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I had to force myself to watch it, but Comey did a podcast w "Better Angels"


https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1222981948311842817

It was a softball lovefest

Comey harped on the DoJ IG report and that it identified FBI mistakes in protocol but it found there was sufficient evidence to open the 2016 counterintel investigation and there was no political bias.

He was asked about AG Barr disputing the IG report and accusing the FBI of spying on the Trump campaign

Comey said Barr confuses him and troubles him. Comey said the report utterly refutes there was FBI spying.

He said the report also showed there was no FBI cabal out to get Trump, no tapping of wires, and no spying.

Comey was disappointed that AG Barr has not said that he was wrong. And that Barr keeps insinuating there was some problem w the investigation

Comey: "I don't know what to make of that"

Coemy said the report is 400 pages long and everyone should read it.

Comey was gratified the report said the FBI did their duty.

Comey said there was a confidential human source who spoke to Papadopoulos long after PAapdopoulos left the campaign (is he mixing Papadopoulos w Carter PAge ?)

This was a regular FBI investigation technique.

The person wasn't on the campaign at the time and the questions weren't designed to find out about the campaign.

(if you haven't spotted it yet, Comey is lying almost throughout the entire podcast)

Comey constantly made himself a martyr who put the FBI institutional interests above his personal interests.

He regrets not knowing earlier of the Clinton emails found on Weiner's laptop. (because McCabe kept that info hidden. he didn't mention that)

When the FBI discussed whether to tell congress in late Oct 2016 about the emails discovered on Weiner's laptop, FBI lawyer Trisha Anderson asked if he should consider that would help elect Donald Trump. Comey said no, going down that path lies the death of the FBI as an independent institution (says the guy who destroyed the FBI reputation)

Comey said he had no interest in hurting or helping either candidate

His personal and political interests were pushed to a lower level.

His wife was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton. She kept asking him why he had to be the one to make the announcement.

Before he made the announcement to reopen the Clinton investigation in late Oct, his chief of staff called the DoJ chief of staff. The message was that Comey felt he had to tell congress.

The DoJ answer came back that AG Lynch thought it was a bad idea, but she did not wish to speak to Comey about it. And at that moment, Comey knew they were handing the job to him.

He thought about throwing it back to AG Lynch, but he decided that would be a cowardly thing to do.

Sometimes he fantasizes that he did throw it back.

After Trump won, he was stunned. He felt he needed to engage in a responsible transition (so he continued the counter intel op into the President and lied to him about it)

Comey's message to Trump voters now is to change the way they weigh things. Issues like immigration and taxes should be on a lower level.

What is most important is to maintain a set of values. Such as commitment to truth, rule of law, decency, openness and transparency.

he said Trump lies constantly. We should focus on our "set of values" and push aside policy disagreements.

He said we all care about the same things. And that we are making progress towards achieving our common set of values.

if you think it was hard to listen to this total line of bullshit, you would be correct)

it might be a while before he gets that AG Barr apology
 
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keeping the above post in mind, here is a Comey opinion piece that just came out in the Wash Post.

Wash Post - go to media for FBI leaks and disinformation

https://www.washingtonpost.com...77c436617_story.html

so Horowitz concluded he didn't find FBI bias in the FISA process.

How can there not be FBI bias when the former FBI DIR James Comey writes this:

"Understandably, millions of Americans today see darkness. Our president is a bad person and an incompetent leader. He lies constantly, stokes flames of racial division, tries to obstruct justice and represents much of what our Founders feared about a self-interested demagogue."

"Since the beginning, the United States has built a system with bad and incompetent leaders in mind. In 1866, during the era of our first impeached president, abolitionist Frederick Douglass said: “Our government may at some time be in the hands of a bad man. . . . We ought to have our government so shaped that even when in the hands of a bad man we shall be safe.”"

"Of course, the way Republicans are acting today means they will inevitably lose power, and for a very long time — an exile they will richly deserve."

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in the court of public opinion and common sense, it is impossible that Comey was not deeply biased against Donald Trump, and that Comey would have done / will do everything in his power to bring down the President we elected
 
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In public at mid day for that bastard.



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If this proves out, some folks on the Mueller team need significant repercussions.


Key witness told Team Mueller that Russia collusion evidence found in Ukraine was fabricated.

By John Solomon

One of Robert Mueller’s pivotal trial witnesses told the special prosecutor’s team in spring 2018 that a key piece of Russia collusion evidence found in Ukraine known as the “black ledger” was fabricated, according to interviews and testimony.

The ledger document, which suddenly appeared in Kiev during the 2016 U.S. election, showed alleged cash payments from Russian-backed politicians in Ukraine to ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

“The ledger was completely made up,” cooperating witness and Manafort business partner Rick Gates told prosecutors and FBI agents, according to a written summary of an April 2018 special counsel’s interview.

In a brief interview with Just the News, Gates confirmed the information in the summary. “The black ledger was a fabrication,” Gates said. “It was never real, and this fact has since been proven true.”

Gates’ account is backed by several Ukrainian officials who stated in interviews dating to 2018 that the ledger was of suspicious origins and could not be corroborated.

If true, Gates’ account means the two key pieces of documentary evidence used by the media and FBI to drive the now-debunked Russia collusion narrative — the Steele dossier and the black ledger — were at best uncorroborated and at worst disinformation. His account also raises the possibility that someone fabricated the document in Ukraine in an effort to restart investigative efforts on Manafort’s consulting work or to meddle in the U.S. presidential election.

Much mystery has surrounded the black ledger, which was publicized by the New York Times and other U.S. news outlets in the summer of 2016 and forced Manafort out as one of Trump’s top campaign officials.

After gaining wide attention as purported evidence of Russian ties to the Trump campaign, the ledger was never introduced as evidence at Manafort’s 2018 trial or significantly analyzed in Mueller’s final 2019 report, which concluded that Trump did not collude with Russia to influence the 2016 election. No FBI 302 interview reports have been released either showing what the FBI concluded about the ledger.

Gates’ interview with the Mueller team now provides a potential clue as to why.

By April 2018, Gates had reached a plea deal to testify against Manafort in a criminal case that ultimately resulted in Manafort’s conviction on tax and illegal lobbying charges. As the day-to-day manager of Manafort’s political consulting and lobbying efforts for former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, Gates handled Manafort’s operations and was deeply familiar with when and how payments were made and from whom.

During a debriefing with Mueller’s team on April 10, 2018, Gates was asked about the August 2016 New York Times article that first alerted the public to the existence of the black ledger and eventually led to Manafort’s downfall.

“The article was completely false,” Gates is quoted as telling Mueller’s team in a written summary of the interview created by some of the attendees. “As you now know there were no cash payments. The payments were wired. The ledger was completely made up.”

When pressed as to why he was so certain, Gates explained the ledger did not match the way Yanukovych’s Party of Regions made payments to consultants like Manafort.

“It was not how the PoR [Party of Regions] did their record keeping,” Gates told the prosecution team, according to the written summary.

Furthermore, Gates revealed that Manafort’s team had confirmed with the party’s former accountant that the black ledger could not be a contemporaneous document because the party’s official accounting books burned in a 2014 fire during Ukraine’s Maidan uprising.

“All the real records were burned when the party headquarters was set on fire when Yanukovych fled the country,” Gates told the investigators, according to the interview summary.

The Party of Regions accountant reached by Manafort’s team told them that the black ledger was a “copy of a document that did not exist” and it “was not even [the accountant’s own] handwriting,” Gates told the prosecutors.

Gates’ account to prosecutors closely matches what several Ukrainian officials have said for more than a year.

Ukraine’s Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor Nazar Kholodnytskyy told me last spring that he believed the black ledger was not a contemporaneous document, and likely manufactured after the fact.

“It was not to be considered a document of Manafort,” Kholodnytskyy said in an interview. “It was not authenticated. And at that time it should not be used in any way to bring accusations against anybody.”

Likewise, one of Gates’ and Manafort’s Ukrainian business partners, Konstantin Kilimnik, who is now indicted in the same case as Manafort but remain at large, wrote a senior U.S. State Department official in summer 2016 that the black ledger did not match actual payments made to Manafort’s firm.

“I have some questions about this black cash stuff because those published records do not make sense,” Kilimnik wrote the State official in August 2016. “The time frame doesn’t match anything related to payments made to Manafort. … It does not match my records. All fees Manafort got were wires, not cash.”

In December 2018, a Ukrainian court ruled that two of that country’s government officials — member of parliament Sergey Leschenko and Artem Sytnyk, the head of the National Anticorruption Bureau of Ukraine — illegally interfered in the 2016 U.S. election by publicizing the black ledger evidence.

While that ruling has been overturned on a technicality, the role of Sytnyk and Leschenko in pushing the black ledger story remains true.

In an interview last summer, Leschenko said he first received part of the black ledger when it was sent to him anonymously in February 2016, but it made no mention of Manafort. Months later, in August 2016, more of the ledger became public, including the alleged Manafort payments.

Leschenko said he decided to publicize the information after confirming a few of the transactions likely occurred or matched known payments.

But Leschenko told me he never believed the black ledger could be used as court evidence because it couldn’t be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that it was authentic, given its mysterious appearance during the 2016 election.

“The black ledger is an unofficial document,” Leschenko told me. “And the black ledger was not used as official evidence in criminal investigations because you know in criminal investigations all proof has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. And the black ledger is not a sample of such proof because we don’t know the nature of such document.”

In the end, the black ledger did prompt the discovery of real financial transactions and real crimes by Manafort, which ultimately led to his conviction.

But its uncertain origins raise troubling questions about election meddling and what constitutes real evidence worthy of starting an American investigation.

https://justthenews.com/key-wi...-evidence-found.html



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https://dailycaller.com/2020/0...-trump-fake-dossier/

Christopher Steele’s private intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, accused President Trump of making “false claims” during a White House speech Thursday about the former British spy’s infamous dossier, which has come under intense scrutiny following a Justice Department inspector general (IG) report.

now come on, that's just funny

“Yesterday @realDonaldTrump made false claims about us,” reads a tweet from Orbis’s Twitter account posted Friday.

“He wildly exaggerated our fees and, contrary to his claims we have never stated any of our reporting is ‘fake’. We stand by the integrity of our research on Kremlin interference in the 2016 election and support for Trump,” the tweet continued.

Trump blasted the dossier as “fake” during a White House speech on Thursday.

“So we had a campaign, little did we know we were running against some very, very bad and evil people with fake dossiers with all of these horrible, dirty cops that took these dossiers and did bad things,” Trump said.

Steele, a former MI6 officer, investigated Trump and members of his campaign in 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and DNC. He provided some of his information to the FBI, which used parts of the dossier to obtain surveillance warrants against Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

In the dossier, Steele alleged that Page was a key player in a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” between the Trump campaign and Russian government. He also claimed that the Kremlin had cultivated Trump for years, and that the campaign was involved in and aware of the hack of Democrats’ emails released through WikiLeaks.

Steele’s Trump-related claims were all but debunked by the special counsel’s report and the Justice Department inspector general’s report on the FBI’s surveillance of Page.

The special counsel found no evidence of a Trump-Russia conspiracy, or that anyone on the Trump campaign was a Russian agent. The report also said that nobody on the campaign was involved in the theft of Democrats’ emails.

The IG report further undercut Steele’s reporting.

It said that Steele’s primary source of information told the FBI in January 2017 that information in the dossier was inaccurate or embellished. Steele himself told his FBI contacts on Oct. 3, 2016 that a sub-source for several key claims in the dossier was a “boaster” and “embellisher.”

The IG report blasted the FBI for relying on Steele’s information, and for failing to disclose its flaws to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which authorized four surveillance orders against Page.

The report also said that some of Steele’s associates told FBI agents in November and December 2016 that the retired spook had shown poor judgement in the past.

In response to Trump, Orbis cited analysis from a former CIA officer and a former FBI official who have been highly critical of the president.

“For a detailed, balanced assessment of our 2016 work take a look at this from former CIA officer and Russia expert John Sipher,” Orbis said, pointing to a Sept. 6, 2017 report that Sipher published at Just Security.

In an early version of the article, Sipher falsely claimed that a Sept. 23, 2016 news article at Yahoo! News provided independent verification of Steele’s work.

ooops

The Yahoo! piece, written by Michael Isikoff, said that U.S. law enforcement officials were investigating whether Carter Page met with Kremlin insiders Igor Sechin and Igor Diveykin during a trip to Moscow in July 2016.

Sipher, a former CIA officer, asserted that the article bolstered the dossier’s credibility

totally wrong mr x cia

But Sipher corrected the article after The Daily Caller notified Just Security that Isikoff’s article was based on information he obtained from Steele.

Though there is no evidence to support Steele’s claims about Page, Sipher asserted that the former Trump aide did meet with Sechin and Diveykin.

wrong again

“We learned that when Carter Page traveled to Moscow in July 2016, he met with close Putin ally and Chairman of the Russian state oil company, Igor Sechin,” he wrote.

“Renowned investigative journalist Michael Isikoff reported in September 2016 that U.S. intelligence sources confirmed that Page met with both Sechin and Divyekin during his July trip to Russia. What’s more, the Justice Department obtained a wiretap in summer 2016 on Page after satisfying a court that there was sufficient evidence to show Page was operating as a Russian asset,” the piece continued.

Sipher’s updated story notes that Isikoff’s report “may have relied on Steele himself.” But he added that “U.S. intelligence officials were confident enough in the information received about Page’s meeting Russian officials to brief senior members of Congress on it.”

because it was a coup attempt. Carter Page was never charged w anything

Sipher’s analysis that the dossier was bolstered by the Justice Department obtaining authorization to surveil Page is also undercut by the IG report. In response to the report, the Justice Department conceded that two of the four surveillance warrants are “not valid.”

Orbis also cited a Dec. 14, 2018 report that Chuck Rosenberg, a former top aide to Jim Comey, wrote at Lawfare.

The dossier holds up well over time, and none of it, to our knowledge, has been disproven, Rosenberg wrote.

totally wrong

One of Steele’s most intriguing claims about Trump-Russia collusion was all but debunked shortly after Rosenberg’s article came out.

In the dossier, Steele alleged that in August 2016, then-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen visited Prague to meet with Kremlin insiders to discuss paying off hackers. Cohen vehemently denied Steele’s claims during congressional testimony in 2019, after he began cooperating with the special counsel’s investigation. The special counsel’s report also indicated that Cohen did not go to Prague.

Rosenberg has acknowledged in the wake of the damning IG report that he would have written his analysis differently.

yes, he could have written the truth instead of lies. that would have been different

“With what is out there now, I think we would have written our article a bit differently. We did the best we could with what we had at the time, he told The Washington Post on Dec. 27, 2019.

“The IG report adds important information about the provenance of the dossier (and some of that certainly calls Steele’s methodology and his raw intelligence into question),” he added.

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I've finally reached the point where I no longer give a damn about these issues.

No one involved is going to prison.

All of the fed.gov employees still get their medical and dental insurance, a hefty paycheck or retirement. The private parties involved have also suffered no meaningful repercussions.

While I support Mr. Page's lawsuit, the fact is he will be in his nineties before he sees one red cent to offset the damage done to his reputation.

Instead I am going to revel in the fact that the most qualified Presidential candidate in history (i.e., Chelsea Mezvinsky's children's father's father-in-law's wife) is not President. And, please Oh Lord, never will be.

I will pray for President Donald John Trump to continue the great work he has done, reviving the economy, reestablishing the United States of America as the global beacon of freedom... Hell, his success at appointing 187 federal judges even has me taking back some of my negative comments about Senator McConnell

I will contribute to his reelection campaign, perhaps even do some on-the-ground support stuffing envelopes, and come November 2020, I vote for him.

Other than that, I'm done.





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I've finally reached the point where I no longer give a damn about these issues.

No one involved is going to prison.

All of the fed.gov employees still get their medical and dental insurance, a hefty paycheck or retirement. The private parties involved have also suffered no meaningful repercussions.

While I support Mr. Page's lawsuit, the fact is he will be in his nineties before he sees one red cent to offset the damage done to his reputation.

Instead I am going to revel in the fact that the most qualified Presidential candidate in history (i.e., Chelsea Mezvinsky's children's father's father-in-law's wife) is not President. And, please Oh Lord, never will be.

I will pray for President Donald John Trump to continue the great work he has done, reviving the economy, reestablishing the United States of America as the global beacon of freedom... Hell, his success at appointing 187 federal judges even has me taking back some of my negative comments about Senator McConnell

I will contribute to his reelection campaign, perhaps even do some on-the-ground support stuffing envelopes, and come November 2020, I vote for him.

Other than that, I'm done.


Somebody is tired of winning.....
I try to be hopeful and have to admit that it has been easy lately as things just keep rolling Trump's way. Every day for a week or so now, I have been laughing my ass off at the leftist stooges as they keep getting kicked in the Nadlers.


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FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal

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| February 07, 2020 04:11 PM


FBI Director Christopher Wray agreed that the Justice Department and the FBI illegally surveilled Carter Page when they used British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s unverified dossier to obtain four Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants against the Trump campaign associate.

Wray made the claim during congressional testimony before the Democrat-led House Judiciary Committee earlier this week, as Republicans pressed him for answers about the bureau’s response to the Justice Department watchdog’s FISA abuse report.

The report by Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz concluded that the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation was flawed, and he criticized the DOJ and the FBI for 17 “significant errors and omissions” related to secret surveillance court filings targeting Page. The filings made use of the dossier compiled by Steele, who’d been hired by Fusion GPS, which in turn was hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign through the Perkins Coie law firm.

Under questioning from Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe of Texas, Wray, who deflected many questions by referring lawmakers back to Horowitz’s report, agreed that Page was surveilled illegally.

“The report acknowledges that ... this was illegal surveillance with respect to at least several of these FISA applications, because there was not probable cause or proper predication, correct?” Ratcliffe asked.

“Right,” Wray replied.

Ratcliffe was referring to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court revelation that, in the wake of Horowitz’s report, the DOJ told the FISA court it believed the final two Page FISA warrants were invalid but were still reviewing the first two. The FBI also told the court it was trying to sequester all the information obtained through the Page FISA warrants.

Judge James Boasberg, the FISA court’s presiding judge, quoted the DOJ as saying that by the third and fourth warrants against Page, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

Boasberg said that “the Court understands the government to have concluded, in view of the material misstatements and omissions, that the Court's authorizations” related to the April 2017 and June 2017 Page FISA renewals “were not valid.” Thus far, the DOJ has not reached a public decision on the initial October 2016 FISA application or the January 2017 renewal.

“So to the point of one of my Democratic colleagues that there was no fraud on the court, illegal surveillance and changing evidence to conduct illegal surveillance is the very definition of fraud on the court, is it not?” Ratcliffe followed up.

“Well, I certainly think that it describes conduct that is utterly unacceptable,” Wray said. “We have accepted ... every finding in the inspector general’s report, including some that are extremely painful to us as an institution.”

In a rare public order, the FISA court criticized how the FBI handled the Page applications as "antithetical to the heightened duty of candor," and demanded an evaluation from the bureau. The FISA court also ordered a review of all FISA filings handled by Kevin Clinesmith, the FBI lawyer who altered a key document about Page in the third renewal process. He is now under criminal investigation by U.S. Attorney John Durham, a prosecutor from Connecticut who was tasked by Attorney General William Barr with investigating the Trump-Russia inquiry.


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FBI director admits: Yes, surveillance of Carter Page was illegal

https://www.washingtonexaminer...uvsCcf-sUZVW1wMoAA4Q


| February 07, 2020 04:11 PM


FBI Director Christopher Wray agreed that the Justice Department and the FBI illegally surveilled Carter Page when they used British ex-spy Christopher Steele’s unverified dossier to obtain four Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants against the Trump campaign associate.

Wray made the claim during congressional testimony before the Democrat-led House Judiciary Committee earlier this week, as Republicans pressed him for answers about the bureau’s response to the Justice Department watchdog’s FISA abuse report.

The report by Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz concluded that the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation was flawed, and he criticized the DOJ and the FBI for 17 “significant errors and omissions” related to secret surveillance court filings targeting Page. The filings made use of the dossier compiled by Steele, who’d been hired by Fusion GPS, which in turn was hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign through the Perkins Coie law firm.

Under questioning from Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe of Texas, Wray, who deflected many questions by referring lawmakers back to Horowitz’s report, agreed that Page was surveilled illegally.

“The report acknowledges that ... this was illegal surveillance with respect to at least several of these FISA applications, because there was not probable cause or proper predication, correct?” Ratcliffe asked.

“Right,” Wray replied.

Ratcliffe was referring to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court revelation that, in the wake of Horowitz’s report, the DOJ told the FISA court it believed the final two Page FISA warrants were invalid but were still reviewing the first two. The FBI also told the court it was trying to sequester all the information obtained through the Page FISA warrants.

Judge James Boasberg, the FISA court’s presiding judge, quoted the DOJ as saying that by the third and fourth warrants against Page, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”

Boasberg said that “the Court understands the government to have concluded, in view of the material misstatements and omissions, that the Court's authorizations” related to the April 2017 and June 2017 Page FISA renewals “were not valid.” Thus far, the DOJ has not reached a public decision on the initial October 2016 FISA application or the January 2017 renewal.

“So to the point of one of my Democratic colleagues that there was no fraud on the court, illegal surveillance and changing evidence to conduct illegal surveillance is the very definition of fraud on the court, is it not?” Ratcliffe followed up.

“Well, I certainly think that it describes conduct that is utterly unacceptable,” Wray said. “We have accepted ... every finding in the inspector general’s report, including some that are extremely painful to us as an institution.”

In a rare public order, the FISA court criticized how the FBI handled the Page applications as "antithetical to the heightened duty of candor," and demanded an evaluation from the bureau. The FISA court also ordered a review of all FISA filings handled by Kevin Clinesmith, the FBI lawyer who altered a key document about Page in the third renewal process. He is now under criminal investigation by U.S. Attorney John Durham, a prosecutor from Connecticut who was tasked by Attorney General William Barr with investigating the Trump-Russia inquiry.


And boom, another one right in the Nadlers. Will this Schiff ever end...


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So, when is Durham done with his criminal investigation? I truly want to see heads roll.


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So, when is Durham done with his criminal investigation? I truly want to see heads roll.



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“Investigative reporter Sarah Carter said Friday it will be hard to defend against flimsy investigations and violations of civil liberties if Connecticut federal prosecutor John Durham's probe into the origins of the Russia investigation doesn't result in strong indictments.

Carter told "Hannity" that the known facts should help defend against a repeat of the FBI actions that ensnared former Trump campaign associate Carter Page and others during the 2016 campaign.

"The important thing to remember here is that even though Attorney General William Barr is going to have all of these new rules in place in an effort to avoid this happening in the future, I talked to sources today: Former senior FBI officials that say if there aren't indictments -- if people don't actually pay the price for what happened here -- which was an attempted coup, basically, on the president of the United States, and also just destroying the civil liberties of an American citizen, Carter Page, then what's going to stop the next person?" she told host Sean Hannity.”

www.foxnews.com/media/sara-car...ture-attempted-coups



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So, when is Durham done with his criminal investigation?

Through some twist of fate and the dems stalling- At the peak of the 2020 election cycle. Might even be in August during the conventions.

I think the dems know what they did and realize when it's going to be fully revealed to the American Public.

I just saw this on RT (I'm a russian troll Big Grin).
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Theatrical play based on Strzok/Page texts staged at CPAC gives Dems’ Mueller-mania a run for its money

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/48036...-grudges-russiagate/

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One might think the business of governing a large and complex country beset with a wide array of economic and geopolitical problems would eat up too much time for Washington habitués to cultivate veritable gardens of elaborate revenge fantasies and prodigious grudges, but that would be misjudging their priorities.


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BREAKING: Word On The Street Is There May Be Major Deep State Arrests This Week …(But Of Course We’ve Heard This Before)

The word on the street from some qualified sources is that former Deep State crooked cops are going to be arrested this week. And Lindsey Graham says “half of the Deep State” will be going to prison.

Of course we’ve heard this before… Remember Huber? We’ve also heard Senator Graham say he was going to bring in a whole batch of villains before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Lindsey has been saying this since before he took chairmanship of the committee back in 2018. But so far Lindsey has failed to bring anyone before his committee except for IG Horowitz in over a year.

But another source, the same one who first outed Ciaramella as the whistleblower, Greg Rubini on Twitter, is saying Dirty cops Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe will both be arrested this week, maybe even Monday or Tuesday

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According to reports late last year U.S. Attorney John Durham and U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr were spending time on a narrowed focus looking carefully at CIA activity in the 2016 presidential election. One quote from a media-voice increasingly sympathetic to a political deep-state noted:

“One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services””. (Link)

It is interesting that quote comes from a British intelligence official, as there appears to be mounting evidence of an extensive CIA operation that likely involved U.K. intelligence services. In addition, and as a direct outcome, there is an aspect to the CIA operation that overlaps with both a U.S. and U.K. need to keep Wikileaks founder Julian Assange under tight control. In this outline we will explain where corrupt U.S. and U.K. interests merge.

To understand the risk that Julian Assange represented to CIA interests, it is important to understand just how extensive the operations of the CIA were in 2016. It is within this network of foreign and domestic operations where FBI Agent Peter Strzok is clearly working as a bridge between the CIA and FBI operations.

By now people are familiar with the construct of CIA operations involving Joseph Mifsud, the Maltese professor now generally admitted/identified as some kind of a western intelligence operative who was tasked to run an operation against Trump campaign official George Papadopoulos in both Italy (Rome) and London. {Go Deep}

In a similar fashion the CIA tasked U.S. intelligence asset Stefan Halper to target another Trump campaign official, Carter Page. Under the auspices of being a Cambridge Professor Stefan Halper also targeted General Michael Flynn. Additionally, using assistance from a female FBI agent under the false name Azra Turk, Mr. Halper also targeted Papadopoulos.

The initial operations to target Flynn, Papadopoulos and Page were all based overseas. This seemingly makes the CIA exploitation of the assets and the targets much easier.

One of the more interesting aspects to the Durham probe is a possibility of a paper-trail created as a result of the tasking operations. We should watch closely for more evidence of a paper trail as some congressional reps have hinted toward documented evidence (transcripts, recordings, reports) that are exculpatory to the targets (Page & Papadop). HPSCI Ranking Member Devin Nunes has strongly hinted that very specific exculpatory evidence was known to the FBI and yet withheld from the FISA application used against Carter Page that also mentions George Papadopoulos. I digress…

However, there is an aspect to the domestic U.S. operation that also bears the fingerprints of the CIA; only this time due to the restrictive laws on targets inside the U.S. the CIA aspect is less prominent. This is where FBI Agent Peter Strzok working for both agencies starts to become important.

Remember, it’s clear in the text messages Strzok has a working relationship with what he called their “sister agency”, the CIA. Additionally, Brennan has admitted Strzok helped write the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) which outlines the Russia narrative; and it is almost guaranteed the July 31st, 2016, “Electronic Communication” from the CIA to the FBI that originated FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane” was co-authored from the CIA by Strzok…. and Strzok immediately used that EC to travel to London to debrief intelligence officials around Australian Ambassador to the U.K. Alexander Downer.

In short, Peter Strzok appears to be the very eager, profoundly overzealous James Bond wannabe, who acted as a bridge between the CIA and the FBI. The perfect type of FBI career agent for CIA Director John Brennan to utilize.

Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson hired CIA Open Source analyst Nellie Ohr toward the end of 2015; at appropriately the same time as “FBI Contractors” were identified exploiting the NSA database and extracting information on a specific set of U.S. persons.

It was also Fusion-GPS founder Glenn Simpson who was domestically tasked with a Russian lobbyist named Natalia Veselnitskya. A little reported Russian Deputy Attorney General named Saak Albertovich Karapetyan was working double-agents for the CIA and Kremlin. Karapetyan was directing the foreign operations of Natalia Veselnitskaya, and Glenn Simpson was organizing her inside the U.S.

Glenn Simpson managed Veselnitskaya through the 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. However, once the CIA/Fusion-GPS operation using Veselnitskaya started to unravel with public reporting… back in Russia Deputy AG Karapetyan fell out of a helicopter to his death (just before it crashed).

Simultaneously timed in late 2015 through mid 2016, there was a domestic FBI operation using a young Russian named Maria Butina tasked to run up against republican presidential candidates. According to Patrick Byrne, Butina’s handler, it was FBI agent Peter Strzok who was giving Byrne the instructions on where to send her. {Go Deep}

All of this context outlines the extent to which the CIA was openly involved in constructing a political operation that settled upon anyone in candidate Donald Trump’s orbit.

International operations directed by the CIA, and domestic operations seemingly directed by Peter Strzok operating with a foot in both agencies. [Strzok gets CIA service coin]

Recap: ♦Mifsud tasked against Papadopoulos (CIA). ♦Halper tasked against Flynn (CIA), Page (CIA), and Papadopoulos (CIA). ♦Azra Turk, pretending to be Halper asst, tasked against Papadopoulos (FBI). ♦Veselnitskaya tasked against Donald Trump Jr (CIA, Fusion-GPS). ♦Butina tasked against Trump, and Donald Trump Jr (FBI).

Additionally, Christopher Steele was a British intelligence officer, hired by Fusion-GPS to assemble and launder fraudulent intelligence information within his dossier. And we cannot forget Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch, who was recruited by Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to participate in running an operation against the Trump campaign and create the impression of Russian involvement. Deripaska refused to participate.

All of this engagement directly controlled by U.S. intelligence; and all of this intended to give a specific Russia impression. This predicate is presumably what John Durham is currently reviewing.

The key point of all that background is to see how committed the CIA and FBI were to the constructed narrative of Russia interfering with the 2016 election. The CIA, FBI, and by extension the DOJ, put a hell of a lot of work into it. Intelligence community work that Durham is now unraveling.

We also know specifically that John Durham is looking at the construct of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); and talking to CIA analysts who participated in the construct of the January 2017 report that bolstered the false appearance of Russian interference in the 2016 election. This is important because it ties in to the next part that involves Julian Assange and Wikileaks.

On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment was unsealed in the EDVA.

From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

(Link to pdf)

On Tuesday April 15th, 2019, more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….

Why the delay?

What was the DOJ waiting for?

Here’s where it gets interesting….

The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”

(August 2017, The Hill Via John Solomon) Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman on Tuesday he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican who is friendly to Russia and chairs an important House subcommittee on Eurasia policy, became the first American congressman to meet with Assange during a three-hour private gathering at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder has been holed up for years.

Rohrabacher recounted his conversation with Assange to The Hill.

“Our three-hour meeting covered a wide array of issues, including the WikiLeaks exposure of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] emails during last year’s presidential election,” Rohrabacher said, “Julian emphatically stated that the Russians were not involved in the hacking or disclosure of those emails.”

Pressed for more detail on the source of the documents, Rohrabacher said he had information to share privately with President Trump. (read more)

Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.

Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018. The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.

As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, and the EDVA indictment was unsealed (link).

As a person who has researched this three year fiasco; including the ridiculously false 2016 Russian hacking/interference narrative: “17 intelligence agencies”, Joint Analysis Report (JAR) needed for Obama’s anti-Russia narrative in December ’16; and then a month later the ridiculously political Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) in January ’17; this timing against Assange is too coincidental.

It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.

This is critical. The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.

Now Watch This Brief Interview:

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The predicate for Robert Mueller’s investigation was specifically due to Russian interference in the 2016 election. The fulcrum for this Russia interference claim is the intelligence community assessment; and the only factual evidence claimed within the ICA is that Russia hacked the DNC servers; a claim only made possible by relying on forensic computer analysis from Crowdstrike, a DNC contractor.

The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim. The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim. All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.

Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.

This Russian “hacking” claim is ultimately so important to the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI and U.K intelligence apparatus…. Well, right there is the obvious motive to shut Assange down as soon intelligence officials knew the Mueller report was going to be public.

Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.

The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?

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BREAKING: Word On The Street Is There May Be Major Deep State Arrests This Week …(But Of Course We’ve Heard This Before)

But another source, the same one who first outed Ciaramella as the whistleblower, Greg Rubini on Twitter, is saying Dirty cops Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe will both be arrested this week, maybe even Monday or Tuesday



Does Trump have any Baptisms to attend this week?




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Lisa Page tweeting again

"What we each share, despite our differences, is a lifetime of service to our country. We are civil servants who dared to rebuke this president."

A lifetime of service by Lisa Page. What a fraud. Lisa Page and Strzok texted about how she could cash in as a high paid private lawyer if she was part of the head hunting team that brought down Donald Trump.

She wasn't interested in "service" she was interested in getting rich.

Is "rebuke" the proper term for plotting and executing a coup attempt to over turn the 2016 election ?

You know, the election that the "Russians" so "Severely" interfered with.

did the Russians plant spies to trap the Trump campaign?

did the Russians lie to the FISA court ( for 4 warrants)

did the Russians ruin multiple people's lives to force them to testify against the President ?

did the Russians write a bullshit 400 page report that was one of the most grossly distorted, exaggerated and untruthful ones ever signed by one Robert Mueller ?
 
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Government Recommends Up To 9 Years In Prison For Roger Stone

https://dailycaller.com/2020/0...-prison-roger-stone/

Federal prosecutors in Washington, D.C., on Monday recommended that longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone serve up to nine years in prison following his conviction on false statements and witness tampering charges related to the Russia investigation.

In their court filing, prosecutors asserted that Stone deserved the multi-year sentence because “[f]oreign election interference is the ‘most deadly adversar[y] of republican government .'”


??? Clinton campaign / Fusion GPS / Christopher Steele / Russian false sources

But despite linking Stone to foreign election meddling, the 67-year-old Republican political operative was never charged with working with Russia to influence the 2016 election

Instead, the charges against Stone involved his testimony to the House Intelligence Committee about his interactions with associates regarding the topic of WikiLeaks, which released emails hacked from Democrats in 2016. Prosecutors said that Stone lied when he denied speaking with anyone on the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks.

Stone was also convicted on charges that he obstructed the House investigation and tampered with a potential witness, Randy Credico.

Despite Democrats’ and the special counsel’s initial suspicions that Stone conspired with Russia or WikiLeaks, investigators found no evidence that the Trump associate had direct contact with anyone involved in stealing or disseminating Democrats’ emails.

The special counsel’s report said that investigators found no evidence that any Trump associates worked with Russia or WikiLeaks to release Democrats’ emails.

Prosecutors, who recommended that Stone serve 87 months in jail at a minimum, argued in their filing that Stone, who was convicted at trial on Nov. 15, should serve additional jail time because of threatening messages he sent to Credico, a left-wing comedian who Stone has known since 2002.

Prosecutors alleged that Stone pressured Credico to plead the Fifth in order to avoid testifying to the House or special counsel about their discussions regarding WikiLeaks.

Stone told Credico in an April 2018 text message: “Prepare to die cocksucker.”

Stone told House investigators that Credico was a source of information for him regarding the timeline of when WikiLeaks would release information damaging to the Clinton campaign. Credico, who was close friends with a WikiLeaks lawyer, has long denied being a source of information for Stone regarding WikiLeaks.

Despite Credico’s denials, text messages that he sent Stone in the days before WikiLeaks began releasing former Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails suggest that he had at least some prior knowledge that negative information for the Clinton campaign would be released.

Credico, who testified at Stone’s trial, asked Judge Amy Berman Jackson in a letter on Jan. 20 asking her to sentence Stone only to probation, without jail time. He testified at trial and said in the letter that he did not feel physically threatened by Stone’s threats.

Prosecutors downplayed Credico’s letter in their sentencing recommendation.

“Stone may point to the letter submitted by Credico and argue that he did not have a serious plan to harm Credico or that Credico did not seriously believe that Stone would follow through on his threats. But Credico testified that Stone’s threats concerned him because he was worried that Stone’s words, if repeated in public, might make ‘other people get ideas,'” they argued.

“In any event, it is the threat itself, not the likelihood of carrying out the threat, that triggers the enhancement,” prosecutors said.

Stone is likely to get a lighter sentence than what prosecutors are recommending, and President Donald Trump has not ruled out pardoning his longtime friend.

Prosecutors who handled the case of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort recommended that he serve nearly 25 years in prison on a slew of tax evasion and bank fraud charges. He was ultimately sentenced to 7.5 years in jail.
 
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Federal Judge Postpones Michael Flynn’s Sentencing After Court Documents Showed How Gov’t ‘Lied’ and ‘Framed’ Him

Flynn may still be able to get justice in the courts after his railroading.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...lied-and-framed-him/

A federal judge has indefinitely postponed the sentencing for General Michael Flynn after he filed to remove his guilty plea and shocking court documents have been released showing how the federal government “lied” and “framed” him.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled on Monday that Flynn’s sentencing hearing had been cancelled “until further order of the court.” It was previously scheduled to take place on Feb. 27.

Last month, Flynn’s attorney Sidney Powell filed a 27-page brief detailing the “egregious government misconduct” that took place in the case against Flynn, which was related to the dubious Russian collusion investigation. Powell is calling for dismissal of the case “in the interest of justice.” The decision by Sullivan shows that there may be serious merit to her explosive claims.

Trending: HMM: Former Mitt Romney Adviser Sits on Board of Ukrainian Gas Company That Employed Hunter Biden

Powell produced evidence in the filing which showed that the feds lied to Flynn, misled him, “framed” him, obscured evidence that could have helped him build his case, and showed “contempt for the law at every turn” in how they went about their investigation and prosecution of the retired three-star Army general.

Flynn has also reconsidered his guilty plea, alleging that the plea deal that he signed onto was offered to him in bad faith.

“In truth, I never lied,” Flynn wrote in a his motion to withdraw his guilty plea that was filed last month, according to Fox News. “My guilty plea has rankled me throughout this process, and while I allowed myself to succumb to the threats from the government to save my family, I believe I was grossly misled about what really happened.”

Powell maintains that her client is completely innocent and intends to prove it in court. She wrote that the “IG Report is replete with exculpatory information that, had it been known to Mr. Flynn, he never would have pled guilty.”

The IG report was released by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz in Dec. 2019 after Flynn had already taken the plea deal. It showed systemic incompetence and corruption in how the feds handled the special counsel into Russian collusion.

“Flynn is one of the four original targeted by Crossfire Hurricane and unmasked by previous administration because of ‘his purported ties to Russia,'” Powell wrote in the filing.

Powell replaced Flynn’s previous lawyers, who she alleges were likely in on the deep state scam to railroad Flynn. They “grossly misled” Flynn, which caused a miscarriage of justice, according to her filing. Flynn may have a fresh shot at receiving justice because of these new revelations.

“The government’s suppression of evidence, drove a three-star-military veteran of multiple conflicts to plead to a crime he did not believe he committed. It now raises the foremost intelligence officer of this generation, a combat veteran and war hero, will spend time behind bars. This is not only manifestly unjust, it makes a mockery of Brady [exonerating evidence] and due process,” Powell said in the filing.

Flynn may be able to restore his damaged reputation, and show the deep state that there are limits to how they can exert their illicit power to crush their political opponents.


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