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Authorities test fire guns in girls' slayings

WELEETKA — More than three dozen guns from the Weleetka area were test fired over the weekend as authorities worked to narrow their leads into the June 8 slayings of two girls north of town.

Jessica Brown, spokeswoman for the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, said some 60 letters were sent out to registered owners of .40-caliber handguns, asking them to voluntarily submit their weapons for testing on Saturday and Sunday at the Okfuskee County Courthouse at Okemah.

Brown said 40 of those owners showed up with their guns, which were fired outside the courthouse.

She said about five owners contacted the OSBI to say they no longer owned the weapons, although they did provide the names of the new owners.

“We’ll be checking on them,” Brown said, as well as the 15 or so registered gun owners who did not show up for the test firings.

The fact that the OSBI is looking for a .40-cailber handgun is the newest revelation into the murders of Skyla Jade Whitaker, 11, and Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13.

Both were shot several times and left for dead on County Line Road, about four miles northeast of Weleetka.

Two guns were used in the killings, though authorities never would identify the caliber used until now.

Brown would not identify the other caliber of bullet which was used in the slayings.

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asking them to voluntarily submit

Not so voluntary when asked, is it?

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asking them to voluntarily submit

Not so voluntary when asked, is it?

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“We’ll be checking on them,” Brown said, as well as the 15 or so registered gun owners who did not show up for the test firings.

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so tell me again that no one has a database of gun owners...

want to test a gun

get a warrant with a specific serial number on it, otherwise go pound sand

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so tell me again that no one has a database of gun owners...

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get a warrant with a specific serial number on it, otherwise go pound sand

I'm with you here nhtag, unless they have a reason to be checking MY gun for something, then nope, it ain't happenin. I can't see how or why anyone would volunteer for that, short of just not thinking about it much.

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I agree, there's no way I'd be coerced into allowing them to inspect my weapon(s) without a warrant.

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While a Federal gun registry isn't allowed (supposedly, anyway), many states in fact have them. While it is certainly possible, the odds are that the shooter is not a registered gun owner.

There's no way I'm voluntarily turning over a gun for testing; warrant required, thank you.

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This is wrong for a few reasons.

No one is going to submit their gun if they used it in a crime or think it was used. Come on what a waste of time and money. This is because they have no good leads and want to look like they are doing something but instead they are wasting resources.

What happens with the test data. If the gun is found to have not been used where does the data go.

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Hey! We don't have "gun registration" here in Oklahoma. This is just some more "creative reporting". Tell it like it is.

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Hey! We don't have "gun registration" here in Oklahoma. This is just some more "creative reporting". Tell it like it is.

Once the state determines the make of the gun, the manufacturer can tell the state which distributors got those guns. Then the distributors can tell the state which stores got the guns. Then the stores can check their records and tell the state which buyers bought those guns.

Or am I missing something?

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Not good. I don't care if it was for my Mother's sake. Not good.

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This actually may be worse than just talking to LE during an investigation.

Guess that the 40 that showed up never watched that video... NEVER speak with the police.

No offense to officers - just not gonna do it.

Could you imagine if a casing or crumpled bullet sort of matched? Talk about getting strung up...

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so tell me again that no one has a database of gun owners...

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get a warrant with a specific serial number on it, otherwise go pound sand

DING DING DING, We have a winner. My thoughts, exactly.

Get a freakin warrant, or pound sand.

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This is wrong for a few reasons.

No one is going to submit their gun if they used it in a crime or think it was used. Come on what a waste of time and money. This is because they have no good leads and want to look like they are doing something but instead they are wasting resources.

What happens with the test data. If the gun is found to have not been used where does the data go.

The data goes into that big data file in the sky. You know, the one they keep saying does not exist, and then are able to point out names and addresses from that non-existent file.

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this is definitely stoopid. the reason have already been enumerated. these 'volunteers' are just lining themselves up to be chosen for blame when the trail to the real killers goes cold, as it seems it might have already.

and you guys are right, the whole 'voluntary' thing... BULLSHIT. 'checking up on them' means that they are now serious suspects, simply for owning .40 cal handguns and choosing to stand by their Constitutional Rights.

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What happens with the test data. If the gun is found to have not been used where does the data go.

Sounds like the DNA crap they did here when we had the Baton Rouge serial killer. They were taking DNA samples from all these white males. The serial killer turned out to be black.

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and that warrant better call out specific manufacturer and model before I open my safe.

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.40SW? What .40SW? Don't have any guns - they are dangerous and scarey.

That safe? It's full of all my old Beeny Babies. No, I don't have the combo - forgot it. . .

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