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Black92LX
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He can always annuitize all or part of the lump sum any time he wants through a private company. In fact he would probably get a better internal rate of return commercially.

If it were me, I'd do both. Take the lump sum, but take a part of it and buy a single premium immediate annuity. So even if I turn into an unrestrained spendthrift (I doubt it, but you never know) and lose the liquid part, I still get a guaranteed monthly check that I can only spend as fast as they send it.

(Yes, there are companies that will take your annuity and give you a single structured settlement in exchange for future installments, but let's assume I'm smart enough to stay away from those.)


I have seen the JG Wentworth commercials and the like that give a single payout.
I figured one would get ripped but I had no clue it was as bad as it was.
I met a young lady that received a 1.3 MILLION malpractice/wrongful death settlement when her mother passed during a botched surgery.
She went and did one of these single payout things and received 128,000 Eek


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You know what I'd do with $451 million? Two chicks at the same time.



It would take 451 million ????? Wow, maybe you should post a photo. Eek


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He's also lucky to live in a state with no income tax. Just think how much N.Y. would take.
 
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He bought five tickets. I bought zero. I think I see cause and effect.

Bought one for the PowerBall the following night but didn't match the numbers.

My only advice to the kid:
 
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You know what I'd do with $451 million? Two chicks at the same time.



It would take 451 million ????? Wow, maybe you should post a photo. Eek


Dude, your avatar is enormous.


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You know what I'd do with $451 million? Two chicks at the same time.



It would take 451 million ????? Wow, maybe you should post a photo. Eek


Dude, your avatar is enormous.


Ever see the movie Office Space?

“Know what I’d do with a million dollars? Two chicks at the same time.”

“It would cost a million dollars???”

“Fuck yeah. The type of chicks that would double up on a dude like me.”


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I heard on the news he took the 280m lump. If I had been handed that kind of loot at age 20 I’d be dead.
 
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I fully agree that on the basis of rational financial analysis, the lump sum makes more sense. But human nature being what it is, handing a 20 YO guy $280+ million, well, what could possibly go wrong?

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Usually I approve of taking the money in a lump sum. But maybe this kid should have taken the annuity payout.


At 20, absolutely. Taking the annuity I would think makes much more financial sense. Maybe. I don't know. What's the annuity by the way?


The annuity starts at $7.2 million, increasing by 5% each year for 29 years for a total of $451 million.

Based on your post, I ran the analysis by modeling investing in $281.2 million against the annuity cash flow and the rate of return is only 3%. From a pure financial sense over a 29 year period, he can do better by investing the $281.2 million elsewhere like the stock market, recreational marijuana, or hookers and blow.
 
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You could always sign over the annuity.

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Originally posted by kkina:
He can always annuitize all or part of the lump sum any time he wants through a private company. In fact he would probably get a better internal rate of return commercially.

If it were me, I'd do both. Take the lump sum, but take a part of it and buy a single premium immediate annuity. So even if I turn into an unrestrained spendthrift (I doubt it, but you never know) and lose the liquid part, I still get a guaranteed monthly check that I can only spend as fast as they send it.

(Yes, there are companies that will take your annuity and give you a single structured settlement in exchange for future installments, but let's assume I'm smart enough to stay away from those.)
 
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His Faceboook page is public and people have been commenting on it all day.

On Friday, after he realized he hit the jackpot, he posted “Oh. My. God.”

He posted a statement tonight acknowledging everyone and saying thank you.


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I'd take the money, Toombs.


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I am very happy for this young man. For some reason I think he will do good things with the money. Better than the jackasses In W Virginia http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/...drew-jack-whittaker/ and the Derby wearing dude in NYC who showed up to collect his prize with his girlfriend and then his wife appeared.
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If you voluntarily make it public that you won that kind of money you're an idiot, plain and simple. It'll be a miracle if he's not broke by age 30.


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I bet his family tree is miraculously sprouting new and interesting branches as we speak.


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If you voluntarily make it public that you won that kind of money you're an idiot, plain and simple. It'll be a miracle if he's not broke by age 30.




I'd have to agree. Plenty of people ready to feed off of people like this. I'd even be concerned with kidnapping possibilities.
 
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Most lotteries require public disclosure. It’s in the rules for claiming the prize.
 
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Most lotteries require public disclosure. It’s in the rules for claiming the prize.


Yeah, but this kid threw it up on Facebook the second he found out he won.


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I was surprised to learn that a 20 YO can play.


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I was surprised to learn that a 20 YO can play.


I think most states have an 18 year old age limit. Some are 21.

Interestingly I ran across an article this morning about a 17 year old girl who won a lottery in Britain. 1.8 million pounds. She's now suing because she said winning nearly ruined her life because she was too young to be responsible with the money...or something like that. She wants the age limit changed to 18.


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Posts: 30401 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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one time, lump-sum payment in the amount of $281,874,999.00.
but I wonder if this amount is before or after taxes




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