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so does Carter Page get to sue Jame Wolfe and Ali Watkins for defamation?

follow up civil suit would be appropriate...



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so does Carter Page get to sue Jame Wolfe and Ali Watkins for defamation?

follow up civil suit would be appropriate...


He has six suits ongoing, and will likely refile the seventh suit against Yahoo's parent company Oath, Inc. that was dismissed by an Obama appointee. Note, that decison did not address the merits of the defamation claim.





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The indictment against Wolfe does not include charges of improperly releasing classified information.

All 3 counts are for "False Statement to a Government Agency"

I wonder what would have happened if he had told the truth in the FBI interviews.

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Ali Watkins outed Michael Flynn on 15 Mar 2017

then she outed Carter Page on 3 Apr 2017

Rachel Maddow and Watkins ridiculed the Trump campaign for not knowing about Carter Page. But the FBI never told Donald Trump about any concerns re Carter Page. And Watkins pretended her journalism work figured it out. (With a little help from her friend)

What an amazing "vision" she has.
 
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What an amazing "vision" she has.




Yes, her talents seem to lie more between the sheets than in journalism.
 
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so does Carter Page get to sue Jame Wolfe and Ali Watkins for defamation?

follow up civil suit would be appropriate...


Just because this dirtbag leaked the info, doesn’t change whether it’s true or not. Doubt Carter page gonna get anything out of anybody for defamation. His cross would be fun if you have ever seen his nutty demeanor on TV.


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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...g-goes-judge-n881376

The former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer accused of lying to FBI agents about his contacts with reporters was released from custody Friday after a brief court proceeding.

James A. Wolfe, 58, who was arrested Thursday at his Maryland home, must appear at FBI headquarters on Monday for booking. He will then have an initial appearance in federal court in Washington on Tuesday.

Wolfe, who retired in May, was indicted on three counts of making false statements in December about contacts with reporters, including providing sensitive information related to the work of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
 
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
so does Carter Page get to sue Jame Wolfe and Ali Watkins for defamation?

follow up civil suit would be appropriate...


He has six suits ongoing, and will likely refile the seventh suit against Yahoo's parent company Oath, Inc. that was dismissed by an Obama appointee. Note, that decison did not address the merits of the defamation claim.


He’s got more suits than Mens Wearhouse!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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He’s got more suits than Mens Wearhouse!


We're gonna like the way Wolfe looks in an orange jumpsuit. I guarantee it!
 
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every once in a while you find a report that is so timely

This one is from Feb 2017.

Author: Ali Watkins

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimw...ckoVRRqJa#.hrBB77yq8

Actual Intelligence Officials Are Laughing At The Idea Of The “Deep State”

WASHINGTON — It was tough to get any national security official to crack a smile this week — unless you asked them about the proverbial national security boogeyman, “the deep state.”

“The deep what?” one US intelligence official said, then, “Where does she come up with this stuff?”

Since Flynn’s ouster earlier this week, far-left and -right corners have suggested his takedown was an act of the “deep state” — a behind-the-scenes military, intelligence, and national security cohort that secretly determines the direction of the country. There is no evidence, either officially or from inside sources, that anything like that exists in the US. But that hasn’t stopped some media corners, and President Donald Trump, from blaming Flynn’s ouster on coordinated nefarious leak campaigns from the dark corners of the government.

Several other officials just laughed when the term was brought up.

The notion that the “deep state” exists somewhere in the US — or at least in the same concerted way that it does in more authoritarian countries — is a fringe concept often relegated to conspiracy forums. But we are in Donald Trump’s America, and one of his top-tier national security advisers was just felled by anonymous leaks. So, the legend of the deep state lives.

The barrage of leaks over the last week brutally dragged the question of Trump and Russia back into the spotlight and ultimately triggered Flynn’s swift fall from grace on Monday night.

says the Buzzfeed shill trying to add credibility to the dossier that Buzzfeed released a few weeks prior

Several officials said the running assumption is that many of the leaks that killed Flynn’s career came from former Obama administration officials, many of whom would have had access to the information that was published and are now no longer in government. Figuring out where the leaks actually came from will be up to the FBI and DOJ — whom Trump said he personally called this week and urged to find who was spilling secrets.

well Ali, one "spiller" is the guy you were sleeping with

As for the deep-state talk, as the intelligence official said, “There’s no substitute for stupid.”

"one intelligence official", maybe Clapper, or Brennan, or even Stefan Halper

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Ali Watkins - what an arrogant lying POS
 
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Temple University May 2014

https://news.temple.edu/news/2...watkins-owl-watchdog

Ali Watkins: From Owl to watchdog

Journalism major Ali Watkins spent some of her internship at McClatchy DC News hanging around elevators and locked doors—but not because she was idle. Rather, she was establishing relationships with people who might serve as sources for stories. And in December 2013, her creative persistence paid off.

A breaking national story was the direct result of tips she received through unnamed sources with whom she has developed trusting relationships since she began reporting for McClatchy in May 2013.

“Probe: Did the CIA spy on the U.S. Senate?”—published March 4, 2014 and co-written by Watkins—detailed an apparent feud between the CIA and the Senate Intelligence Committee over a congressional report on the CIA’s “secret detention and interrogation program.” That article cites sources who say the CIA monitored computers Senate aides used to prepare the report.

It was Watkins’ constant presence that built the trust between her and her sources, leading them to offer key tips and kicking off a two-month investigation. McClatchy was the first to break the story, leaving renowned media outlets like The New York Times scrambling to catch up.

The most important thing she learned is the importance of being a constant presence on Capitol Hill and around the intelligence community—which Watkins credits for landing the CIA story.

“Some people call it stalking. I call it the relentless pursuit of truth,” she said.
 
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Ali Watkins- Is she the "Other Side" of the #MeToo movement? Professionally using the cooch to get ahead.


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I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but is this leaker retired from federal service? If so does this put his pension in jeopardy?
 
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I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but is this leaker retired from federal service? If so does this put his pension in jeopardy?


It sounds like he is retired, I do not know how/if a felony conviction would affected his pension.

"Wolfe had announced his retirement to friends and colleagues in December but remained with the committee until last month. He started working for the committee in 1987.

Wolfe also served four years in the Army as an intelligence analyst, according to his LinkedIn profile."


Complete article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.e97fd463d7f9

Comments to that article suggest he is a Democrat, but the media reports I've seen have not addressed his affiliation. However, when a Republican gets caught doing something, the party is in the headline.
 
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I noticed something just now in Chairman Grassley’s June 6, 2018 letter to DAG Rosenstein about documents and information in the Flynn case.


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..... Lt. General Flynn was an adverse witness in a pending sexual discrimination case against Mr. McCabe at the time Mr. McCabe was supervising a criminal inquiry targeting Lt. General Flynn.


Did we, or I, overlook this until now? Or am I misremembering again?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The sexual harassment case didn't get a lot of attention.

Here is one story about it

https://www.circa.com/story/20...ancer-inside-the-fbi

Former Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz was one of the bureau’s top intelligence analysts and terrorism experts but resigned from the bureau five years ago after she said she was harassed and her career was blocked by top FBI management. She filed a formal sexual discrimination complaint against the bureau in 2013 and it was Flynn, among many others, who publicly came to her aide.

In her first on-camera interview she described the retaliation from McCabe and others in the bureau as “vicious.”
 
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The sexual harassment case didn't get a lot of attention.

Here is one story about it

https://www.circa.com/story/20...ancer-inside-the-fbi

Former Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz was one of the bureau’s top intelligence analysts and terrorism experts but resigned from the bureau five years ago after she said she was harassed and her career was blocked by top FBI management. She filed a formal sexual discrimination complaint against the bureau in 2013 and it was Flynn, among many others, who publicly came to her aide.

In her first on-camera interview she described the retaliation from McCabe and others in the bureau as “vicious.”


I'm sure the me too movement will stand behind Agent Gritz.

Wait. She accused a die hard Demokrat and Trump hater of discrimination and harassment? Nothing to see here, move on.
 
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This post takes us back to the dossier and Christopher Steele. It is a little complicated.

Let’s merge three inputs:

1. A recent article about Steele from a London newspaper

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/art...ssier-case-zqnr2d9bd

2. Pages 25-26 of the dossier

3. A Snopes article about whether the Trump Organization was tied to a Russian Bank

https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...ied-to-russian-bank/

It is an example of how the Steele dossier was weaved into other news stories and exploited by the Clinton campaign before the election (31 October 2016)

First , the recent 7 June 2018 article from the UK paper “The Times”

Christopher Steele is being sued by three Russian businessmen (Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven and German Khan). They were named in the Steele dossier (pages 25-26). The 3 Russians are suing Steele for defamation.

The 3 Russians have filed a defamation lawsuit against Steele in the Washington DC Superior Court. They claim Steele wrote that they and Alfa Group conducted “criminal conduct and alleged co-operation with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election”.

Steele’s lawyers have filed motions to dismiss the defamation lawsuit. The lawyers claim that there was no defamation.

Second , what did the dossier say about the 3 Russians ? Pages 25-26 of the dossier (I called it report #12 earlier in this thread) seemed odd.

This report #12 was dated 14 Sep 2016. Those two pages contained no reference to Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. Two parts of Report #12.







Just considering the dossier, it is not obvious why this is even being reported by Steele for use by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

Third , now the Snopes article ties it all together. The Snopes article is long. I am going to summarize it.

On 31 October 2016 Slate published an article with the headline “Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?.”

The Slate article (one week before the election) claimed there were secret communications between Russia Alfa Group and a server registered to the Trump organization.

The “analysis” was done by an anonymous person “well known in the networking community” and “When they say something about DNS, you believe them. This person has technical authority and access to data.”

Another expert, Paul Vixie, proclaimed “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.”

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On the same day, 31 Oct 2016, here comes Hillary




The Snopes article explains there was more analysis done by other experts. With results like this:

“According to this Slate article, Trump has a secret server for communicating with Russia. Even Hillary has piled onto this story …

This is nonsense. The evidence available on the Internet is that Trump neither (directly) controls the domain “trump-email.com”, nor has access to the server. Instead, the domain was set up and controlled by Cendyn, a company that does marketing/promotions for hotels, including many of Trump’s hotels. Cendyn outsources the email portions of its campaigns to a company called Listrak, which actually owns/operates the physical server in a data center in [Philadelphia].”

‘The big story isn’t the conspiracy theory about Trump, but that these malware researchers exploited their privileged access for some purpose other than malware research.”

A lot more at the Snopes article, but it reads that further work debunked the Trump/Alfa connection.

Snopes declares the Trump/Alfa connection as “Unproven”

Big picture Summary :

Steele reports “Alpha Group” tied to Putin. (14 Sep 2016)

Slate reports analysis showing Alfa Bank secretly communicating w Trump server (31 Oct 2016)

H Clinton team writes “This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow” (31 Oct 2016)

Mother Jones reports the dossier information and the Slate article “In recent weeks, reporters in Washington have pursued anonymous online reports that a computer server related to the Trump Organization engaged in a high level of activity with servers connected to Alfa Bank, the largest private bank in Russia.” (31 Oct 2016)

You can play “connect the dots” or just declare it all another set of those strange “coincidences”.
 
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Great article by Sharyl Attkisson

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The FBI's fractured fairytale

Once upon a time, the FBI said some thugs planned to rob a bank in town. Thugs are always looking to rob banks. They try all the time. But at this particular time, the FBI was hyper-focused on potential bank robberies in this particular town.

The best way to prevent the robbery — which is the goal, after all — would be for the FBI to alert all the banks in town. “Be on high alert for suspicious activity,” the FBI could tell the banks. “Report anything suspicious to us. We don’t want you to get robbed.”

Instead, in this fractured fairytale, the FBI followed an oddly less effective, more time-consuming, costlier approach. It focused on just one bank. And, strangely, it picked the bank that was least likely to be robbed because nobody thought it would ever get elected president — excuse me, I mean, because it had almost no cash on hand. (Why would robbers want to rob the bank with no cash?)

Stranger still, this specially-selected bank the FBI wanted to protect above all others happened to be owned by a man who was hated inside and outside the FBI.

So, to protect this bank owned by the guy the FBI hated, the FBI secretly examined a list of bank employees and identified a few it claimed would be likely to help robbers — or, at least, would not stop a robbery. How did it select these targets? By profiling them based on their pasts.

These particular bank employees, the FBI said, were chosen because they worked long ago with customers who might have known bank robbers in the past — maybe not the particular robbers planning a bank robbery this time, but different people who knew people who were thought to have robbed banks in the past ... or, perhaps, people who thought of robbing banks at some point but never got around to it.

So the FBI decided these particular bank employees, who may have known or met with suspicious people in the past, might be capable of committing a future crime.

Mind you, these targeted bank employees had never served time in prison, never been convicted of anything, never even been charged with a crime. If the FBI had just gone to them and said, “Hey, we think some people are going to rob this bank and we’ve got our eye on you, too,” the bank robbery probably would be avoided. Everybody would be watching out for the robbers.

Instead, the FBI secretly sent at least one spy — er, “informant” — to commingle with the bank employees and get info. Yes, you are thinking, it would seem to make a lot more sense to spy on the would-be robbers than their intended victims. But the FBI chose to spy on the victims. You know, for their own good.

At least one of the FBI informants/spies met with the targeted bank employees, pretending to be interested in them, and asked questions like “If you could have a million dollars tomorrow, what would you buy?” and “Would the owner of this bank be happy for you if you came across a sudden inheritance?” The FBI informant/spy then reported back to FBI headquarters that the bank employees were clearly thinking about robbing the bank, and that the owner of the bank was part of the scheme.

Next, because the FBI claimed these employees were clearly acting suspiciously and had criminal minds, the FBI unleashed the most intrusive, sensitive intel tools on them, tools that are rarely to be used against U.S. citizens — surveillance and wiretapping. FBI officials also leaked information about their investigation to the local press — not information that disparaged the robbers so much as cast suspicion on the bank’s owner and employees. In fact, it almost seemed like the FBI had forgotten all about the robbers.

And so, while all this was going on, the robbers robbed the bank.

Despite all the media innuendo, the secret surveillance and the spies/informants, the FBI said the robbers made off with a lot of cash. Even though the bank didn’t have much cash.

Afterward, the FBI stepped up its investigation of the bank employees. It couldn’t find solid proof the employees had anything to do with any bank robbery but claimed they were present a couple of times when the robbers cased the joint, so they must have known a robbery was going to happen. The owner must have known, too, the FBI concluded.

After digging deeply into the bank employees’ background, the FBI found other things: One bank employee hadn’t paid proper taxes six years before; another had been briefly accused of embezzling from a previous employer years ago but was never charged; a third said things in an FBI interview that the FBI concluded were untrue. The FBI charged them all with crimes and pressured them to become witnesses — not against the robbers, but against the bank owner.

In the end, the FBI held out hope that the townsfolk wouldn’t focus on the idea that all the FBI’s hard work and planning to supposedly protect the town’s banks only resulted in the utter failure of its stated mission: The bank got robbed, the cash would never be recovered, and the robbers would never serve time. Yet, some of the bank employees might — not for the robbery but for that other stuff.

The moral of the story: It’s a weird way to prevent a bank robbery.

On the other hand, if the FBI’s real goal — in this fractured fairytale — was to frame the hated owner of the bank and his employees, it all makes sense.


http://thehill.com/opinion/cam...-fractured-fairytale




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
 
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Body of ltr sent by Nunes to Rosenstein last Friday




Rosenstein says he can't schedule a brief until Thursday because:

"The Deputy Attorney General is representing the United States in a brief unrelated visit to a foreign nation, one of America’s key intelligence partners. He, along with the FBI Director and DNI Coats, look forward to further briefing and again presenting responsive documents to Chairman Nunes and the rest of his colleagues in the Gang of 8 meeting scheduled for Thursday of this week,"

So Rosenstein can visit a foreign nation, but he doesn't have time to meet the Tuesday deadline. Maybe Rosenstein is visiting a foreign nation to get more dirt to give to Mueller. Can't wait to get Rosenstein out of DoJ.
 
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...So Rosenstein can visit a foreign nation, but he doesn't have time to meet the Tuesday deadline. Maybe Rosenstein is visiting a foreign nation to get more dirt to give to Mueller. Can't wait to get Rosenstein out of DoJ.


I'm still trying to figure him out. With the FISA warrants was he part of the conspiracy? Was he dumb enough to get duped? AND WHY DID HE APPOINT MUELLER???
 
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