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Great attitude, BBMW! :roll eyes:

I think you'll find yourself wrong on this one.




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Regardless if they are coming 'right' or just splitting and distancing themselves from the regressive Leftists, it's a good thing.
 
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^^^

Yes.

"Trust, but verify." (as 40 said)

America needs all the non-GDCs it can get.

If we scorn them when they leave and give them no place, we may well not like the place they choose.

There are some who simply will not accept that not everyone is a mirror copy of themselves, and are unwilling to put aside the things that make them different, for the things that make them allies.

"Rejectionists".

When were were children on the playground, we called them crybabies.




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Here’s a better indicator - only 10% of the eligible Democrats even bothered to vote in that primary.

That's not terribly unusual in a primary, especially a primary in a one-party district where the incumbent is simply assumed to be a shoe-in in the general election. That young lady's campaign may have caught the old Dem bulls napping.


This. And let's remember we're talking about NYC which is an island in the literal sense, in that it's waaay left of most of the rest of America. They think they're smarter and know better - and how many votes did she capture because of her ethnicity, much as many folks voted for Obama because of his race? IMO the victory of that Socialist in that election is a complete anomaly compared to what's happening in the Country.

The very fact that DJT is our President to me signifies that many traditional Dems voted for him, much as many crossed the aisle to vote for Reagan. In fact, if you were alive and cognizant of what was happening in the Country at that time, as I was - the similarities between Trump's win and Reagan's win are striking. From the way Reagan was treated in the press (Ronnie Ray-gun, "TV actor, what does he know?", "doesn't know anything about foreign policy, the Russian will eat him alive", etc. etc. - right down to Reagan's landslide re-election victory in '84 - again, I say the similarities are striking!

People vote with their wallets, and on that note Americans are doing well from the stock market to low unemployment, etc. Plus I firmly believe that many of the liberals are maybe not as far gone as we thought - they're seeing the Dem hate, the bullshit accusations of Fascism and racism, etc. being leveled at Trump and the R's - and the polls seem to bear out that by and large folks have lost faith in the traditional media outlets and are letting their own eyes tell them the story.

All good stuff. The Lib politicos are tearing themselves up from the inside out, and many folks are seeing them for what they are - the true racemongers, hateful, deceitful and doing anything they can to stay and claim more power, no matter who they hurt. I'm happy to say it seems like folks aren't maybe as dumb as we gave them credit for, and are being WOKE in the best of ways. Cool


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The very fact that DJT is our President to me signifies that many traditional Dems voted for him, much as many crossed the aisle to vote for Reagan.


I would really love to believe that. But, I'm afraid what happened in 2016 was that the Bernie followers were so completely disgusted and angry about how Hillary stole the nomination from Bernie that they just stayed home and didn't vote at all. Trump DID capture some Democrat votes, but I sadly believe that if Bernie had gotten the nomination - as he deserved - Trump might not have won.



I found what you said riveting.
 
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I might. I wouldn't mind being wrong. But I don't think I am.

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Great attitude, BBMW! :roll eyes:

I think you'll find yourself wrong on this one.
 
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And it gets weirder or funnier or more pathetic or something...

From "Maxine Waters On Criticism From Schumer: Leadership Will Do Anything To Protect Their Power", Justin Wise, The Hill, 7/1/2018:

Maxine's just fightin' the power:

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"You know, I was surprised at Chuck Schumer, you know reached into the other house to do that," Waters said when asked by MSNBC host Joy Reid if she was surprised to see leaders of her own party criticizing her. "I've not quite seen that done before. But one of the things I recognize, being an elected official, is in the final analysis, you know, leadership will do anything that they think is necessary to protect their leadership."


I suppose she meant "leadership positions", but I'm not sure what kind of threat to their leadership positions Maxine sees. After all, they just don't want to get harassed by the Republican backlash to the way Trump Administration officials have been treated in public restaurants.

Still, Maxine's got something for the street, too.

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"I know that there are those who are talking about censuring me, talking about kicking me out of Congress, talking about shooting me, talking about hanging me," Waters told a crowd in Los Angeles. "All I have to say it this, if you shoot me you better shoot straight, there's nothing like a wounded animal."

Both quotes at http://thehill.com/homenews/me...hip-will-do-anything

I'm going to assume she isn't actually talking about getting shot so much as she's talking about people trying to censure her or get her kicked out of Congress, simply because those are the only circumstances in which I can see Maxine being dangerous as a wounded animal. And if she wants to go after Chuckie Schumer and perhaps Nancy Pelosi (who seems to agree with Schumer on this point), then I think she oughtta just give 'em every bit of wounded animal that she can muster.
 
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I might. I wouldn't mind being wrong. But I don't think I am.

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Great attitude, BBMW! :roll eyes:

I think you'll find yourself wrong on this one.


It's not about being right or wrong. It's about having the wisdom to see that people, who historically have been very left, have been knocked off of top dead center and having the courage to reach out and converse with them.


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Just say


Best to engage them. Personally, I'm more of a Constitutionalist/Libertarian than a 'conservative'. Though I don't think the GOP has embraced true conservatism for quite some time. But from the one article about the guy from Africa, to him OZippyCAIR appears to be one of the "Intolerable Acts". Maybe that group can go back towards the constitution. All the current "liberals" (more rightly called "Progressives" as POSHitlary referred to herself) want to use the brute force of government to silence opposition, eliminate our rights that the government were supposed to protect under the 2nd Amendment, and have limitless power to do what they feel is best to better society to protect their power and privilege. Perhaps they may wake up and see that IF the government were actually held to account on how well they uphold the constitution and protect those freedoms they were chartered to protect, they would be found sorely wanting.


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I grew up in a democrat family. Union member dad was rather demanding of it when the rare topic of politics came up. I voiced some conservative views to school mates and would be shamed into silence. I voiced some conservative views at church and would be shamed into silence. I gave in after high school when fiends and professors would shame my then silenced views and I simply joined in. I gave in to the brainwashing. I did. I admit it. I was weak.

Then while working at a new job one guy challenged me. He said my views lined up with conservative values and asked me to think about why I'm a democrat. The fact is I just never thought about it very much and when I did, I'd get brow-beaten and shamed.

I walked away from the Democratic party that year, 1989.
 
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Mark123,

I used to work in collections and was one of the few white people on my team. During the run up to the 2012 election I convinced my team to take a political quiz during a slow day. A lot of “Democrats” were surprised to see ideologically they align with the Republican Party more than the democrat party. It started a rather interesting conversation on why black people vote democrat in such large percentages.


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and never will be.


My mother used to tick me off by replying to statements such as this by saying, "'Never' is a very, very long time."

I've learned to never say never. Smile




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A true form of Libertarianism is needed for both sides. If you want to be a GDC, go be one in your own commune. If you want to be gay, go be gay. If you want to own and carry guns, own and carry guns. The key is, disable .gov to force any of these thing on you.

Unfortunately the modern libertarian party is stuck in park with weed, and killing the Fed. It’s got to start with individual liberties at the Federal level. The LP seem to be on an anarchist bend instead of a Constitutional one. The 10th amendment allows for the individual States to do things the LP doesn’t jive with.

It has to start at the Federal level, then the LP can work on the legislation at the State level. Until they can figure that out, they will continue to be the party of loons.


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As encouraged as I am by this movement, I take exception to the original post, which claimed there are "tons of them."

There are not.

Facebook reports that the #WalkAway campaign has 32,326 likes.

The Democrat Party has some 72 MILLION registered voters. 32k is a mere 0.04%. That's hardly "tons."

Sorry to throw cold water on your party.




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Some of y’all should try this thing called optimism. People walking away from the democrat plantation where they cultivate hate is a good thing. Maybe those numbers will continue to grow.


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Some of y’all should try this thing called optimism.


Oh, come on! What fun is that?
Cynicism, gloom and doom are much more soul-satisfying. Roll Eyes




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Growing #Walkaway movement may threaten Dems
By Thomas Lifson
Could a gay hairdresser from New York City set off a mass exodus from the Democratic Party? A hashtag and a growing wave (not a blue one) of videos on YouTube and Facebook signal that the Democrats finally have gotten too crazy for at least some of their formerly faithful supporters. Celina Farber of the Epoch Times catalogues a growing wave of revolt against Democrats’ embrace of socialism and no borders and general insanity under the rubric of #Walkaway:



When actor James Woods tweeted out the hashtag “#WalkAway” in late June, even the alt-right missed the enormity of what lay beneath it. The Democratic Party had, in fact, struck an iceberg.


Some 5 million people on Facebook and YouTube have seen the video by now. A very handsome gay man, who you just assume is about to scold you on progressive talking points, instead says this:

“Once upon a time, I was a liberal. Well, to be honest, less than a year ago, I was still a liberal.

“I reject a system which allows an ambitious, misinformed and dogmatic mob to suppress free speech, create false narratives, and apathetically steamroll over the truth.”





That man is named:

Brandon Straka, the unlikely liberator and new face of the “silent minority” of Americans who’ve been cast out by family and friends, fired from jobs, and forced into silent social ghettos for their failure to “get it” about how hateful and dangerous Donald Trump is, and why he and all his supporters should be subjected to an ever-expanding social and professional fatwah.

Since Straka published his confessional video on May 26, his life as a New York City hairdresser and aspiring actor has been overtaken by a tidal wave.

While speaking to The Epoch Times about the explosion of his #WalkAway campaign, Straka had to occasionally stop to go style a client’s hair, all while fielding a constant barrage of newcomers’ testimonial letters, videos, and emails—over 1,000 a day.

It is always difficult to extrapolate from social media popularity to mass impact at the polls, there may well be an “emperor has no clothes” effect for all those suburban soccer moms that are supposed to be appalled by Donald Trump, who are also seeing Maxine Waters call for harassment of Trump administration officials and are not anxious to throw open the borders. They don’t have to vote for Republicans in the midterms (though that would be nice), all they have to do is not vote at all, “walking away” from a party that has lost its mind.

We have more than four months left before the election. That is time for this movement to become well known among habitual Democratic voters taken aback at the descent into madness of their former political party.




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and never will be.

My mother used to tick me off by replying to statements such as this by saying, "'Never' is a very, very long time."

I've learned to never say never. Smile

So have I--for most things.

I'm over 67 years old. I've maintained essentially the same philosophical PoV since I was a teenager.

I doubt that's going to change at this point Wink



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As encouraged as I am by this movement, I take exception to the original post, which claimed there are "tons of them."

There are not.

Facebook reports that the #WalkAway campaign has 32,326 likes.

The Democrat Party has some 72 MILLION registered voters. 32k is a mere 0.04%. That's hardly "tons."

Sorry to throw cold water on your party.


Just to put a fine point on this, I was referring to the testimonial posts (tagged #WalkAway) - on why people left or are leaving the Democratic Party - not the number of likes of that Facebook page.

However, I did notice and agree that the number of likes for the movement's Facebook page is seemingly low.

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If you search Facebook or Twitter on the hashtag #WalkAway, the posts are testimonials of people on why they left or are leaving the Democratic Party. There are tons of them!



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