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Literally insane. https://www.newsobserver.com/n...rticle213997664.html The Latest: California justices toss bullet stamping suit SAN FRANCISCO The Latest on a ruling by the California Supreme Court on a state bullet stamping law (all times local): 10:45 a.m. The California Supreme Court says state laws cannot be invalidated on the grounds that complying with them is impossible. The unanimous ruling on Thursday rejected a lawsuit by gun rights groups that sought to throw out a California law that requires new models of semi-automatic handguns to stamp identifying information on bullet casings. The groups argued that technology did not exist to meet the stamping requirements, and a law can't mandate something that's not possible. The court said impossibility can sometimes lead courts to excuse a failure to comply with a law. But it said it can't be the basis for invalidating a law. A call to a spokesman for one of the plaintiffs, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, was not immediately returned. ___ 11 p.m. The California Supreme Court will decide whether state laws can be challenged in court on the grounds that complying with them is impossible. The court will issue an opinion on that question Thursday in a lawsuit over a California law that requires new models of semi-automatic handguns to stamp identifying information on bullet casings. Supporters of the law signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2007 say it will help police solve gun crimes by allowing them to link bullet casings to guns. Gun manufacturers argue that the technology does not exist to meet the stamping requirements. They say a law can't mandate something that's not possible. Attorneys for the state say lawmakers often enact laws to force industries to innovate. They warned a ruling in favor of gun makers could take away that power. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | ||
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Well, obviously, they should have passed a law mandating that Solyndra be profitable. Wouldn't that have made it all good! Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. “If in winning a race, you lose the respect of your fellow competitors, then you have won nothing” - Paul Elvstrom "The Great Dane" 1928 - 2016 | |||
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34" Scale 5-String |
Wow! Just... WOW! California really IS a state of idiots!!! (No offense to those forum members who are stuck there and are unable to leave for reasons beyond your control!) Total insanity seems to prevail from that state every single time I read any news from the left coast... just wish the good guys could leave and the rest of it would fall off in the ocean and disappear! _____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama | |||
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I'm sure the forum members won't be offended by your assessment. Idiots, on the other hand, may be highly offended. Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. “If in winning a race, you lose the respect of your fellow competitors, then you have won nothing” - Paul Elvstrom "The Great Dane" 1928 - 2016 | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Just another example why I left CA. I'm sorry to say, it really amuses me when CA gun owners truly believe that CA can return to a red state again. That Trump will go out of his way to save them. Or that they can "educate" leftist Democrats to their way of thinking by taking them to the gun range. Like I said, amusing. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Reading that reminded me that it's been over a year since I've read Catch-22. Time to go dig out my old paperback again. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan "Once there was only dark. If you ask me, light is winning." ~Rust Cohle | |||
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Does this mean that leo will no longer be able to have auto loader firearms as the weapons can not be made? | |||
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Yes, leave the idiots out of this. CA has achieved an entirely different level of stupid many thought was not possible. | |||
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They should make it mandatory that all Californians must hold their breath for an hour straight per day to reduce green house gas emissions. Impossible, due to current human physical limitations? Too bad, the law IS the law. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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This idiotic law has been on the books for years. IIRC, it was not to become effective unless and until it was possible to comply. I believe there was some machine that was in development, working out the details. I also remember the threads about how stupid it was if it ever did become practical. Just pick up brass at various ranges and salt the crime scene of every shooting, or use a revolver, etc. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Dies Irae |
Newton's laws would seem to compel that, but California isn't complying. The good news is that their Supreme Court can't invalidate it. | |||
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Corgis Rock |
The courts ruling can mean laws that say: Pi can now be 3.14 with none of those non repeating digits. We can repeal the law of gravity. It’s “only” a law. California can have as much water as it needs. Without building dam or anything that disturbs the enviorment. “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
As someone raised here I am not offended at all by the truth. This not Reagan's California, sadly. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Duct tape can fix that problem. | |||
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I'm for a total ban on continental drift... hopefully CA will do it. | |||
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I just hope it is California tax dollars being wasted on these court cases. | |||
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Too clever by half |
Para's rooting for the comet. I'm rooting for the San Andreas Fault. "We have a system that increasingly taxes work, and increasingly subsidizes non-work" - Milton Friedman | |||
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| What is the soup du jour? |
They should require French Fries to be individually serialized. They do far more damage than bullets/cartridges. | |||
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| Coin Sniper |
Can someone please go shoot the San Andreas Fault with a 10mm and end this silliness? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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| Dances With Tornados |
Why not, they clearly ignore the laws of economics. | |||
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