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https://twitter.com/i/status/1205546534957387776

liars all

FAKE.NEWS. Now way in hell

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Originally posted by sdy:
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It's impossible to find common ground with people that deep in the woods.

I have had a whole bunch of things hit at once so I really haven't had time to dig into the Horowitz report.

But every once in a while I read a news report that triggers a specific search of the report.

One of the things I have hated about the snarky liar James Comey is that he has repeatedly said the dossier wasn't critical to the FISA warrants. The dossier was just part of a "mosaic" with lots of other information used as justification.

When the FISA warrants were released with heavy redactions, it was clear from what was made public that the dossier played a major part of the warrants. Comey still said the dossier wasn't critical.

Now there are multiple examples in the Horowitz report that show Comey just lied and lied.

One example (that I went looking for after a FOX news story)



"a single source FISA" versus "It was just part of a mosaic"

Of all the bad actors in this fake Russia collusion conspiracy, Comey may be the biggest fraud, the most consistent public liar of the whole gaggle of liars and fabricators. What a mask he wears.

Crossfire Hurricane Team Didn’t Know About Steele’s Work For A Russian Oligarch, DOJ Report Says

https://dailycaller.com/2019/1...ussian-oligarch-fbi/

FBI agents who investigated the Trump campaign’s possible ties to Russia did not know at the time that dossier author Christopher Steele was working for a Russian oligarch.
FBI and Justice Department officials told the DOJ inspector general that the information was significant to Crossfire Hurricane, the name of the Trump-Russia probe.
Steele worked for lawyers for Oleg Deripaska, a billionaire aluminum magnate.
Stuart Evans, a DOJ attorney, told the IG that government officials would have “wanted to dive into” the Steele-Deripaska links had they known about it during the investigation.

The FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane team turned over every rock to find out whether members of the Trump campaign were working with Russians in 2016, but failed to discover that Christopher Steele, the FBI’s primary source for claims of a Trump-Russia conspiracy, was himself working for a Russian oligarch, according to the Justice Department inspector general’s report.

FBI and Justice Department officials told the inspector general (IG) that investigators would have wanted to assess Steele’s link to the oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, in order to determine if it had an impact on Steele’s dossier.

Steele told the IG that he worked for attorneys for the oligarch, who is not identified by name in the report, but appears to be Deripaska, an aluminum magnate with close ties to Vladimir Putin. Steele denied having a relationship with Deripaska, and said he’s only met the billionaire one time.

Steele did not describe the nature of his work for Deripaska, but the founders of Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele, said in a book published last month that Steele had in turn hired them in 2016 to investigate former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

Deripaska’s lawyers had hired Steele to track down millions of dollars that the oligarch believed Manafort had stolen. “Weeks before Trump tapped Manafort to run his campaign, Christopher Steele had hired Fusion for help investigating Manafort,” the Fusion founders wrote in their book, “Crime in Progress.”

“The matter had nothing to do with politics and was a typical commercial assignment.”

Simpson and Fritsch said they did not ask Steele the identity of the ultimate client, but The New Yorker has reported that it was Deripaska.

“[F]rom the start, Fusion, Steele, Russia and Trumpworld were on a collision course,” New Yorker writer Jane Mayer wrote of the labyrinthian contacts.

Steele’s work for Deripaska overlapped with his investigation of the Trump campaign.

The bureau relied heavily on information that Steele gathered for his dossier, including allegations of a “well-developed conspiracy of coordination” between the Trump campaign and Russian government. The FBI cited the dossier extensively in applications for surveillance warrants against Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

The IG report said that the dossier played a “central and essential” role in the FBI’s decision to seek the spy warrants. It also said that the Crossfire Hurricane team was unable to corroborate any of the dossier’s allegations. FBI agents also spoke to a major dossier source who disavowed much of the information that Steele attributed to him in the dossier.

Bill Priestap, who served as chief of the FBI’s counterintelligence unit, and Stuart Evans, who led the Justice Department’s Office of Intelligence, told the IG that they did not know that Steele, a former British spy, was working in 2016 for the oligarch, who is identified as “Russian Oligarch 1” in the IG report. (RELATED: Steele Dossier Played ‘Central And Essential’ Role In FBI’s FISA On Carter Page)

Priestap and Evans told the IG that the Steele-Deripaska connection was relevant to Crossfire Hurricane since investigators relied so heavily on Steele’s dossier during the probe.

“I don’t recall knowing that there was any connectivity,” Priestap told the IG of the links between Steele and Deripaska. Priestap said that it was “completely fair” to say that the FBI would have wanted to assess the Steele-Deripaska relationship.

Evans also told the IG that his office would have evaluated the relationship if lawyers had known about it.

“Counterintelligence investigations are complex, and often involve as I said, you know, double dealing, and people playing all sides …. I think that [the connection between Steele and Russian Oligarch 1] would have been yet another thing we would have wanted to dive into,” he told the IG.

Some FBI agents and at least one Justice Department official knew of Steele’s links to Deripaska, though it is unclear why the information didn’t make it to the Crossfire Hurricane team.

According to the report, an FBI case agent on the Crossfire Hurricane team told the IG that Steele’s handling agent knew that Steele had a relationship with Deripaska, but did not mention it to him.

“He would have wanted to know that information because it could have indicated that Steele was being used in a Russian ‘controlled operation’ to influence perceptions (i.e., a disinformation campaign),” the IG report said, referring to the case agent’s statement to investigators.

Justice Department official Bruce Ohr also knew that Steele worked for Deripaska. Steele lobbied Ohr regarding visa issues that Deripaska was having in 2016, according to publicly available emails. Steele also told Ohr during a meeting in Washington, D.C. on July 30, 2016 that Deripaska’s attorney, Paul Hauser, was investigating Manafort.

Steele’s ties to Deripaska have loomed large over the Trump-Russia probe ever since they were revealed early last year. Their links have raised questions over whether Deripaska was a witting or unwitting source of information for Steele, who was hired to investigate Trump in June 2016 by Fusion GPS. Steele’s work for Deripaska has also surprised some because the former British spy was seen as a staunch critic of the Putin regime.

Deripaska has had a complicated relationship with the U.S. government. The State Department revoked his visa in the 2000s over concerns that he had links to Russian organized crime. But Deripaska has been allowed to visit the U.S. over the years on diplomatic visas. He also helped the U.S. government in an effort to track down Robert Levinson, an FBI agent who disappeared in Iran.

Deripaska’s lawyers have denied that the businessman paid for or helped prepare the dossier.

“However, I can confirm that neither my firm nor I was involved in the commissioning of, preparation of or payment for the so-called ‘Steele Dossier.’ I am not aware of any involvement by Mr. Deripaska in the commissioned, preparing or paying for that document,” Paul Hauser, a partner at the firm Bryan Cave, said in a letter to senators on Feb. 14.
Former Associate Deputy U.S. Attorney General Bruce Ohr enters an elevator after testifying behind closed doors before the House Judiciary and House Oversight and Government Reform Committees on his alleged contacts with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and former British spy Christopher Steele, who compiled a "dossier" of allegations linking Donald Trump to Russia, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., Aug. 28, 2018. REUTERS/Chris Wattie

Steele also told the IG that Deripaska had no influence on the information in the dossier.

“In his interview with the OIG, Steele denied that his reporting on Carter Page resulted from work he performed on Russian Oligarch 1’s behalf. Steele described as ‘ridiculous’ any claim that Russian Oligarch 1 was involved in his reporting or influenced it,” the IG report said.

Steele’s claim rested in part on his belief that Deripaska had “no contact with any of his sources” for the dossier. But Deripaska did have contact with a businessman who Steele told the FBI was an unwitting source for most of the dossier’s most eye-popping claims.

Deripaska and the unwitting source, Sergei Millian, were photographed speaking to each other on June 17, 2016 at an economic forum in St. Petersburg with Deripaska. Steele wrote the first memo of his dossier three days later.

Steele claimed that Millian, who is referred to as Person 1 in the IG report, unwittingly provided information to his main information collector, who is identified as Primary Sub-Source. Millian has long denied being a source for the dossier.

Steele’s primary source disavowed some of Steele’s reporting during an interview with FBI agents in January 2017. The IG report said that the source said that he shared “rumor and speculation” about Donald Trump and members of the campaign with Steele, who reported them as fact in the dossier.

The Crossfire Hurricane team failed to disclose the source’s derogatory comments about Steele in applications to renew surveillance against Page.

Priestap, the former counterintelligence official who oversaw Crossfire Hurricane, told the IG he saw “no indication whatsoever” as of May 2017 that Russia had funneled disinformation through Steele.

Deripaska had accused Manafort of stealing $19 million from an investment they shared in a Ukrainian cable company. Manafort, who is serving time in prison on financial crimes charges stemming from the special counsel’s investigation, sent emails during the 2016 campaign in which he asked an associate how he could use his position on the campaign to “get whole” with Deripaska.

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/s.../1205649475349467136

FBI Dir Wray makes me sick. What a wimp.

FBI declares it has no records of discipline against lawyers in Russia FISA case

of course they have no records - in their minds they've done nothing wrong

Senator Josh Hawley calls out the FBI over their Collusion with the DNC (sorry, I don't know how to hotlink a Youtube video here):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...A3JT_lg#action=share

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sorry, I don't know how to hotlink a Youtube video here):

Under the video click share. A window will open up with options of how you want to share it. Click embed. Copy that code.

Click on the film strip icon on your reply window to get your flash video command, paste it in the middle.

good video above.

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https://dailycaller.com/2019/1...ence-dossier-source/

The IG updated its original FISA report

Confirms something we have wondered about for a long time - Sergei Millian

The FBI opened up a counterintelligence investigation in October 2016 against a Belarusian-American businessman who Christopher Steele said was an unwitting source for his infamous anti-Trump dossier, according to a newly unredacted version of a Justice Department inspector general’s report.

The FBI failed to disclose the investigation against the alleged source — called Person 1 in the report — to Justice Department attorney and in applications submitted to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) surveillance warrants against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Sergei Millian = Person 1

The report also said the FBI failed to tell the surveillance court that Steele told investigators during a meeting on Oct. 3, 2016 that he considered Person 1 to be a “boaster” and “embellisher” who “may engage in some embellishment.”

Despite those red flags, the FBI relied on information that Steele attributed to Person 1 to represent in Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications that there was probable cause to believe that Page was a Russian agent

Investigators also failed to tell the FISC in applications to renew surveillance against Page that Steele’s primary source disputed some of the information in the dossier that was attributed to Person 1.

Steele’s main source , who is called “Primary Sub-Source” in the report, told FBI agents in January 2017 that he shared unverified “rumors” and bar-room talk with Steele , who in turn reported the information as confirmed .

The sub-source said he spoke by phone once to someone he believed to be Person 1. Steele has disputed his chief source’s claims and said in a statement Tuesday that he “meticulously” documented and recorded conversations with the person

Sergei Millian, who is Person 1, has vehemently denied being a source for Steele’s dossier ever since news outlets reported him as such on Jan. 24, 2017, two weeks after BuzzFeed News published the salacious dossier.

Whether or not Millian did provide information that ended up in the dossier, Steele represented to the FBI that Millian was an unwitting source for several bombshell claims in the document.

It is unclear whether Steele’s information about Millian is what sparked the FBI’s decision to investigate him. Nine days after Steele’s meeting, the bureau’s New York Field Office opened up a counterintelligence investigation on Millian. Nine days after that, the FBI applied for its first FISA warrant against Page. The inspector general (IG) said the Steele dossier played a “central and essential” role in the FBI’s decision to apply for FISAs on Page.


The information about the investigation of Millian was redacted in a version of the IG report released Monday. But the information was unmasked in a version of the report released Wednesday. The report said the FBI and Justice Department declassified the information.

Steele, a former British spy, attributed claims in four of his memos to Millian, who has worked in real estate and as an interpreter.

Steele pinned some of the dossier’s most salacious allegations on Millian. Steele said Millian was one of two sources for the salacious claim that President Donald Trump was with prostitutes in Moscow in 2013, according to the IG report. Millian was also alleged to be a source for the claim that Page and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort were part of a “well-developed conspiracy of co-operation” with the Kremlin.

The IG report said the FBI was unable to corroborate any of the information.

Unexplained in the IG report is why Steele identified Millian with differing code names and alternative descriptions in the dossier.

simple - Steele was trying to hide who the source was. create confusion

Steele referred to Millian as “Source D” in a memo dated June 20, 2016, while Millian was called “Source E” in a memo dated July 28, 2016, according to the report. In a memo from July 30, 2016, Steele calls Millian a “Russian émigré figure” close to the Trump campaign. In a memo dated Aug. 10, 2016, Millian is an “ethnic Russian associate” of Trump.

The IG report blasts the FBI for withholding information about Steele and his sources from its FISA applications against Page.

“We believe the FBI should have specifically and explicitly advised [Justice Department’s Office of Intelligence] about the FBI’s assessment that this particular sub-source relied upon in the FISA application was Person 1, that Steele had provided derogatory information regarding Person 1, and that the FBI had an open counterintelligence investigation on Person 1,” the report says.

The report said that witnesses interviewed in the IG investigation said that the Justice Department typically informs the FISC when sources are themselves subjects of investigations.

“Those facts were relevant to [Office of Intelligence’s] assessment of the strength of the information in the FISA application and, based on what we were told was the Department’s practice, likely would have been included by OI in the application so that the FISC could consider the information in deciding whether to grant the requested FISA authority,” the report says.

After the IG report was released, Millian appeared to acknowledge on Twitter that he was Person 1, but he disputed ever saying what the dossier says he told Steele’s primary source. Millian, who has locked down his Twitter account, also lamented the revelation that he was the target of a counterintelligence investigation.

Millian has been one of the more mysterious figures to emerge from the saga surrounding the dossier.

He gave an interview to ABC News on July 27, 2016 in which he suggested that he had close ties to the Trump campaign, as well as to the Kremlin. Days before the interview, Millian had reached out to former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos to arrange an introductory meeting. They first met on July 30, 2016 and remained in contact through January 2017.

Millian has also said in the past to have brokered real estate deals for the Trump Organization. Michael Cohen, a former lawyer for Trump, told news outlets in 2017 that Millian misrepresented his ties to Trumpworld.

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The dossier has become a complete farce and has proven to be a not very sophisticated piece of misinformation. Only a compliant and enabling media allowed the dossier to survive for so long.

can't get enough of this stuff


https://youtu.be/31eBO-A5G_I

The video comes with the note: “Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz on Wednesday blew apart years of talking points used by Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Calif.), former FBI director James Comey, and others about the bureau’s conduct at the outset of the Russia investigation.”

from:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/...2/after-horowitz.php

this is double posted in the President Trump Thread, but it adds to the posts immediately above.

Comey is a lying scumbag deserving of no respect whatsoever

video at link

https://www.breitbart.com/clip...-was-not-acceptable/

a highly recommended watch

adding: I really really recommend the video. No kidding, "really"

I don't have the slightest doubt the FBI intentionally lied in the Carter Page FISA warrants

A few posts above from the DoJ IG report

"Since this is essentially a single source FISA"

Comey: "How did this happen?" what a joke

I can't stand to listen to that smug lying POS! Should be tarred and feathered, at a minimum!

Comey: “Sure, I’m responsible, I was overconfident as director in our procedures, and it’s important that a leader be accountable and transparent. If I were so director, I’d be saying exactly the same thing that Chris Wray is saying, that we are going to get to the bottom of this because the most important question is, is it systemic? Are the problems in other cases?”

How about leaking confidential FBI memos through your friend/attorney (based upon this BS investigation) to form the foundation of a special counsel appointment to further smear "investigate" the President for colluding with Russia?

Comey is a SMUG, LYING, POS, but beyond that; he willingly and knowingly weaponized a government law enforcement agency to attack the candidacy of someone he politically differed with. An abuse of power to that degree shouldn't get off so easily. Its (literally) criminal and he should be prosecuted as a criminal.

I watched Fox interview with Chris Wallace and boy that Comey has some balls to double down and flat lie on TV that they had any justification for what they did to support Hillary. He tarnished the FBI for me perhaps forever.

How do you trust the FBI now that they have proven to choose the Democrats as their party of choice.

They outed a CIA source (Carter Page) to try and get leverage on President Trump!

This was a huge deal when President Bush was in office and some lame CIA desk pencil pusher chick was supposedly outed by Cheney!! But we don’t have the media so nothing to see here.

HK Ag

Comey, “I signed at least two or three of those FISA’s”

He cannot even come clean on how many FISA’s he signed.
Anyone believe he does not know exactly how many FISA’s he signed to spy on individuals within the Trump campaign?

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Comey, “I signed at least two or three of those FISA’s”

He cannot even come clean on how many FISA’s he signed.
Anyone believe he does not know exactly how many FISA’s he signed to spy on individuals within the Trump campaign?

I had the same exact reaction to that moment in the interview. Like he was answering that he only had two or three beers when the copper is grilling him on the side of the road.

Seriously, what an absolute snake.

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Like he was answering that he only had two or three beers when the copper is grilling him on the side of the road.

We all know what comes after that.

These aren't my pants!

'Too damn late:' Gowdy blasts Comey admission he was wrong about FISA abuse

https://www.washingtonexaminer...ong-about-fisa-abuse

Former Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy blasted former FBI Director James Comey for admitting he was wrong in his handling of the FISA process his department used to obtain warrants to conduct surveillance on associates of President Trump's 2016 campaign.

"Sometimes, Maria, it's better late than never, and sometimes it's just too damn late," Gowdy said Sunday on Fox News. "And in this case, Comey is about two years too late. We could have used his objectivity."

During a wide-ranging interview on Fox News Sunday just hours earlier, Comey acknowledged his department showcased "real sloppiness" as top officials applied for warrants to keep a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign afloat. He admitted he was "wrong" to have said the process was "handled in a thoughtful, responsible way."

Comey's comments followed the Justice Department inspector general's recent report, which outlined more than a dozen instances of errors or omissions top FBI and DOJ officials made as they applied for a federal warrant to conduct surveillance on four individuals associated Trump's campaign.

"I was overconfident in the procedures that the FBI and Justice have built over 20 years. I thought they were robust enough," Comey told host Chris Wallace. "It’s incredibly hard to get a FISA. I was overconfident in those because he’s right, there was real sloppiness."

Comey also said it would have been "impossible" for him to know the details of the FISA application process "seven layers below" him. The remarks angered Republicans such as Gowdy.

"He said it was a policy and procedure issue, it's not," Gowdy said of Comey. "There have always been policies against manufacturing evidence and withholding exculpatory evidence. That's not new. Those aren't new policies. This is a personnel issue. It's the wrong people in the wrong positions of power."

Would love to see a host set just one rule for Comey at the beginning of an interview.

1. Jim, you cannot use “To the best of my recollection" to begin a sentence.

A look back in time.

The Weekly Standard was a magazine founded by Bill Kristol.

Kristol's hate of Donald Trump, and the resultant backlash, led to the demise of the Weekly Standard in Dec 2018.

As the Weekly Standard died, here is one of its articles from July 2018

HPSCI - House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

Author April Doss attacks Devin Nunes and his wild "conspiracy theories". (All of which have proven to actually be true. April Doss is a fool)

https://www.washingtonexaminer...s?mod=article_inline

April Doss (July 2018)

The HPSCI had been operating as a bit of a circus from the beginning of its Russia investigation in early 2017, with Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) lobbing wild accusations about the unmasking of the identities of U.S. citizens in intelligence reporting by Obama administration officials—a series of accusations that led Nunes to make bizarre late-night trips to the White House and convene press conferences on the White House lawn

Despite the constant sense that this once-sober committee was on the verge of running off the rails, it managed to cling to just enough credibility to stay on track until the winter of 2018, when Nunes insisted on releasing a memo that endorsed a new conspiracy theory about how a Democratic administration had: abused the FISA process by using salacious opposition research (with the implication that the funding source made the information itself suspect), incorporated that suspect research into a FISA application, and sent the application to the secret proceedings of the FISC without telling the court there could be bias in the information.

Through this complicated string of subterfuges, Nunes claims, the Democrats managed to pervert justice in order to spy on the Trump campaign.

DEMs did pervert justice and spied on the Trump campaign. Some would call it treason. I would.


Over time, the conspiracy theory would deepen: Since the dossier included information from sources in Russia, that meant that the Hillary for America campaign had colluded with Russia to provide fake information to Christopher Steele, who slipped the fake news to the FBI, which then pulled the wool over the eyes of a succession of four FISC judges, each of whom signed off on further surveillance against Carter Page.

The FBI didn't "pull wool". The FBI lied. The four FISC judges should resign in disgrace for being so easily duped


It’s an exhausting theory to contemplate, and yet one that many people, fueled by conspiracy-mongering rumors on the Internet about the workings of the “deep state ,” believed. What the newly released documents show is that the theory is utterly bunk.

think about the recent Victor Davis Hanson interview. The "theory" was true, not utterly bunk

On page 15 of the initial application, the FBI offers a lengthy explanation of the sourcing of information about Page’s 2016 trip to Moscow. In sum, the Steele dossier was only one part of the case against Page and only one part of the dossier was cited; it focused on a single event against a much larger background of Russian activities and Page’s own activities and interactions with indicted and convicted Russian spies. Page was, after all, a man who had boasted in a 2013 letter that he was an informal adviser to the Kremlin.

So against this fuller background of facts (not the complete facts, since the released applications are full of redactions, and since there may be other facts that haven’t yet come to light), it is apparent that the FBI would have been derelict in its duty if it didn’t at least investigate whether there was cause for concern.

Page had longstanding ties to Russia, including past ties to indicted and convicted Russian spies; the intelligence community had concluded that Russia was undertaking active measures to influence the 2016 U.S. election; and Page made a trip to Russia, possibly meeting with Kremlin officials, while he was an adviser to Donald Trump’s campaign. Taken together, it appears to be probable cause.

but Carter Page was working w the CIA, and the FBI knew it. And then the FBI lied to the FISC court about it


In a tantalizing partial sentence, the FISA application states that “the FBI believes that the Russian government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with Candidate #1’s campaign”; the rest of the sentence trails off into a lengthy redaction.

A statement directly from the Steele dossier. so "tantalizing" that Carter Page was never charged w anything and the Mueller investigation came up completely empty

Although the FBI didn’t believe Steele was aware of who had originated this request or for precisely what purpose,

an FBI lie

it noted in the first application, “The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person [who hired Steele] was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.” The later applications explain that the FBI severed its relationship with Steele because, after giving his information to the FBI, he had also talked to the press.

However, per the applications, “notwithstanding Source #1’s reason for conducting the research,” because of Steele’s past reliability in providing useful and accurate information, “the FBI believes Source #1’s information herein to be credible.”


Horowitz report completely discredits Steele. And the FBI knew he was discredited in the summer of 2016 and then even more so in January 2017

From all of this, somehow, Devin Nunes spun a crazy conspiracy narrative. Now that the underlying FISA documents have been released, that narrative—along with the HPSCI—is falling apart.

poor old Devin Nunes and his "crazy conspiracy narrative". Too bad for trash writers like April Doss that Nunes was right from the very start.

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above story originally seen at

https://www.powerlineblog.com/...l-doss-revisited.php

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