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Rep. Goodlatte: ‘Smoking Gun’ Emails Prove Settlement Money Was Progressive Slush Fund
John SextonPosted at 5:01 pm on October 25, 2017

“It is not every day in congressional investigations that we find a smoking gun,” Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee Bob Goodlatte said Tuesday on the House floor. Goodlatte revealed emails which he says prove the Obama Department of Justice used settlement money as a slush fund for progressive groups. From Fox News:

While Eric Holder was U.S. attorney general, the Justice Department allowed prosecutors to strike agreements compelling big companies to give money to outside groups not connected to their cases to meet settlement burdens. Republican lawmakers long have decried those payments as a “slush fund” that boosted liberal groups, and the Trump DOJ ended the practice earlier this year.

But internal Justice Department emails released Tuesday by Goodlatte indicated that not only were officials involved in determining what organizations would get the money, but also Justice Department officials may have intervened to make sure the settlements didn’t go to conservative groups…

“Concerns include: a) not allowing Citi to pick a statewide intermediary like the Pacific Legal Foundation (does conservative property-rights legal services) ,” the official, whose name is redacted in the email, wrote under the title of “Acting Senior Counselor for Access to Justice.”

The official added that “we are more likely to get the right result from a state bar association affiliated entity.”

In response, the Pacific Legal Foundation told Fox News, “We are flattered that the previous administration would be concerned enough about our success vindicating individual liberty and property rights to prevent settlement funds from making their way to Pacific Legal Foundation.”

Goodlatte pointed to another email which specifically identified former Associate Attorney General Tony West (now a VP at Pepsi) as the person responsible for making sure the money went to the correct organizations. “Can you explain to Tony the best way to allocate some money to an organization of our choosing?” one of West’s deputies wrote in 2013.

In a piece published by Forbes, Americans for Limited Government president Rick Manning said, “The Justice Department emails released by Goodlatte show that only approved left-wing groups were eligible for the banks to make payouts to as part of their settlements, overtly excluding deemed to be too conservative. ” He added, “What’s worse, is that the settlements often gave the banks double credit if they gave money to the left-wing groups rather than paying the government. Meaning, every $10 million to left-wing groups was counted the same as $20 million to the government.

An investigation by Rep. Goodlatte’s committee found that over two years the Obama DOJ directed approximately $1 billion to various outside organizations from settlements. In January Goodlatte’s committee requested the DOJ preserve all documents, including emails, related to the settlement money. After Rep. Goodlatte spoke about the emails on the House floor Tuesday, the House voted 238-183 to pass the Stop Settlement Slush Funds Act of 2017.


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Very olde news. Multiple threads weee posted here when the commies were doing it.




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Very olde news. Multiple threads weee posted here when the commies were doing it.


It's one thing to observe something and 'know' what's going on. It's quite another to have proof that it was being directed from above. This is a new revelation.



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Very olde news. Multiple threads weee posted here when the commies were doing it.


It's one thing to observe something and 'know' what's going on. It's quite another to have proof that it was being directed from above. This is a new revelation.


How so? Every bit of the above information were in the other articles. There is nothing new, or revealing there.




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Very olde news. Multiple threads weee posted here when the commies were doing it.


How Clintonian!

This was one of the outrages of all times. First, the Feds insisted, required, these banks to make hideously improvident loans, then blamed the banks when the whole stinking scheme collapsed, and extorted billions in damages from the hapless banks, not a dime of which went to any victims, really, merely a slush fund for favored GDC projects, lke ACORN and similar.




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How so? Every bit of the above information were in the other articles. There is nothing new, or revealing there.


You'll have to post some links - everyone was up in arms that these monies were being directed exclusively to liberal groups, however the line from above was that it was completely apolitical and it was all completely fair how the money was being distributed.

These emails show that to be a lie.

If you've seen them before, please post links to the articles, I've not seen them.



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I don't really care enough to search. You guys are right. This is all fresh, never been seen before outrage.

Enjoy the pitchforks and torches.




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It's just like any other crime when you 'know' who the guilty party is but have no evidence to arrest or charge. Then you find the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it. In this case there is now evidence to support the claim that was being made.

No outrage, pitchforks or torches - just confirmation of the crime.



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Thanks for posting this up sjtill.

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It's just like any other crime when you 'know' who the guilty party is but have no evidence to arrest or charge. Then you find the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it. In this case there is now evidence to support the claim that was being made.

No outrage, pitchforks or torches - just confirmation of the crime.


I like confirmation.




 
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I, too, thank you for the post, sjtill. Pipe Smoker predicts that the MSM won't report it.



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Yes, old news. I hated it at the time and still do. New news would be if AG Sessions prosecutes those responsible for the extortion, and abuse of office. CFR 14... something and the Code of Ethics.


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I had heard of these allegations, but checked to be sure there was something new here, which is this being discussed in Congress, with this result:
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After Rep. Goodlatte spoke about the emails on the House floor Tuesday, the House voted 238-183 to pass the Stop Settlement Slush Funds Act of 2017.

In addition, there is news in the article that the Trump administration has ended this practice.

So we not only have confirmation of what he had heard already; we have news of two responses, one from the administration, one from Congress.

I could have titled the post better to reflect that.


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Yeah, but, y'know, we've heard it all before.

This crap ran very, very deep. The Dems are counting on no one giving a damn to ensure that it all goes away quietly. Would anyone like to argue that giving them what they want is a sign of sophistication?
 
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Evidently 183 members of congress don't have a problem with it.



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No outrage, pitchforks or torches - just confirmation of the crime.



I thought we were in the rope makers and guillotine builder division.





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Evidently 183 members of congress don't have a problem with it.

And yet there are 194 Democrats in Congress. Apparently the caring is bipartisan.
 
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How so? Every bit of the above information were in the other articles. There is nothing new, or revealing there.


You'll have to post some links - everyone was up in arms that these monies were being directed exclusively to liberal groups, however the line from above was that it was completely apolitical and it was all completely fair how the money was being distributed.

These emails show that to be a lie.

If you've seen them before, please post links to the articles, I've not seen them.

Not only was it known, it was set up so that those being blackmailed by the USG paying the fines had a choice of paying the full amount to the government, or only half that amount if payment went to the chosen leftist goons to the organizations on the DOJ's approved list. 2016 link - example 2 for 1 deal

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The donations were a good deal for Bank of America. For every dollar the bank gives, an independent monitor for the deal credits the bank with $2 toward the record $16.6 billion settlement with the Justice Department on financial fraud charges it signed in August 2014. To date, the donations have reduced that penalty by $138 million.

Ordinarily, this practice would be illegal. Not on the bank's part, but on the government's. Federal law says that any funds obtained by a government official, such as a Justice Department prosecutor, must be deposited with the Treasury Department. Officials cannot instruct anybody making a payment to direct the funds anywhere else, much less offer them a deal if they do.


Now, if you're saying that they had conservative organizations on that list in the first place, and just denied blackmailed parties banks an opportunity to choose those, that'd be news, and it's good there's a name and an email trail. But when I looked at the organization list a few years back, it didn't seem like there were any conservative options.

The denials about how this was business as usual and legal didn't hold water then, and don't hold water now. The structure was set up specifically to extort the money to get those 'donations' lined up and offset credits calculated before things became official.
 
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This needs to be made illegal.

Right after the DOJ directs several billion dollars to NRA, Family Research Council, etc.




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Somehow I missed this before, but how the hell does settlement money get funneled to anyone other than victims or the US Government?




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Somehow I missed this before, but how the hell does settlement money get funneled to anyone other than victims or the US Government?

Sometimes required for regulatory approvals.




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