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Originally posted by tuumunz:
Porter, there is an lgs about 45 minutes south of us that was raided the same day last week. The first run through the books found 200 missing guns.

After spending the day, the owner and atf agents ended up with 75 guns that are missing. The store is closed permanently. ATF took the fl (FFL?) license with them. That could be due to poor paperwork or poor background forms being processed correctly.

I do know the gun stores in this state are going to have to triple check every form or they will get a visit. And if the store is an older store, with years and years of transactions, I guarantee the atf will find errors.

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Originally posted by Dreamerx4:
I am an FFL in Berryville Virginia.

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Originally posted by Dreamerx4:
I am an FFL in Berryville Virginia.
I have to say without exception, every ATF agent, or contractor working for them I have dealt with, have been a pleasure to deal with.
If you are doing the paperwork, doing your job, they are great at helping.
If you are telling me a LGS had 70+ missing guns, then that is a serious problem, and they are obviously not doing what they are licensed to do. I would certainly hope the license would be pulled.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by Dreamerx4:
I am an FFL in Berryville Virginia.

Hey - Good to see you here again!

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Originally posted by LDD:
What four stores are we talking about? Store names?

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At least nine agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms served a warrant Thursday morning at Albany Guns and Coins and Jewelry at 1225 Pacific Blvd. S.E. The agents were reported to be seizing guns and files at the business. North Albany resident Nick Russell is the registered owner.

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A Salem businessman pleaded not guilty Monday to selling firearms without a license and illegally possessing a Sten MK II submachine gun.

Andrew Nordstrom, the 41-year-old owner of Salem Emblems, a business that sells T shirts and letterman jackets, appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan in Portland. She set his trial date for Oct. 6.

Agents of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives searched Nordstrom's home and business last November after a long-term investigation in which they made repeated undercover gun purchases. Their aim was to keep illegal firearms out of the hands of criminals, according to Douglas R. Dawson, special agent in charge of the ATF's Seattle Field Division.

"We hope that the citizens of Oregon understand that we will seek out those who are selling firearms without an appropriate federal firearms license and recommend for prosecution those who decide to make our communities unsafe," Dawson told The Oregonian/Oregonlive in a written statement.

Nordstrom's troubles began in early 2013, when a man walked into Blackwater Tactical, a Salem gun store, to buy his dad a handgun as a gift, according to a federal search warrant affidavit signed by Michael C. McNall, a veteran ATF Agent.

The man spoke to a salesman behind the counter about buying a Beretta .22-caliber pistol. The salesman explained that the weapon, on consignment, belonged to a man at the store next door. He walked off to retrieve him.

The pistol's owner soon appeared, negotiated a price with the purchaser, and said, "I will just sell it to you in the parking lot," according to the affidavit. The buyer paid $325 for the gun, filled out no paperwork and underwent no background check.

After making the parking-lot buy, the man walked away feeling that something wasn't right. He called a friend, an investigator at the Oregon Department of Justice, who suggested that he call the ATF.

This began an investigation that would identify Nordstrom as the seller of the .22. The ATF would learn that Nordstrom, who is not a licensed gun dealer, had purchased 122 handguns in less than five years - 103 of them from Blackwater Tactical, according to the affidavit.

Undercover ATF agents and an informant, posing as firearms buyers, met several times with Nordstrom and his cronies at his store, buying a wide array of weapons. Nordstrom also rented space to Blackwater Tactical.

Federal agents found about 300 firearms at Nordstrom's home, business and other locations, reportedly uncovering the Sten submachine gun at his house in Scio.

Sullivan allowed Nordstrom to remain out of jail as he awaits trial. She ordered that he not possess or sell any firearms. But she allowed Nordstrom's wife to keep a rifle in their home as long as her husband had no access to the weapon.

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Originally posted by Aquabird:
At a gun show I frequent, there is an FFL holder that I talk to a lot. About a year ago, he told me that his FFL was pulled and he was no longer allowed to sell guns. He still sells reloading gear.
I asked why they pulled it and his answer was that he had a customer by a gun from another man in another state. That man sent it from his FFL.
It seems the sending FFL holder wrote the gun up as a rifle and the receiving FFL holder wrote it up as a carbine.

I am not sure this is the truth, but I do trust this small town guy? He said that he looked the gun up on the internet and the manufacturer called it a carbine, so he did.

If this incident is true, it is pretty petty.
Most gun guys know the difference between a rifle and a carbine. I am not sure on the crossover point.

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Originally posted by alptraum:

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Originally posted by Aquabird:
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When recording firearm dispositions, there are 3 (non NFA) types = Long gun, handgun, other. Long gun gets further broken down to one of two types, rifle or shotgun. There is no carbine, that's FFL 101. As others have said, ATF is usually pretty easy to deal with...if you follow the rules. I'm skeptical the guy lost his license over just that one error.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by alptraum:


When recording firearm dispositions, there are 3 (non NFA) types = Long gun, handgun, other. Long gun gets further broken down to one of two types, rifle or shotgun. There is no carbine, that's FFL 101. As others have said, ATF is usually pretty easy to deal with...if you follow the rules. I'm skeptical the guy lost his license over just that one error.

This. But if he didn't know that... what else was he doing wrong?