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Originally posted by parabellum:

AND NO MORE PAPER BALLOTS.

This would be ideal. At the very least one ballot per registered voter per precinct, no more, no less. Serial numbered like currency, same tracking as currency. X- amount of registered voters at a precinct did not vote, then X-amount of ballots returned. None of this bullshit of boxes of blank ballots. The only absentee voting I would support is for troops overseas, yet that can be eliminated and electronic in its place.

And absolutely no provisional voting or early voting whatsoever.

I'm all for photo ID to vote but if you want to eliminate absentee and/or early voting you need to make the election days a national "day of rest" so no one can be excluded. I had to vote absentee this year for the first time in my life. I chose to do it in person at my local City Hall. The obvious voter bias of the clerk makes me wonder how many of my type votes trully make it through that process. I would prefer to vote in person but I'm in classes 150 miles away from home 3 days each week, which landed on election day this year. I can't be the only one. What about truck drivers, aircrews, or the people working the polls? I'm sure there is others. I know the officials that work my polls don't live in my ward or district.

Fine. Everyone is off from work on voting day.....even if you don't or can't vote.

not gonna like the answer

voter ID card with a photo and a chip thats tied to a national registry of legitimate voters

to get the card you MUST PROVE CITIZENSHIP

no more early ballots, no more absentee ballots, no more voting in multiple jurisdictions as students like to do when they're in college - register to vote in two states

election tampering and voter fraud must be prosecuted the same as a capital murder crime with special circumstances - life in prison, but at hard labor

illegal caught voting - life in prison, hard labor

we want to get our country under control, we need to have the balls to do it

no more games, no more boxes of ballots that mysteriously appear after the polls close - those aren't votes.

the ONLY exception to the requirement to vote at a polling place is for the military serving overseas

I'm not sure getting rid of paper solves the problem - with the electronic machines how many stories have we heard about the machine switching votes from republican to democrat - how do we never hear of votes being switched from democrat to republican?

Only conservatives may vote?

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Piece of cake. No voting rights if you receive welfare benefits. No voting rights if you are illegally in the US. No voting rights if you are a felon. No voting rights if you are not a land owner or business owner or in the military. Voter registration completed 6 months in advance. State issued ID present at polls. Voting in person only. No early voting. No e-voting. Ballots not in place within 24 hours voting day or having moved outside the chain of custody are not counted. Counting in public with three or more witnesses.



This will never happen.

I'd rethink the bolded part if I were you, because that's me you're talking about. Being a net payer of taxes is an acceptable substitute.

Voter ID is the big one.

ID gets scanned when you insert it into the machine. You vote and move on. Numbers of IDs scanned must match ballots cast. Numbers of both are available in real time and to the public.

Only absentee voting is for the military.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Only conservatives may vote?

... there you go! Problem solved!

How to repair and restore faith?

STEP ONE - re-elect Trump.

To complete step ONE, START NOW for the 2020 elections.

You can bet the dems are planning now. The 2018 midterms are a wake up call.

Thank you all for your thoughts. I like the concept of some solid form of voter I.D. and the possibility of serialized traceable ballots.

The issues of severe penalties for voter fraud appeals as well.

Thanks,

RMD

Voter ID is an absolute MUST! Any proponents of voter ID legislation should air this video before attempting to get it done. This video should really upset African-Americans who actually believe that Liberals/Democrats hold any regard for them.

Judges ("progressive") are a big part of the problem...


Let’s cut to the chase and have the judges vote for us

Daniel Horowitz

The outcome of elections, like every other national question, is now determined by an assorted sample of unelected federal judges. So why even have elections? At this rate, we should just ask the judges to vote for us.

Courts exist to adjudicate cases under the law. For example, if two companies have a dispute or if I sue my neighbor for damaging my car, we go to court, not to Congress or a state legislature. But if we have a dispute over an issue that determines the outcome of the broadest public policy, cultural, and civic questions, we go to a legislature. That is what distinguishes us as a republic from a judicial version of North Korea. But now the judges are monopolizing the ultimate political question – election law. They are vitiating state law and determining the outcome of all elections – in favor of one party, of course.

What we are seeing in Georgia and Florida is Democrats using the liberal courts to mandate that states accept ballots that are either tardy or otherwise invalid pursuant to state law. Now a judge has ordered the recount in Florida to be extended. Who needs state governments when we have federal judges unilaterally vested with more power than all of Congress and the president put together?

States, not the federal courts, were given control over qualifications and process of elections

All elections must have standards. The Constitution leaves the decisions over the methods, process, and procedures of elections with the states. The structure of the ballots, the nature of the polling stations, the process of absentee ballots, standards governing unclear and anomalous ballots, and verification against fraud are all issues left to the states. The Election Clause (Art. I, §4, cl. 1) does give Congress, not the federal courts, power to intervene when necessary. According to Hamilton in Federalist No. 59, it was only to be in extraordinary circumstances, and it was primarily for the purpose of ensuring that elections are indeed held and Congress is not abolished altogether by the states.

Congress intervened in state election law during the 1860s to ensure that freed slaves weren’t denied the right to vote, and they passed other laws a century later to ensure that the states were complying with the Reconstruction-era constitutional amendments. Aside from those narrowly designed interventions, nothing fundamentally altered the control of states over election matters. Senator Jacob Howard, one of the prime drafters of the 14th Amendment, made it clear during the floor debate in 1866: “The second section leaves the right to regulate the elective franchise still with the States, and does not meddle with that right.”

As Justice Thomas said in Evenwel v. Abbott, “None of the Reconstruction Amendments changed the original understanding of republican government.” And that original understanding as it relates to election law was that states should control the methods and procedures of elections because “it was found necessary to leave the regulation of [federal elections], in the first place, to the state governments, as being best acquainted with the situation of the people,” as Madison said at the Virginian Ratifying Convention.

Thus, we are left, more or less, with the original constitutional design from Art. I §2 and the 17th Amendment – that states control the qualifications of the electors of the electoral college and those who can vote in congressional elections. As Justice Thomas said in Arizona v. The Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, Inc., “It was well understood that congressional power to regulate the “Manner” of elections under Article I, §4, did not include the power to override state voter qualifications under Article I, §2.”

The courts crown themselves king over elections

Over time, Congress did need to ensure that the narrow Reconstruction-era amendments were enforced. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was designed to combat real discrimination against black American voters during the Jim Crow days of the South. Yet much like the 14th Amendment and other civil rights-era legislation (both in the 19th and 20th centuries), the Left and the courts are twisting the interpretation of the VRA to crush the states. Beginning with the Baker v. Carr decision and in many subsequent decisions, the federal courts have taken over election law from Congress. Even though Art. I §4 gives Congress the power to police the states and even though §5 of the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to enforce the Reconstruction-era Amendments, the courts always read the word “judiciary” in place of “Congress.”

Many observers thought that the 2013 Shelby County case, wherein the court struck down one provision of the Voting Rights Act, would lead to an era of states having more control over election law. Quite the contrary — it has led to successful lawsuits striking down every aspect of state law. We’ve seen the courts in recent months nullify every Republican redistricting map; mandate weeks of early voting; prevent states from asking for photo ID at the polls or verifying proof of citizenship for voter registration; block states from combatting voter fraud; block states from cleaning dirty voter rolls; and generally require the implementation of any administrative method or procedure of voting that is preferred by Democrats.

The Supreme Court has failed to police these lower courts. Adding insult to injury, the other two branches of government as well as our entire body politic believe any random federal judge can control and vitiate commonsense state election law.

In short, the courts — at the behest of the ACLU — have abused the VRA to ensure that Republicans can never win a close election because they require laws that both favor Democrat GOTV over Republicans and prevent states from combatting voter fraud. Hence, a law that was designed to stop the disenfranchisement of black voters is now used to disenfranchise all citizens — black and white — by invalidating voter ID laws and other measures designed to screen out non-citizen voters and voter fraud.

The notion that the federal government could get involved in the number of days of voter registration and voter qualification issues would have been foreign to our Founders. Even if we defend the continuation of the Voting Rights Act’s interventions because they were needed decades ago to stop Jim Crow laws, it is simply against the spirit of the Constitution for the courts to apply those laws beyond their original intent.

Yet here we are, with the courts vitiating one election law after another to tip the balance of power to Democrats. What they do is create an insurance policy by deliberately getting fraudulent voters, ineligible voters, voters without the proper residency and documentation, erroneously gathered absentee ballots, and even non-citizens to cast provisional ballots up front. Federal law does require states to offer provisional ballots, but states were left to determine the regulations and specific application. That is, until the courts came in and started mandating who must be accepted and under which circumstances.

Consequently, Democrats accrue piles of thousands of ineligible voters throughout an election with absentee ballots and on Election Day with provisional ballots. As soon as they see the results within striking distance, they get a federal judge to mandate the counting of those votes. We are living through an electoral trend of increasingly close races with a polarized country, and unless this judicial supremacy is mitigated, Republicans will lose every important election because of the breakdown of the rule of law and uniform and fraud-proof standards.

Nobody put it better than Marco Rubio:

Marco Rubio ✔
@marcorubio

Imagine if NFL team was trailing 24-22 but in final seconds hits a 3 pt kick to win. Then AFTER game lawyers for losing team get a judge to order rules changed so that last second field goals are only 1 point
Well that’s how democrat lawyers plan to steal #Florida election 1/4

And indeed, if we are prepared to vest the power of determining the score in the unelected branch of government, we are left with nothing but a judicial North Korea.

https://www.conservativereview...-judges-vote-for-us/

Voter ID and universal background check for all voters and election officials.

South Carolina Representative, Nancy Mace, questioning a witness from Texas about Voter ID. I’m sorry to say, I couldn’t identify the black woman testifying.

Undeniably true, but I didn’t feel like that video deserved a new thread, so I searched for “voter ID” in a thread and found this one. Rep. Mace just started her second term in Congress and she did a nice job here.

Just pokin’ fun at you.

People like Kari Lake should continue being vocal. I admire her for that. And I want all the Republicans in office to work together to force election integrity as an issue. I know it's an unspoken rule but when the cheating is as blatant as any run of the mill banana republic, you either accept that you will never have any actual voting right or you fix it.

February 23, 2023
Why the 2020 Election was Unverifiable
By Joe Fried

Joe Biden acquired his job through a legal process. However, he did not earn enough verifiable votes to justify the certifications in six key swing states. This issue is addressed in my new book, but here is some of my reasoning. I have limited myself to one example of unverifiable votes for each of those swing states.

Arizona

At an Arizona Senate Committee hearing on January 24, 2022, we learned that precisely 95 percent of Maricopa County overseas military members (and their families) voted for Joe Biden. That is an amazing (as in phony) percentage, given that the overall county-wide vote was fairly even between Biden and Trump (51 to 49%). Winning the military vote in Maricopa County with a 90 percent margin strongly suggests the likelihood of fraud.

The findings were presented at the Committee hearing by Paul Harris, a corporate executive who had been asked to conduct the review during the Cyber Ninjas audit. These are key points from the presentation. (See video @ 1:53.)
• The “ballots” were simply unsourced sheets of copy paper.
• The number of ballots had jumped dramatically, from 1,600 in 2016 to 9,600 in 2020.
• Exactly 95 percent of the votes were for Joe Biden. Harris estimated that these copy paper ballots provided 8,000 net votes to Biden, who ostensibly won the state by just over 10,000 votes.
Paul Harris analyzed just one county. In Pima County, a witness named Kathleen Alby testified that “thousands” of “military faxes” were processed: “At one point that’s all that they were processing were the faxed ones.” And, as in Maricopa County, there was no chain-of-custody documentation. (See video at 8:32.)

Georgia

Garland Favorito is the head of VoterGA.org, and has a forty-year background in information technology. In a detailed press conference, Favorito and his cyber experts itemized fifteen categories of ballot irregularities found during their analysis of ballot images acquired from Fulton County, Georgia. (See video @ 27:00.)

The number of unsupportable ballots found for this one county is forty-five times larger than Biden’s margin of victory for the entire state. Here are just five of the 15 findings:
1. Although it takes one second to scan a ballot, there are over 4,000 ballots with precisely the same timestamp -- to the second. Not possible.
2. 16,034 mail-in ballot authentication (sha) files were added several days after scanning. Also impossible.
3. There are no ballot images to support 17,724 final certified recount presidential votes.
4. There are no images to support 374,128 “certified” in-person votes, which is a violation of both federal and Georgia law.
5. 132,284 mail-in ballot images have no authentication files.

Michigan

Before the 2020 election, the Michigan Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, implemented an illegal procedure that seriously undermined the integrity of the election.

Benson announced that all signatures would be presumptively valid -- even if they were only slightly similar to registration signatures. The announcement was, effectively, an invitation to fraudsters to grab all the unused ballot applications they could find or buy; and fill them out and send them in.

Trump opposed Benson’s new procedure, and he ended up winning in court -- four months after the election. In March, 2021, State Court of Claims Judge Christopher Murray: “Nowhere in this state’s election law has the Legislature indicated that signatures are to be presumed valid...”

By using an illegal standard for processing of signatures, and by announcing that new standard in advance so that fraudsters could exploit it, Benson effectively invalidated the Michigan election certification.

Nevada

Three months before the 2020 election, the Democrat administration in Nevada passed a law that gutted election controls, and made the 2020 election impossible to certify with credibility.

Under the new Nevada law, all registered voters are automatically mailed ballots (not just applications). In 2020, this created mountains of unused ballots because lots of registered voters are not interested in voting, are not necessarily citizens, may have already moved to a new location, or are already “living” in the city cemetery.

Jay Greenberg, a journalist with NeonNettle.com News, reported that thousands of ballots were being mailed to inactive voters in Democrat Clark County: “The vote-by-mail envelopes are piling up in post office trays, outside apartment complexes, and on community bulletin boards in and around Las Vegas.”

Jenny Trobiani, a Clark County postal worker, wondered: “What’s going to happen with these things, they’re not secured at all and there are thousands of them just sitting here? This just seems fraudulent to me, something stinks here.”
How hard was it to cheat in the 2020 Nevada election? In Clark County you just had to walk into any large apartment building, go to the mailbox area, scoop up a handful of ballots, sign them, and mail them in. There was no ID required, and it was very hard to fail a signature test in Nevada. That is still true today.

The new Nevada law, coupled with its lack of an ID requirement, made the 2020 election unverifiable.

Pennsylvania

When the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth certified the election on November 24, 2020, there were 202,377 more ballots cast than the number of people shown to have voted. This irrefutable fact is one of several reasons many Pennsylvania legislators wanted Vice President Mike Pence to delay counting the electoral votes on January 6, 2021.

On December 28, 2020 (well before the January 6th debacle), Pennsylvania Representative Frank Ryan issued a lengthy statement on behalf of himself and 16 other PA legislators. It had this title: “Numbers Don’t Add Up, Certification of Presidential Results Premature and in Error.”

A reading of the Pennsylvania Code (25 PA. Stat. §3154) suggests that the certification may have violated Commonwealth law. The statute states that, if there is a significant unidentified excess of votes cast over persons who voted, there must be an investigation before the votes are recorded.

There was no investigation. A spokesperson for the Pennsylvania secretary simply noted that four counties had not yet submitted their voter information.

Months after the election, the slowpoke counties finally submitted their voter information, and there no longer was a discrepancy of 202,377 votes. However, the remaining excess of ballots over voters was (and is) over 90,000, and that number exceeds Biden’s winning margin of 81,000 votes.

In other words, it is likely that the election was and remains illegal under Pennsylvania law, and unverifiable under any credible audit standard.

Wisconsin

In an effort to spot possible irregularities, the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty did a statistical analysis of the top ten voter turnout changes for Republican wards and Democrat wards. (See link @ pg. 78.) I have displayed the results graphically in Figure 1.
Figure 1: Percentage increase in voter turnout 2016 to 2020

The very tall column to the right side of the Democrat wards is Madison Ward 124, and in some amazing way the voter turnout increased in that ward by 1,285 percent. That very unnatural increase could explain why Madison refused to provide ballot access to post-election auditors. (See link @ pg. 7.)
The sharp increase in Madison’s voter turnout could be due to incredible voter enthusiasm. But more likely, it is due to the 200 drop boxes that were placed in the Democrat stronghold for special voting days called “Democracy in the Park” (a two-day, Biden-promoted event of very questionable legality).
The Ward 124 anomaly has never been investigated.

Conclusion

Joe Biden is the legally-elected President of the United States. However, I believe he won several swing state elections that would not be certifiable if our elections were administered with credible election standards.

Joe Fried is an Ohio-based CPA who has performed and reviewed hundreds of certified financial audits. He is the author of the new book, Debunked? An auditor reviews the 2020 election— and the lessons learned (Republic Book Publishers, 2022). It explains why the certifications of six swing state elections were premature.

https://www.americanthinker.co...as_unverifiable.html