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OREGON STATE SENATOR PROPOSES LAW THAT WOULD ALLOW GUN CONFISCATION WITHOUT DUE PROCESS
APRIL 19, 2017 | DANIEL LANG | THE DAILY SHEEPLE |

California has done it, Illinois is trying to do it, and Oregon may be next. These are the states that have laws, or have attempted to pass laws that make gun confiscation very easy. These laws basically allow any police officer or civilian to ask a court to confiscate the firearms of a family member, if that person may be at risk of suicide or domestic violence. That person doesn’t get to offer any input, nor does their need to be very much evidence that the person in question is dangerous.
The latest proposal comes from Oregon state senator Brian Boquist, whose Navy veteran son committed suicide last year. His bill “would enable immediate family members to obtain a court order to prevent a person showing signs of wanting to commit suicide or hurt others from obtaining a gun for a year.” The order would also force that person to give up all of their firearms.
As with California’s version of this law, this bill allows for ex parte court hearings, which means that the gun owner who is going to have his rights taken away, doesn’t have to be present during the hearing. If someone is subject to this order, they can only contest it once during its 12 month duration.
As you might expect, gun rights activists are outraged. Many of them poured into the state capital building on Monday to protest the bill. NRA spokeswoman Keely Hopkins summed up how dangerous this legislation would be for gun owners: “This bill allows for a protective order to remove your Second Amendment rights, not because of a criminal conviction, but based on third-party allegations using an evidentiary standard that falls far below what’s normally required for the removing of fundamental rights.”

http://www.thedailysheeple.com...t-due-process_042017


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This is yet one more of innumerable demonstrations that they will never give up. Never.




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So Glad I don't live in anyone of those states, how far they have gone from reality, too bad the fact that all these laws are precursors to further government intrusion into the rights of the citizens of CA, OR, WA, et all...

One day they will start requiring your phone records, bank records, you'll have to have a gps transmitting your whereabouts, driving will be recorded, just in case you need to have your car/bike confiscated because someone doesn't like the way you drive, or have a sticker for something they don't like.

Let it keep happening to them, they will reap what they sow



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Socialist Venezuelan Leader Steps Up Arming of Supporters After Outlawing, Confiscating Civilian Guns



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One day they will start requiring your phone records, bank records, you'll have to have a gps transmitting your whereabouts, driving will be recorded, just in case you need to have your car/bike confiscated because someone doesn't like the way you drive, or have a sticker for something they don't like.

Let it keep happening to them, they will reap what they sow


One day they will start requiring your phone records (Already done)

bank records (Already done)

you'll have to have a gps transmitting your whereabouts (Already done with electronics in cars plus cellular)

driving will be recorded (Like street video cameras? My parking garage has a multi-million $ plate reader funded by DHS.)

This is every state, just not the left coast.
 
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if he has that little concept of due process, how about we try him for treason and just find him guilty - its all the process he is due

I find him guilty



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Sorry about the senator's son, but he needs to realize that without a gun his son probably would have just found another way.
 
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Hopefully this travesty will end up before the Supreme Court.
 
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Sorry about the senator's son, but he needs to realize that without a gun his son probably would have just found another way.

Exactly. The gun was only a means to the end. Might as well confiscate sheets, ties, ropes, razors and cars.
 
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Sorry about the senator's son, but he needs to realize that without a gun his son probably would have just found another way.

Exactly. The gun was only a means to the end. Might as well confiscate sheets.

Too late for Aaron Hernandez...


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Yes, because taking away someones guns without due process wouldn't piss them off or push them over the edge at all would it?




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Exactly. The gun was only a means to the end. Might as well confiscate sheets, ties, ropes, razors and cars.


and bridges and swords and rat poison and oxy and heroin (oops, never mind), and rivers, ponds, and National Parks.


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if he has that little concept of due process, how about we try him for treason and just find him guilty - its all the process he is due

I find him guilty
And git a rope. Too bad these so called law makers make laws based on some personel loss. Wonder what drove the son to take his own life? He probably is free to do that, by any method he chose.
 
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Hernandez just used a bed sheet. I want that clown to turn in all of his bedsheets! He is clearly upset and needs help. Remove his shoe lace privileges also. Maternity pants and velcro sneakers only.
 
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Hopefully this travesty will end up before the Supreme Court.


It would be even better if the people of Oregon did not let the law pass.




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re: "you'll have to have a gps transmitting your whereabouts (Already done with electronics in cars plus cellular)"

add that some insurance companies are offering a slick little discount on your auto premium if you agree to let them install a tracker 'to confirm how many miles you are exposed in driving'.....s

re: "It would be even better if the people of Oregon did not let the law pass."

Yes it would. However, there is some gimmick they have discovered where the Gov can 'declare an emergency' and by pass normal procedures leaving out that very step. The (now DNC majority controlled) legislature makes a magic vote that somehow declares the Emergency now validated and needs no public vote. I keep trying to find out the details but run into circular references and mysteriously dead/not working/error/moved/missing/non existent links on the state law websites.
 
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As a First Sergeant I had a lot of marital disputes. Usurally a soldier would get kicked out and need a bed for a few days. After that, the couple got back together. Along with Social Work, Chaplian and such,
In between, the spouse would call. They had script. The soldier was to have his civilian clothes taken, would wear his uniform, be restricted to the barracks or work. Finally he was to report to the CQ every hour. This always ended with "I'm afraid of him."
My reply was always the same. Go to court and get a no contact order. Then bring it in. When they started complaining I pointed out that they wouldn't call a civilian place of employment and mak such demands.
All of these gun confiscation laws make no provision to stop an angry spouse from lying and making problems. In fact, there's no punishment if they do lie.



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the law is one thing, but you need to deal with the people that propose this kind of law in the first place

voting the law down doesn't stop this cretin from doing anything else

he needs to be shut down



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Sorry about the senator's son, but he needs to realize that without a gun his son probably would have just found another way.
Aaron Hernandez was in jail, in a cell, restricted from possessing any weapons of any kind, and he still managed to get the job done. Wake up moron, your kid had issues and if it wasn't a gun, if would have been a car or sleeping pills or any number of other options.

These types utterly disgust me projecting their issues onto the rest of us.


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