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Don't hold your breath waiting for Trump to get any credit at all for this. We know he would get all the blame if Detroit's homicide rate went up.  Detroit's Lowest Homicide Year in Fifty Years ... stirred anti-clockwise. | ||
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Most cities except for Baltimore had lower rates in 2017. Some cities were down sharply to levels not seen since they started keeping records. ---------------------- Let's Go Brandon! | |||
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Probably because everybody either moved out, or already got kilt. | |||
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Did they change the definition of murder? I remember some time back about reports that stated some great news. Shen someone did a deeper check and found out that some of the legal definitions had been changed, and some of the cases had been "bargained". Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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Columbus bucked that trend and set a new high of 140, surpassing the previous record set in 1991. Columbus also recorded its first homicide of 2018 18 minutes into the new year. Some smart politician types came out and said the increase was mostly related to drugs and gangs. Who would have thought that?! | |||
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That was what I was thinking. Rolan Kraps SASS Regulator Gainesville, Georgia. NRA Range Safety Officer NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol / Personal Protection Inside the Home | |||
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Maybe they shot up all the ammo! | |||
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To be considered. Population now is about 1,000,000 less than in 1967. __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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To give some credit where it's due, Chief Craig seems to be more proactive than his predecessors, in other words not so concerned with holding a higher office. He also seems to be seen in a better light with his officers. And as a plus he is a firm believer in law abiding citizens of Detroit to arm themselves and have CPL's. There are still a lot of problems though. Drugs, robberies, gangs, poverty, no parental supervison, the usual bag of tricks. I think the aging population, lower population, these factor in also. Gentrification of the Downtown and the Midtown (aka Cass Corridor, 15 years ago a s***hole), influx of development and redevelopment in those two areas, three casinos, stadiums, the state running Belle Isle parkland and riverfront development along with an influx of hipsters is helping change the demographics from the ones with propensity for violence to a more "refined" citizenry. Don't get me wrong, it's still a place that you need a watch so you know what time it is. Because in a lot of places there if you knew what time it was you would know that it's no time to be there. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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Hid the bodies better! ___________________________ "I Get It Now" Beth Greene | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by shovelhead: I think the aging population, lower population, these factor in also. is helping change the demographics/QUOTE] Instead of just 1,000,000 fewer, how many in the criminal age group? Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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This is the kind of stuff Baltimore was pulling when the great Martin O'Malley was mayor. Homicides changed to suicides, causes of death uncertain, things like that. | |||
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Well said, sir  Although I've not *frequented* the downtown area since the 80s, when I used to work a stone's throw from the 'real' Tiger Stadium, knowing where you are and what time it is will definitely help you keep your head, which should be well on a swivel. We go very occasionally, nowadays. Oh, and I was born in Detroit. We've been to Eastern Market a few times in past years, but that is about it. One other time for a daytime pub crawl with a group of friends from our animal rescue group; that was just this past year. The Police Chief is definitely serious about folks having their CPLs and has said so on TV. He is really in support of it and people defending themselves in their homes. That, along with the demographic shift mentioned above, seems to be helping. All that said, I am in no rush to go there... | |||
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Yup. Chief Craig seems to be a straight shooter. And, much as I've little use for Democrats, most times, Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan is not a bad mayor, either. He's bringing business and people back to the City. If nothing else: Despite his being nominally anti-gun, while Craig has been very vocal in support of the RKBA, Duggan's left Craig alone to do his job and express his views. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Not as bid a achievement when you consider the rate in 3016. | |||
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Obviously Obama and Hillary should get the credit because they got people to buy all those guns.  ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Your last paragraph brings up an interesting point too. Mike Duggan as Mayor. I'm closer to Lansing than Detroit but watched last year's Mayoral race with some interest. Duggan's challenger Joel Loving aka Coleman A. Young Jr. was a real piece of work. Duggan won 72% to Young's 28%. I give the majority of Detroit's voters a hand for seeing that Junior was nothing more than in impediment to the city's potential comeback. Divisiveness. From the Detroit Free Press's Rochelle Riley:https://www.freep.com/story/news/columnists/rochelle-riley/2017/11/07/rochelle-riley-coleman-young-second-tried-his-fathers-name-and-didnt-fit/828476001/ While I do not always agree with her columns, this one was spot on in my opinion of Junior. And Junior has announced that he will be running for John Conyers vacant seat in Congress. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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I wonder what the murder rate might be in the metropolitan area of Detroit compared to the official city of Detroit. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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I am in Georgia now, just saying. "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout" R.I.P. R.A.H. Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga NRA Basic Rifle Instructor Red Cross First Aid/CPR/AED Adult/Child/Infant Instructor Red Cross Wilderness First Aid Instructor | |||
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We decided to let Chicago win one... Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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