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Copy of plea at link.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/3...g-to-fbi-agents.html

Ex-Trump advisor George Papadopolous pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents

An early advisor to President Donald Trump's campaign pleaded guilty on October 5th to making false statements to FBI agents, according to court filings released Monday.

The U.S. alleges that George Papadopolous made contact with foreign nationals tied to the Russian government and subsequently lied to federal agents about those meetings.

According to the documents, Papadopolous met with a female Russian national in March 2016. This woman was allegedly introduced to Papadapolous, then foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign, as a relative of Russian President Vladimir Putin with ties to senior Kremlin officials.

The filings also say that Papadopolous is cooperating with the U.S. government in its ongoing investigation of Russian attempts to interfere in the 2016 election.

Plea also here:
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007341/download


They charged him to get him to snitch:



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The next thing is to sit down with these two and their attorneys and see if they can remember anything that would give investigators something to look into about potentially criminal activity of others, enough to justify the prosecutor to recommend and agree to some bit of leniency.

It looks like they have these guys dead to rights, doesn’t it?

Maybe. No telling what details the devil is in, what exceptions which for one guy are another guy’s loophole. Really good lawyers armed with large budgets can fine tooth comb this stuff and make it sound completely different. Deputy Prosecutor Andrew Weissman led the Enron investigation. Lots of indictments, quite a few convictions, but almost all were set aside eventually, mostly due to heavy-handedness and over zealousness.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Remember that President Trump had great trouble in finding good people to help his campaign.

The other 16 or so REP candidates had tied up the experienced campaign staffers. Anyone who signed up with Donald Trump became excommunicated from the REP establishment.
 
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Remember that President Trump had great trouble in finding good people to help his campaign.

The other 16 or so REP candidates had tied up the experienced campaign staffers. Anyone who signed up with Donald Trump became excommunicated from the REP establishment.


Not only that, who wants to work for a sure loser? Big Grin Big Grin




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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regarding George Papadopoulos:

pleaded guilty on Oct. 5 to one count of lying to FBI agents about the nature of his interactions with “foreign nationals” who he thought had close connections to senior Russian government officials. The plea was unsealed Monday.

Papadopoulos was a member of the campaign’s foreign policy team. But Trump aides have said he played a limited role in the campaign and no access to Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/...ty-in-mueller-probe/
 
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I expect the Podesta brothers to be indicted.



Mueller's team is ALL fellow Obama and Clinton Democrats, why would he do anything of the sort?


 
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Shouldn't Mueller and company have had a bigger splash that this?
It's looks a bit pathetic from here.

Where is the collusion we were promised.
Did I miss it?

Just watch, Mueller will go after Democrats, he has to CYA his role in Uranium One.


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Agreed. If you hang with the creative types in DC, sooner or later you'll have to choose between them and survival.
 
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I expect the Podesta brothers to be indicted.



Mueller's team is ALL fellow Obama and Clinton Democrats, why would he do anything of the sort?


To save his ass.

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Shouldn't Mueller and company have had a bigger splash that this?
It's looks a bit pathetic from here.

Where is the collusion we were promised.
Did I miss it?



What went down today is NOT EVEN IN THE SCOPE of his investigation as we all can plainly see.


 
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quote:
Originally posted by lbj:
Shouldn't Mueller and company have had a bigger splash that this?
It's looks a bit pathetic from here.

Where is the collusion we were promised.
Did I miss it?



What went down today is NOT EVEN IN THE SCOPE of his investigation as we all can plainly see.


Well, he's got an extremely wide scope which we knew, but watch as his excuse for not going after the Podestas is, wait for it...not in the scope of his investigation!


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Interesting how Tony Podesta resigns from The Podesta Group as of this morning during a company-wide meeting.
 
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wow. that is interesting

https://www.politico.com/story...mueller-probe-244314

Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Podesta announced his decision during a firm-wide meeting Monday morning and is alerting clients of his impending departure.

Podesta is handing over full operational and financial control to longtime firm CEO Kimberley Fritts, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the meeting. Fritts and a senior group of the Podesta team will be launching a new firm in the next one or two days. Sources said the transition has been in the works for the past several months.

“[Tony] was very magnanimous and said, “This is an amazing group of people,” a source said of Podesta’s remarks. Podesta also told staff he “doesn’t intend to go quietly, or learn how to play golf.” He said he “needs to fight this as an individual, but doesn’t want the firm to fight it.”

The investigation into Podesta and his firm grew out of investigators’ examination of Manafort’s finances . Manafort organized a PR campaign on behalf of a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. Podesta Group was one of several firms that were paid to do work on the PR campaign to promote Ukraine in the U.S.

Podesta Group filed paperwork with the Justice Department in April stating that it had done work for the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine that also benefited the same Ukrainian political party that Manafort once advised. Podesta Group said at the time it believed its client was a European think tank untethered to a political party.

Podesta has long been a larger than life figure on K Street, growing his business from a boutique firm into a massive lobbying and public relations operation. He is well known for his flashy dressing, vast art collection, generous campaign donations across all levels of Democratic politics and, of course, for his brother John Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman.

Podesta Group has struggled in the wake of the Mueller investigation. More than a dozen of its lobbying clients have cut ties with the firm this year, according to lobbying filings. Revenues have also declined: The firm brought in an estimated $4.8 million in the third quarter of 2017, down from $5.2 million in the second quarter of 2017 and from $6.1 million in the third quarter of 2016.
 
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Podesta Group said at the time it believed its client was a European think tank untethered to a political party.
Is there such a thing? Asking seriously...


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Milo Yiannopoulos held a press conference in Washington DC today. While in the metropolis, Yiannopoulos claimed Papadopoulos watches Snuffleupagus with Stephanopoulos.
 
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It all sounds Greek to me...

But I know I do not trust the GDCs and hope the bunny trail leads right to their evil lair.




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He probably has some great suits.... and after all that laundering... I bet they are really clean:

Paul Manafort Allegedly Laundered $75 Million In Russian Money. Here's How.

According to the FBI indictment, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort made a pretty penny handling public relations for Putin-allied forces in the Ukraine. Between Manafort and his associate Richard Gates, their work generated tens of million in extra income, which Manafort used, in part, to trick out his wardrobe.

Unfortunately, the U.S. government frowns on doing business with foreign entities, particularly those its not friendly with, and, according to the FBI's timeline of events, Manafort and Grant had to do something with all that cash to avoid reporting it to the Feds.

For the most part, Manafort and Grant allegedly ran the money through offshore banks and accounts. Manafort reportedly funneled around $75 million into his personal coffers this way, using cash from his foreign accounts to purchase domestic real estate, then getting loans against those same properties.

He could then spend the cash, but the U.S. government, for at least a while, had no idea where the cash was coming from. He also never reported or paid taxes on any of that income, to add trouble on top of trouble.

Like Walter White in Breaking Bad, Manafort and Grant apparently suffered from a surplus of cash. Unable to report it or invest it, Manafort, at least, spent it on some pretty fancy things.

According to the FBI charging documents, Manafort had a great time spending some of the ill-gotten gains.

The former Trump official paid a "Home Automation, Lighting and Home Entertainment Company" $1,319,218 over the course of two years, apparently to add a top-notch home theater to one of his many multi-million dollar residences.

Obviously needing to make sure his rooms were pulled together, Manafort dropped another $934,350 at an Antique Rug Store in Alexandria, Virginia. He paid another vendor, related to the rug shop, $100,000, possibly for cleaning or alterations.

Manafort also, apparently, had a taste for designer duds. According to the indictment, he wired $849,215 to a men's clothing store in New York City over the course of six years — enough for several high-end wardrobes — and $520,440 to a clothing store in Beverly Hills, California, over the course of four years. The revelations are shocking not just because it seems impossible to spend that much money, but because Manafort never looked all that pulled together on the campaign trail.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/...illion-emily-zanotti



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http://www.nationalreview.com/...ump-russia-collusion

an article by Andrew McCarthy

short summary: the charges against Manafort may be hard to prove

"Even from Paul Manafort’s perspective, there may be less to this indictment than meets the eye — it’s not so much a serious allegation of “conspiracy against the United States” as a dubious case of disclosure violations and money movement that would never have been brought had he not drawn attention to himself by temporarily joining the Trump campaign."
 
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a more clear description of the Podesta link

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10...manafort-indictment/

From 2006 to 2014 , Manafort and Richard Gates “engaged in a multi-million dollar lobbying campaign in the United States at the direction of [former Ukrainian President Victor] Yanukovych, the Party of Regions, and the government of Ukraine,” according to the indictment.

The Party of Regions is a pro-Russia Ukrainian political party whose leader, Yanukovych, served as president from 2010 to 2014.

Manafort and Gates chose two companies, identified as Company A and Company B in the indictment, to lobby on behalf of the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a European nonprofit that officials say was created as a mouthpiece for the Party of Regions.

Previous news reports have indicated that the two companies are the Podesta Group and Mercury LLC.

The two companies were aware that they were lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainian government and worked with Manafort to conceal their foreign lobbying activities from the public, according to the indictment.

“Manafort repeatedly communicated in person and in writing with Yanukovych, and Gates passed on directions to Company A and Company B,” the indictment states.

“At the direction of Manafort and Gates, Company A and Company B engaged in extensive lobbying,”

The two companies received payments “solely through off-shore accounts associated with the Manafort-Gates entities,” according to the indictment.

The Podesta Group retroactively filed lobbying disclosures in April admitting their previously hidden Ukrainian lobbying activities.
 
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The charges are all about things Manafort did years ago, before the campaign...Mueller indicts Manafort for events from 2008-2013.

Why didn't the FBI go after Manafort previously?
...


Good question. Was there no FBI or federal prosecutors during that period? Why now and under the special prosecutor???

If there's a link to John Podesta, why not charge him today as well?
 
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