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June 13, 2018, 03:07 PM
JALLEN
Glioblastoma
A hs classmate missed the picnic last month. He said doctors had discovered a couple of “masses on his brain.”

We now have the word that it is likely glioblastoma.

Isn’t this what Sen. McCain supposedly has?

What does the future hold? Cureable?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
June 13, 2018, 03:15 PM
Fenris
My understanding is that the outlook for glioblastoma is extremely bleak.




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June 13, 2018, 03:18 PM
Flashlightboy
It is 100% fatal and by the time it's discovered, typically like pancreatic cancer, the outcome is certain.

Ted Kennedy had the same thing as your classmate and McCain. I think the survival rate for 2 years from typical diagnosis is near zero. It's a nasty one.
June 13, 2018, 03:19 PM
ZSMICHAEL
All of the above are correct. Treatment is palliative only.
June 13, 2018, 03:28 PM
Graniteguy
My father had a Grade 4 Glio. Took him from perfect health to the grave in 10 months. (and that was after surgery, chemo and radiation). It was a very ugly 10-months.

There is no documented cure and no documented cases of survival outside of the trials being held at Duke Medical where a surgeon/professor is inserting deconstructed polio viruses directly into the tumor/mass and allowing the person's natural immune defenses to destroy the tumor in pursuit of the virus. Results thus far look promising.

To be honest - I should not have let my dad go through chemo or radiation given the already short prognosis for this type of cancer.
June 13, 2018, 04:47 PM
F_L
My father died from it in 2009. Terrible disease with a bleak outcome. There has been some progress in treatment that shows some promise.

My father also went through radiation and chemo. I think it made the end of his life worse.

Best wishes for your friend and family.
June 13, 2018, 05:23 PM
drtenb330
It is an unusually quick and final diagnosis. but, the University of Florida has had some luck with different protocols, and with a specific genotype. Take a look at the link, and some of the more recent articles:

https://braintumors.ufhealth.o...ries-cristina-matos/
June 13, 2018, 05:29 PM
Wetrudgeon
Our brother was diagnosed in late Sept 2017. Doctors told him it is terminal and patients generally have about 24-30 months. Brother is involved in an experimental treatment regimen that (they claim) has shown some promise. No illusions about the prognosis, however.

We trudge on.
June 13, 2018, 06:27 PM
barndg00
Duke University has been researching a protocol injecting modified polio virus into the tumors which was having some success as of a year or so ago, I’m not sure if the trial is still going on, but was only open to those who had failed standard therapy.
June 13, 2018, 07:04 PM
rduckwor
Not a good diagnosis to give or receive.

RMD




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June 13, 2018, 08:57 PM
Vanwall
My sister passed away recently from this. 20 months after diagnosis.
June 13, 2018, 11:07 PM
Dakor
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
There is no documented cases of survival outside of the trials being held at Duke Medical


Not quite accurate. Northwest Biotherapeutics, which has a pivotal study underway for its dendritic cell vaccine, has reported a few patients have survived 7 years+ and are in remission thus far (well beyond the norm survival point). Unfortunately, like many terminal illness indications, many that were enrolled in the Ph III study have passed away but median survival appears much improved. I used “appears” b/c the trial’s study design and mgmt could have been improved upon and it’s difficult to extrapolate whether other causative factors are responsible for that clinical endpoint’s value (which is still an interim one as the study continues to progress). The tech may not be a God-send but an interesting approach to address oncogenic drift. Its greatest chance of success may lie in combining it with a check point inhibitor.

Best wishes to your friend and I hope whatever care they seek is in some way beneficial.
June 14, 2018, 01:43 AM
KMitch200
Sorry to hear about your pal JAllen.

Friend of mine died either 5 or 7 years after diagnosis w/GBM. There were a few years there where the docs told him after followup MRIs that "you can tell you brain surgery but not why". Sadly, it became obvious again why.
Number of years are better if in your 30's rather than your 60s but still screwed just the same.
The last year was terrible.

The Duke experiment will be a Godsend if they can work it out.


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June 14, 2018, 07:49 AM
sidss1
JALLEN- Glioblastoma Multiformae is one nasty form of cancer. I will pray for your classmate.
Having said that, I am a survivor of Stage 4 Glioblastoma. I was destined to die, and the specialists at the Univ of Michigan Medical Ctr., had done the paperwork transferring me to the local Hospice, where I was supposed to die in a month's time or so. But, 2 of the junior Doctors in the Oncology Dept and the Neurosurgery Dept decided to try out a then new( it was in 2000), cancer drug. The chemotherapy was really rough, but after 18 infusions, I began to recover. My cancer is in remission, and I have developed a second, benign brain tumor, but, it looks like I am free of the brain cancer.

None the less, JALLEN, your friend is in my prayers.


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June 18, 2018, 01:36 AM
SigSAC
Just saw a story about a new treatment study for this disease.

https://www.northwell.edu/abou...ent-stays-ahead-tech

This isn't the story I saw on local TV (couldn't find it), but it is the same patient.

Figured it might open an avenue of research for anyone here going through it. Anything that can give someone more life is worth investigating.

(Writing this on the anniversary of the death of my own mother - she did not, however, go of cancer)
June 18, 2018, 08:18 AM
JALLEN
Thanks. I sent it to my buddy. He’s retired Army.

I have no idea what kind of care he might be getting.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
June 28, 2018, 07:11 PM
sjtill
Here's an article on a different new treatment for glioblastoma: poliovirus.

Link: Scientific American: Poliovirus for glioblastoma


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June 28, 2018, 07:56 PM
JALLEN
The lab work came back Stage 4 glioblastoma.

Thanks, doc. I’ll send the new article.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
July 21, 2018, 10:02 AM
JALLEN
I just got off the phone with our social director who told me she had gotten the call from the new widow that my classmate has died.

Sure is fast. I believe he first noticed symptoms in February.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
July 21, 2018, 10:30 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
Sorry to hear of your classmate's death, JALLEN.