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Originally posted by TSE:

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Anyone who took the time to actually listen to Trump's speech knows he did unequivocally denounce both violence and racism.

Indeed he did. "Problem" is: In his first statement he denounced both sides and, as we all know, the other side can't be racist or bigoted, and violence in the name of their objectives either does not exist or it's justifiable.

It's only OK to denounce both sides if you're Obama...Even better if you're slamming cops, at a funeral for murdered cops.

And yet stories about Antifa attacking peaceful protesters are starting to make it into the mainstream media.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...strators-in-berkeley

http://www.latimes.com/local/l...-20170827-story.html

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
And yet stories about Antifa attacking peaceful protesters are starting to make it into the mainstream media.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...strators-in-berkeley

http://www.latimes.com/local/l...-20170827-story.html

Because the Antifa folks are starting to attack journalists and damage their gear. You can only protect those who attack you for so long.

clueless assholes

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You want something to be nervous about, think of President Hillary Clinton.

Count your blessings

Amen.

Every Time, and I mean every time, President Trump sends me into a mild panic attack, I remind myself that he accomplished a mission most thought impossible coming off of the Obama presidency. Stopping Hillary Clinton in her tracks.

I shudder to imagine what this country would be like under her rule right now. For starters, General Mattis would not be SecDef and bullshit "diversity classes" would not have been discontinued.

Absolutely. It's amazing how many people I know have forgotten Nov 2016 and are jumping on the panic bandwagon.

(It's also a great example of just how easily influenced these same people are by the media they claim to despise and "ignore".)

But, every time someone I know starts blubbering about Trump this or Trump that, I just say "So, you'd rather have Hillary now?"

August 30, 2017
An Ideological Coup against Trump?
By Shoula Romano Horing

As an Israeli who supports Trump and attended Trump’s inauguration to celebrate his win, I read with a heavy heart the reports leaking out of the White House that Sebastian Gorka did not resign but was forced out of his position as a security advisor to the President by General H.R. McMaster and General John Kelly.

Mr. Gorka is the seventh Trump loyalist McMaster has forced out in recent months from the President’s National Security Team. All have been attempting to carry out President Trump’s campaign promises to combat Iranian and radical Islamist terrorist threats, and to support Israel and the U.S.-Israel alliance.

Gorka was the third Trump loyalist forced out since General John F. Kelly, an old military colleague of McMaster, was appointed to be the chief of staff and reportedly encouraged McMaster to make any staffing changes he deems necessary.

If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it is a duck. Maybe it does not sound yet like a “purge” and an ideological coup, but it is starting to look like one, engineered by Generals McMaster and Kelly. It is designed to eliminate President Trump’s national security agenda of support to Israel, opposition to the Iran deal, and determination to name and combat radical Islamist terrorism.

On Friday, in a letter reported by the Federalist, Sebastian Gorka’s explained his “resignation” by expressing his unhappiness with the direction that the Trump administration’s foreign policy has taken as signaled by the President’s recent speech on Afghanistan. Gorka stated:

"Regrettably, outside of yourself (President Trump), the individuals who most embodied and represented the policies that will 'Make America Great Again' have been internally countered, systematically removed, or undermined in recent months. This was made patently obvious as I read the text of your speech on Afghanistan.... The fact that those who drafted and approved the speech removed any mention of Radical Islam or radical Islamic terrorism proves that a critical element of your presidential campaign has been lost.”

On Sunday, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Gorka offered harsh criticism of McMaster's stance towards Islamists saying:

“McMaster sees the threat of Islam through an Obama administration lens, meaning that religion has nothing to do with the war we are in.… He believes and he told me in his office that these people are just criminals.”

A source close to the White House said that after Bannon was forced out, anti-Bannon factions began erecting bureaucratic roadblocks to undermine Gorka internally.

Yahoo News reported that Kelly revoked Gorka’s security clearance, making it difficult if not impossible for him to continue his job. Other news outlets reported that Kelly has been restricting access to Trump as McMaster's detractors are trying to reach the president.

In his short term at the National Security Council (NSC), General McMaster has fired or forced out from the National Security Team, including the NSC, strong pro-Israel and anti-Iran officials such as Steve Bannon, K.T. McFarland, Adam Lovinger, Rich Higgins, Derek Harvey, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, and now Sebastian Gorka.

General McMaster quickly removed Bannon, the engineer of much of President Trump’s pro-Israel, anti-Islamist terrorism agenda, from the Principals Committee of the NSC. McMaster also removed K.T. McFarland, a veteran pro-Israel national security professional in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations and a key member of the team of Iran deal opponents originally gathered by Trump. Lovinger, a pro-Israel national security strategist from the Pentagon, was returned to the Pentagon with his security clearance revoked.

McMaster also fired Iran “hawk” Rich Higgins, the NSC’s director of strategic planning, after Higgins wrote a memo about personnel opposed to President Trump’s foreign policy agenda in the NSC. McMaster also fired Derek Harvey, a senior director and expert on the Middle East and one of the best intelligence analysts on Iraq, after Harvey prepared a list of NSC Obama-era holdovers to be fired for leaking national security information to the press. Instead, other conservatives were fired, such as Ezra Cohen-Watnick, a strong opponent of the Iran deal, who tried to intensify efforts to counter Iran in the Middle East and controlled officials opposed to the president’s policies.

As replacements for those fired, McMaster appointed individuals who are friendly with Obama-era ideologues who blame Israel for Palestinian terror, encourage negotiations with Hamas and are obsessed with the plan for Palestinian statehood.

As David Steinberg from PJ Media wrote, “Indeed, one is hard-pressed to identify a member of the NSC brought in by McMaster with a history of aligning with President Trump on Iran or with his Mideast policy or by his willingness to treat Islamic doctrine as the root cause of terror and related Mideast strife.”

But such nominations are not surprising if one understands McMaster’s own beliefs. He advised the president to certify that Iran is in compliance with the Iran deal, saying that Iran is merely violating the Iran deal’s “spirit” despite German intelligence reports that Iran is cheating and Trump’s promise to tear up or strictly enforce the Iran deal and punish violations. Iran has refused to allow International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors into the Parchin nuclear facility or to interview Iran’s nuclear scientists, and has repeatedly tested intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Following the Obama administration’s practices, McMaster opposes using the term “radical Islamic terrorism” saying that the term isn’t helpful for U.S. goals because it does not help the U.S. in working with allies to defeat terrorist groups.“

Moreover, the general said that Jihadists terrorists aren’t true to their religion and terrorist organizations like ISIS represent a perversion of Islam and are thus un-Islamic

In addition, just before Trump’s visit to Israel, McMaster erroneously publicly claimed that the President would recognize “Palestinian Self-determination“ and refused to state that the Western Wall, one the holiest Jewish sites, and the last remnant of the walls around the Second Jewish Temple, is in Israel and insisted that Netanyahu could not accompany Trump to the site after failing to convince the President not to visit there.

President Trump must wake up and realize the damage that Generals Kelly and McMaster are inflicting on his policies and on those who have been loyal to his ideology. President Trump should know that Israeli history is littered with heroic generals on the battlefield who were weak appeasers in national security when they became prime ministers, such as Israeli chiefs of staff Yitzhak Rabin and Ehud Barak. He should realize that just because they are generals they are not necessarily the right advisors to implement Trump’s tough-minded agenda.

Shoula Romano Horing is an Israeli born and raised attorney.

http://www.americanthinker.com...p_against_trump.html

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Originally posted by CoolRich59:
But, every time someone I know starts blubbering about Trump this or Trump that, I just say "So, you'd rather have Hillary now?"

Not exactly a resounding endorsement. Neither choice was any good at all. I have faith we'll make it through the next 3 1/2 years with only mild embarrassment and no lasting damage, but I really hope we'll be able to come up with a viable candidate next time around. At very least I'd like a candidate that isn't "not the other guy".

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Originally posted by billr:...I really hope we'll be able to come up with a viable candidate...

Some defects take a long time to breed out, often, generations.

Unless we have a major reset in this country, we likely will not see your "viable" candidate for a long time.

Funny, that we want the prefection of our fantasy self to rise to the position.

We wish to create everything in our own (imagined) image.

Sometimes, you do the best with what you have in front of you with wich to work, and you take care of that thing so it may server you well and long.

Sadly, our society has come to be a throw away, instant buy online, 8 seconds of attention span and no more than 240 characture infomration or we zone out and find ourselves distracted by the next sports clip, pic of some bimbo's ass, or salacious story.

God forbid we get something less than perfect.

I voted for Trump, because I see past all the stupid shit people are focusing on. I think he has a brilliant and "trollish" mind, in that he knows how to push peoples buttons.

Funny that the manipulators don't like being manipulated and their too self absorbed to see what he is doing, every day, all day long.

I have known people like Trump. They may not be the most eloquent of speach, and may not have impeccable manners or behavior, and their demeanor my put people off, but damn are they wicked smart, and they suceed in what they do, and the do what they accel in action.

I did not cast a vote against Hillary. I voted for Trump.

And given what he has accomplished in spite of all the opposition, and much from within his camp, I am impressed.

And FWIW, on debate one, question one, DJT was asked if he would support the nominee, and he said he would. I have no doubt, that whomever would have been nominated, he would have thrown in 100%.

Sad that so many of the others were too short of caliber to stand behind him. Those who did, did so with prejiduce.

It almost makes me ashamed to be on such a team.

But, all said and done, I know a winner when I see one. And DJT is still winning.

Like it or not, believe it or don't.

MAGA!

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Originally posted by billr:
Neither choice was any good at all. I have faith we'll make it through the next 3 1/2 years with only mild embarrassment and no lasting damage, but I really hope we'll be able to come up with a viable candidate next time around.

Trump was the best candidate out of the Republican herd, and I see him as the best President we've had in decades. And you want him replaced in the next election cycle? Sure you might come up with a "viable" candidate based on ideology, life experience and morals, but will that person win a modern day election?

<crickets>

Yeah, I thought so.

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Originally posted by billr:
Neither choice was any good at all.

That's your opinion.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
clueless assholes

Guy on the far right says "this is new." Bullshit. MSM has been ignoring it for a couple of years, at least.

Not concerned.
It happens with every administration.

The only people who are going on about it are the democrat shills in the MSM (most of them) and the sheep who actually believe what they say.

Which would be kind of confusing if there was any reason to think about it. First the media screams and raises hell as though they can't stand having someone in the Administration. Then they scream and raise hell as if someone who leaves the Administration can't or won't be replaced. Then they wonder why people say that they're just shills when its obvious that what the media wants is more problems in the White House rather than more solutions.

As long as I see movement (ANY movement) in what I consider the right direction, I am not going to be concerned about it. I probably won't worry, either, because I try to only worry about things I can change.

flashguy

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by billr:
Neither choice was any good at all.

That's your opinion.

Most certainly.

I've met Rich Higgins, heard him speak, and was convinced when he said "Trump gets it " about the threat of Shariah supremacy infiltration--not just terrorism. I am now very concerned that the administration on this issue is heading in the wrong direction.

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Originally posted by billr:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by billr:
Neither choice was any good at all.

That's your opinion.

Most certainly.

And in the minority here, most certainly. A very small minority.

"viable candidate"

Who would you consider better than Donald Trump?

Any of the other 17 candidates from 2016 ? Nope

Any U.S. senator ? No

Anyone from House of Representatives ? No

Any Governor ? No

Anyone else in the U.S. ? No

For all his warts and eccentricities he is the only one who seriously talked about stopping illegal immigration, addressing the illegal aliens who are here now, addressing H-1Bs, repealing obamacare (not just talking about it), and focusing on America First.

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Originally posted by sdy:

For all his warts and eccentricities he is the only one who seriously talked about stopping illegal immigration, addressing the illegal aliens who are here now, addressing H-1Bs, repealing obamacare (not just talking about it), and focusing on America First.

That is a good summation. Sad that the 'establishment GOP' had NO ONE in their offering that could match DT.

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Ted Cruz was close (horseshoes and atom bombs)...BUT...there was NO ONE on that 'R' platform that could have beaten the predetermined MSM coronation of The Hag. The only thing that concerns me about Cruz is he is starting to capitulate to the GOPe to a degree on some issues. Not in EVERYTHING, but for someone who was a stalwart of The Tea Party, he's slipped a little, IMHO...and that disappoints me.