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Baroque Bloke
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My appetite has always guided my food choices. In recent times, the NIH has come around to some of my views, finding that cholesterol in food has little relationship to blood cholesterol. And butter is again in favor. And this article suggests that my liking for salt is OK too:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea...-says-scientist.html

The NIH still warns against red meat, but I eat it anyway. OTOH, it seems indisputable that more calories mean more weight gain.



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Cholesterol has little to do with food and more on genetics and health. I recently lost a lot of weight to reduce diabetes risk and triglycerides. I did mostly high fat lower carb and avoided refined sugars. With the high fat diet I now have a total cholesterol of 150 with the good cholesterol being 66 and triglycerides at 70.



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Posts: 2034 | Location: Liberty, MO | Registered: November 28, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Interesting. I wonder how this will turn out.

I prefer salt to sugar, and the article says that sugar is a problem. I can cut down on sugar.



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I believe it ultimately comes down to genetics.

Just be active.

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Long ago I did extensive research on 'eating behavior' to learn about my own diabetes & related dietary excesses.

One of the most informative information trails I followed, was some studies done in the late 90s. At this point I have forgotten the research group, but their comments have remained.

Their conclusion was the major difference between 'most' obese people and those of normal weight, is Not A Secret.

Disease/dysfunction aside, a major observation was that normal/skinny people STOP eating when they are no longer hungry.

Obese people as a group, don't. Often they consume 2 or 3 times the amount of any given food, regardless of hunger & satiety.


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Let me clarify upon my own experience.

I now eat little sugars, mostly veggies and protein. I don't eat shit. I was brought up eating the fat on our store bought steaks. I still do.

Growing up I ate all the crap kids eat. McDonald's, etc...luckily, my parents afforded me all sorts of tastes....therefore, my diet is varied.

I work out a ton...triathlons, bodybuilding, cross fit....you name it.

On the other hand my dad, came off the boat from the Ukraine, smoked 3 packs a day starting at 13, worked his face off and eats shit....for an 80 year old, he's good to go.

I'll probably die when I'm 40. It's genetic...but, eat well, move, and train your brain.
 
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I saw a fairly large scale long term study done in Europe a couple years ago. Didn't save a link, but it followed people who had already been diagnosed and treated for heart disease.

Half were put on a typical low salt diet.
Half were allowed to consume as much salt as they preferred.

The low salt group had a higher death rate.



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I've been a Butter Only person since I was a teenager in the late 60's. Because to me Margarine has ALWAYS smelled like rancid butter.

I've also always like a bit of salt on my food. However due to the calories in items like potato chips I have cut way back on salty snacks.

As for red meat, with Heart Disease a near certainty in my family history I only allow myself to have red meat about 1 meal per month, for all my other meals it's either chicken, turkey, or fish. BTW, there is an outfit called Man Cave Meats and they have a frozen ground turkey, cheese, and jalapeno patty that is incredibly tasty, especially right off a grill.


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Heartbeats theory: When you are born, your heartbeats are written in The Book. Use them wisely.



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I think it depends on the type of salt. The processed table salt probably isn't beneficial, but sea salt and Himalayan salt are.




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My wife has cooked with less salt over the years and, now, I can pick up the average salty food.

I don't think salt is bad overall but modern processed food uses a lot of it to induce "taste" in their otherwise tasteless offerings.

Used sparingly, I think salt makes bland food taste sweet.



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Heartbeats theory: When you are born, your heartbeats are written in The Book. Use them wisely.


So wouldn't that mean you would be better off being a still and calm as possible so as to never raise your heart rate? Someone running for an hour with a bpm of 140 will use up twice as many beats as the person sitting on the couch with a heart rate of 70.
 
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Originally posted by brecaidra:
I think it depends on the type of salt. The processed table salt probably isn't beneficial, but sea salt and Himalayan salt are.
The trace amount of iodine in table salt is beneficial as iodine deficiency can have serious consequences, causing abnormal neuronal development, mental retardation, congenital abnormalities, spontaneous abortion and miscarriage, congenital hypothyroidism, and infertility.

Like everything, salt is beneficial in moderation.



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More and more the worst thing is turning out to be sugar and ultra processed foods. I really think that is the true evil as far as food goes and lately my body has been telling me so.

I've cut it out of my diet anywhere I can and I no longer get headaches or those horrible dips and spikes in energy and I feel sharper mentally.


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More and more the worst thing is turning out to be sugar and ultra processed foods.
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I'm good with that, provided that you don't consider Spam to be ultra processed food. Smile



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Originally posted by Doc H.:
Heartbeats theory: When you are born, your heartbeats are written in The Book. Use them wisely.


So wouldn't that mean you would be better off being a still and calm as possible so as to never raise your heart rate? Someone running for an hour with a bpm of 140 will use up twice as many beats as the person sitting on the couch with a heart rate of 70.


Why, yes.



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According to climate nazis once science is settled it never changes! Roll Eyes

Moderation is key. Eat 5 pounds of red meat a day and it will be a problem. Having a steak in moderation is not a problem. Same with salt, cake or any other food.



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I've never bought this business of salt causing high blood pressure all by itself in otherwise healthy people, or that any and all salt is bad. In fact, it's a necessary nutrient that you can die without.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
According to climate nazis once science is settled it never changes!

How many times have the scientists done a 180° on butter, the cholesterol in eggs, and now salt?
 
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