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If Manafort goes down, Trump has the perfect answer to anything the Dems say, “I agree, that’s why I fired him.”




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They still are trying to convince people that the Russians conned 64 million into voting for Trump.


I voted for Trump and I had some small hope that he would do some of the many good things he has. However, I would have voted for Jimmy the fricking dog catcher if he were the nominee opposing that horrible, venal, evil shrew of an excuse for a person. The Democrats to a howitzer to their own foot when the nominated that person.


I would have voted for one of the poo throwing monkeys at the Detroit Zoo if he had run against HRC.
 
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At the end of the day tomorrow. If all Mueller has on Manafort is the suspicious wire transfers from 2012 - 2013 and a single e-mail that was previously reported by the Washington Post. We will know for certain that the timing was a diversion for Uranium One.



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At the end of the day tomorrow. If all Mueller has on Manafort is the suspicious wire transfers from 2012 - 2013 and a single e-mail that was previously reported by the Washington Post. We will know for certain that the timing was a diversion for Uranium One.


Yup. And our small hope that Mueller might actually be a fair investigator will be dashed.


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At the end of the day tomorrow. If all Mueller has on Manafort is the suspicious wire transfers from 2012 - 2013 and a single e-mail that was previously reported by the Washington Post. We will know for certain that the timing was a diversion for Uranium One.


There's no doubt in my mind that that is the reason for the announcement. Timing is everything as they say.
 
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Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort surrenders to FBI

WASHINGTON (CNN) • Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is turning himself in Monday to Justice Department special counsel ....

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, have been indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiracy against the United States and other felony charges.

The indictments unsealed Monday in Washington contain 12 counts, including conspiracy to launder money, failing to register as a foreign agent, false statements, and multiple counts of failing to file reports for foreign bank accounts.

Manafort, of Alexandria, Virginia, and Gates, of Richmond, Virginia, both turned themselves in to the FBI on Monday.


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Just as I thought, Mueller is going after only people associated with Trump and all you guys hoping he would prove he was a “straight shooter” can keep on dreaming.

“Straight shooters” DO NOT create diversions away from Hillary like he did. “Straight shooters” DO NOT pack their team with ONLY Hillary and Obama people.


 
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The real collusion is between Mueller and whoever likely called him last week and asked him to speed up anything he has to deflect from this Obama/Hillary uranium story.
 
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The charges are all about things Manafort did years ago, before the campaign. These are the things that led President Trump to drop Manafort.

After all this talk for well over a year about Russia collusion, and Mueller indicts Manafort for events from 2008-2013.

Why didn't the FBI go after Manafort previously ?

indictment:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download
 
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So what comes next? Is the investigation still ongoing? Can we expect more indictments down the road?

No question this is a distraction from the Uranium One news. It's obvious and very disheartening.


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The investigation will continue for as long as Trump is president. It gives the left something to talk about. They are not interested in justice, just payback for their loss.

If all Mueller's team can come up with is charges for actions years ago, it needs to be stopped. The good thing is for those years in question Manafort also seemed to have ties to the left. Hopefully he spills his guts.
 
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Really! This all they've got?!?!? Conspiracy to scam people? Jeezus Christmas...then the Clintonshites should be UNDER the jail at this point, said Captain Obvious.

I'm quickly losing faith in this circus called the "justice" system, as there is no justice if you don't have millions in the bank.

Look! Shiny red ball! GMAFB...... Eek



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I'm not a lawyer and don't know a thing about law...but in trying to wade through the indictment listed by the link....it looks like income tax evasion charge....

I wonder if the aim is to get these guys to plea bargain a witness deal ??
 
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It's all a cover for Uranium One....

The Manafort Political Theater Project launched

Some absurd MSM political theater is about to unfold, as if it were a serious scandal for Trump that a guy who was his campaign chairman for a few months is going to be charged for alleged crimes committed years before that relationship was forged. Paul Manafort and his longtime protégé are the big news for the MSM to inflate into a conspiracy that traces back to the puppet master in the Kremlin. They have been told to report for arrest, which means they are to be indicted.

Matt Apuzzo of the New York Times got the scoop. He describes Gates as:

... a longtime protégé and junior partner of Mr. Manafort. His name appears on documents linked to companies that Mr. Manafort's firm set up in Cyprus to receive payments from politicians and businesspeople in Eastern Europe, records reviewed by The New York Times show. ...

Mr. Manafort had been under investigation for violations of federal tax law, money laundering and whether he appropriately disclosed his foreign lobbying.

The alleged offenses lie far in the past:

Mr. Manafort, a veteran Republican strategist, joined the Trump campaign in March 2016 to help keep delegates from breaking with Mr. Trump in favor of establishment Republican candidates. Mr. Trump soon promoted him to chairman and chief strategist, a job that gave him control over day-to-day operations of the campaign.

But Mr. Trump fired Mr. Manafort just months later, after reports that he received more than $12 million in undisclosed payments from Viktor F. Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president and a pro-Russia politician. Mr. Manafort spent years as a political consultant for Mr. Yanukovych.

Amber Phillips of the Washington Post puts the dates and context around those years he spent as a consultant:

In 2005, Manafort got a job advising a Ukrainian steel magnate, one of the richest men in that country, on how to improve his business empire's public image. The job helped revive Manafort's political career and shore up his struggling finances[.] ...

And here's where Manafort's ties to pro-Russian politics really begins: His billionaire client was a supporter of Viktor Yanukovych, the prime minister of Ukraine and an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Yanukovych, too, had an image problem. He had just lost a nasty presidential election fight that was fraught with allegations of fraud, the poisoning of the pro-Western opposition leader, a court ruling invalidating Yanukovych's win, and widespread, violent protests that became known as the Orange Revolution. ...

Yanukovych had relied on Russian advisers for that disastrous election, and decided to turn to an American for a makeover (though PolitiFact reports that Manafort had actually unofficially counseled Yanukovych during that 2004 election).

Manafort officially worked as a political consultant for Ukraine's ruling party from circa 2006-07 to 2012.

The theory under which prosecutors work, of course, is to squeeze the little guy with the threat of prison and get him to implicate the higher-ups. But for that strategy to work for Mueller on Manafort, there have to be facts to reveal. So far, despite extensive private and prosecutorial research for over a year, there are no facts.

It's all a cover for Uranium One, and for a while, it is a pretty good one. Meanwhile, the investigations will continue and evidence accumulated for a Justice Department to prosecute, under an attorney general who should be so inclined. If not, Jeff Sessions will not survive the blowback and will be replaced.

Tough luck for Manafort and Gates. I have no idea if they are guilty, but they are in for an expensive defense no matter what. If you believe that Trump must be guilty of dirty business, then Manafort is going to be the mother lode. So the excitement will be genuine today among the MSM talking heads and in the newsrooms. And it will last for a while.

http://www.americanthinker.com..._to_be_indicted.html


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So what comes next? Is the investigation still ongoing? Can we expect more indictments down the road?

No question this is a distraction from the Uranium One news. It's obvious and very disheartening.


I expect the Podesta brothers to be indicted.

If not, I expect Trump to fire Mueller, biased bastard that he is. Then the shit storm will really crank up.

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big ol nothing burger against trump



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Interesting timing. I think Special council needs to investigate Muller.
 
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