properly run election they deserve. The Secretary of State's office will continue to ensure that every Supervisor of Elections understands and follows the law," the governor's statement said. Norris-Weeks said she isn't sure what type of monitoring is envisioned and sees it as an effort by Republican state leaders to get some control over the heavily Democratic county.

Canova, who is a professor at Nova Southeastern University, would like to see Snipes lose her job. "I think dismissal is an appropriate remedy," Canova said. The judge's ruling cited a previous case that held "dismissal was an appropriate sanction for failing to preserve evidence 'even though the destruction of evidence may have resulted from negligence rather than an attempt to obstruct justice." Collins said Snipes failed in one of her most important duties. "He was absolutely stonewalled by the supervisor of elections," Collins said of Canova. "When they were required to provide the records to us, they destroyed them."

Canova, who had planned a primary rematch against Wasserman Schultz this year, announced in April that he was leaving the Democratic Party. He is running in the race in November as a candidate with no party affiliation.

Original text at http://www.sun-sentinel.com/lo...-20180514-story.html

Now, isn't that just like the Clinton crew? You've got an election in the bag, man, and you still had to put the fix in!!! Snipes, of course, is cast in the same mold - did you notice how quickly she threw unnamed members of her staff under the bus?

My only worry these days is that Dankie's going to be forced into retirement (at least temporarily) in the massively publicized Democratic equivalent of an Aztec sun sacrifice, and peace will henceforth reign in the DNC until the 2020 elections heat up. I mean, shoot, I was looking forward to another primary contest in Broward County!
 
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Snipes called the action a "mistake" during testimony she gave in the case, saying the boxes were mislabeled and there was "nothing on my part that was intentional" about the destroying the contested ballots. "When I sign, I sign folders filled with information," Snipes said in her testimony, later adding: "I trust my staff. They have the responsibility of giving me information that's correct."



Nooo, regardless of who put the package together - YOU are still responsible for what you sign for hence the reason YOU need to sign it and not your staff.







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Snipes needs to lose her job and pension, then go to jail.




 
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Snipes needs to lose her job and pension, then go to jail.


If this doesn't happen, further Corruption of the electoral process will occur and faith in the vote will be lost. All that is left from there is Revolution.



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"Canova said he contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation twice in recent months prior to the judge's ruling because it appeared federal ballot retention requirements were violated, but he said he has received no response from the agency."

I guess they were busy doing something else Roll Eyes

BTW, isn't this the same county that has the screwed up Sheriff ?
 
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Geez, next thing you know people will start deleting emails that are needed for an investigation.


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As long as we conveniently allow people like this to escape without any consequence, this will not only continue, but escalate.


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It's not known if the judge's ruling would lead to any charges.



Anyone want to lay some money?!?!?!

I figure they will try to drag this out until those who are after the information will run out of money. And, no legal actions against them will take place. They are DEMOCRAPS! after all.

Do not GAS about her "excuses" and blaming her staff. In my world, the supervisor is responsible for all actions taken by subordinates!


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^^ Elk, FWIW the state of Florida and the Florida Governor's Office are involved, and Governor Scott is a Republican.

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BTW, isn't this the same county that has the screwed up Sheriff ?

Why, yes, yes it is. Parkland High School is in Broward County, Florida.
 
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As long as we conveniently allow people like this to escape without any consequence, this will not only continue, but escalate.


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Snipes needs to lose her job and pension, then go to jail.


If this doesn't happen, further Corruption of the electoral process will occur and faith in the vote will be lost. All that is left from there is Revolution.


I think that's the direction we are going.




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I am from Ft Lauderdale and during the 60s and 70s we probably had at least 100 people in Broward county between my mother's side and my father's side. You would think that number would go up! Right now we have four family members still there and all they talk about is leaving except for my 90 year old uncle. My female cousin down there is afraid to go to the grocery store by herself. That's dankie's kingdom!


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Until these government people start getting serious fines and/or jail time, they'll keep doing stuff like this and just say oops afterwords.
 
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Considering how far Dankie's gone to protect that Pakistani guy who ran a few scams, disappeared with government property (or the money for it) and nearly escaped after leaving behind a laptop full of stolen Congressional data, I think we still have room for hope.
 
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Breaking News:

Democrats rig an election!!! Eek

stay tuned for further developments.....


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I noted this in the article:

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... and the scanned copies of the ballots it can currently provide.. scanned copies of the ballots it can currently provide are "accurate and inherently reliable," she said. "It was a mistake [destroying the original ballots], but the ballots were preserved," Norris-Weeks said. "They were scanned shortly after the election."

It sounds like they have scanned copies, just not the originals. I completely understand the fact that they should've retained the copies for the 24 months required under statute, but they still have scans they can examine. Overblown, IMO.
 
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I noted this in the article:

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... and the scanned copies of the ballots it can currently provide.. scanned copies of the ballots it can currently provide are "accurate and inherently reliable," she said. "It was a mistake [destroying the original ballots], but the ballots were preserved," Norris-Weeks said. "They were scanned shortly after the election."

It sounds like they have scanned copies, just not the originals. I completely understand the fact that they should've retained the copies for the 24 months required under statute, but they still have scans they can examine. Overblown, IMO.


I am guessing you don't understand how easy one can doctor a photocopied/scanned image.

This all boils down to playing by the rules. They (Democrats), scream bloody murder if one of ours is found to be playing out of bounds, but if it's one of their own, it's all peaches-n-cream. Merely an oversight by one of their staffers or some other low level schlub who will likely not be prosecuted because they are small potatoes.

There may well have been no misconduct, but it is increasingly obvious that the only times lefties win is when they cheat. If there is to be a standard, we need to apply it across the board and prosecute those that thumb their noses at us. If we don't, our elections are no different than those for some third-world shithole. Look at some of the most recent "elections" in Venezuela, Honduras, Turkey, and Russia. On the outside, it may look legit, but deep down, you know they were crooked as fuck.


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It sounds like they have scanned copies, just not the originals. I completely understand the fact that they should've retained the copies for the 24 months required under statute, but they still have scans they can examine. Overblown, IMO.

I disagree. Real ballots exist in three dimensions where scanned copies only exist in two. If Bush 43 v. Gore proved nothing else, there is very definitely something valuable about being able to review the actual ballots if ballots ever physically existed.

BTW, it is generally wise to never say to a public servant that something is "good enough". All you'll get for the rest of their career is whatever they arbitrarily decide is "good enough".
 
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They can also CHOOSE which to scan or ignore.


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