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2: square, and whatever is called how one ties shoes.

flashguy

Hopefully, the same thing, because if you're tying a granny, it won't be nearly as stable as a square knot. I quite enjoy showing adults a better way to tie their shoes.


Thanks for that. I never considered using a square instead of a granny.
 
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Whatever you call the knot to tie my shoes. That's it.
A square knot (or granny) on two bites.



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I like knots. A search and rescue instructor said, "A rope only gets interesting when you tie a knot".

I routinely use a bowline, figure eight, and square knots. I also use hitches: clove, half and timberline. For securing a load I use a diamond hitch.

I've been taught, but seldom use, prussiks and fisherman knots.

I was in Alaska and my landlord starting showing me knots (he'd been in the merchant marine). Monkey fists were cool but I was really impressed when he could cast a line and tie a bowline around a post in what seemed like 1/2 a second.


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Whatever you call the knot to tie my shoes. That's it.
A square knot (or granny) on two bites.


Bights?
 
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Rite you are. Big Grin



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2: square, and whatever is called how one ties shoes.

flashguy

Hopefully, the same thing, because if you're tying a granny, it won't be nearly as stable as a square knot. I quite enjoy showing adults a better way to tie their shoes.
I believe my shoelace knots are square, but isn't there a different name for the ones that can be pulled open?

flashguy




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It’s interesting that knots are possible only in 3-dimensional space. In 2-dimensional space there’s not enough freedom for knots. In 4-dimensional space (and higher), there’s so much freedom that knots won’t remain tied. Topology 101.



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Use frequently? Pretty much bowline, though when tarping hay or securing a load I use a trucker’s hutch. Well once in a while a double halfhitch.
Knots I know but rarely use? Square knot, clove hitch (western saddle conch knot), whatever you call the quick release slip knot we used to use to tie horses up before I learned the bowline.

A square knot is the strongest way to tied two ropes together (stronger than two bowlines because it spreads the load instead of concentrating it), but good luck getting one apart after it is pulled on. I jut rarely need to tie two ropes together end to end like that.
 
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Square, Slip, sometimes a clove hitch.

I have forgotten most of them since I got my Pioneering Merit Badge.
 
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I don't know about Android, but the Apple App store has a GREAT knot app.

Knots 3d

You will be happy you found it. A ton of fun.

Cubmaster, Eagle Scout here. Aside from the old bow knot, I use the tautline most frequently.




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2: square, and whatever is called how one ties shoes.

flashguy

Hopefully, the same thing, because if you're tying a granny, it won't be nearly as stable as a square knot. I quite enjoy showing adults a better way to tie their shoes.
I believe my shoelace knots are square, but isn't there a different name for the ones that can be pulled open?

flashguy

You're tying a square knot if you crossed the second time opposite the first time (left over right—right over left). The bunny ears ("bights") just make the square knot slipped.



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The definitive resource for the bowline: http://www.paci.com.au/knots.php

Your basic bowline is NOT stable for climbing. My favorite variations, which are stable, are the EBSB and Lee's Link versions. If you like the Zeppelin bend, you'll like the Lee's Link Bowline. Gommers' analysis is for the true knot nerd.



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Use frequently? Pretty much bowline, though when tarping hay or securing a load I use a trucker’s hutch. Well once in a while a double halfhitch.
Knots I know but rarely use? Square knot, clove hitch (western saddle conch knot), whatever you call the quick release slip knot we used to use to tie horses up before I learned the bowline.

A square knot is the strongest way to tied two ropes together (stronger than two bowlines because it spreads the load instead of concentrating it), but good luck getting one apart after it is pulled on. I jut rarely need to tie two ropes together end to end like that.

A square knot is not the best bend, and untying a knot is part of the criteria used in evaluating a knot.



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You're tying a square knot if you crossed the second time opposite the first time (left over right—right over left). The bunny ears ("bights") just make the square knot slipped.


You said that better than I could.




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(western saddle conch knot),

What does this mean?


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Half hitches, clove hitch, tautline hitch, square knot, blood knot and a couple others including the good old standby knife knot. (So secure it can only be untied with a knife)
 
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(western saddle conch knot),

What does this mean?


I think he is referring to this:



clove hitch on the saddle horn.
 
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Chance: Is that 1 of your horses? Beautiful creature.

My horse just died a couple of months ago. 1st full size horse my parents let me raise, train, & show. Had her since a baby & she was over 30 years old. She allowed me to learn many knots, but I never remember the actual names of the knots.
 
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Chance: Is that 1 of your horses? Beautiful creature.

My horse just died a couple of months ago. 1st full size horse my parents let me raise, train, & show. Had her since a baby & she was over 30 years old. She allowed me to learn many knots, but I never remember the actual names of the knots.


No I just googled the rig. Really sorry to hear about your horse. 30 is a really good age. I have lost 3 over the years. It is never easy.

Here is a pic of me and one of mine - his barn name is Bohdi



Sorry, no knots in the picture. Smile
 
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All of em.


CaptainMike, that gave me a chuckle. I also do NOT question your veracity.

I assumed the Sailors, Scouts, and fisherman would be well versed in their knots. I had forgotten about our resident farmers, horsemen, and climbers.

You all have reminded me of several knots I haven't practiced in some time. I had fun playing with a Prusik and Alpine butterfly.

Thanks for all the comments. I'm enjoying this.


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