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Wow, so many great responses and muck thanks to you all!!

Another question. Can a plastic surgeon do the Mohs procedure and do the best job of making the nose looking good all at the same time or does it need to be two procedures? I will ask my dermatologist the same when I talk to him hopefully Saturday.

Thanks again for all the help.


You realize no matter much plastic surgery you have - you'll still be butt ugly, right? Big Grin






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Another question. Can a plastic surgeon do the Mohs procedure and do the best job of making the nose looking good all at the same time or does it need to be two procedures?


It will have to be two procedures. A MOHS qualified dermatologist will remove the cancer, and then have you wait while they inspect the removed issue under a microscope. If there are not "clean edges" they will have to go back and remove more, and continue that pattern until they are satisfied they have it all. They will have a plastic surgeon on standby at a different medical practice for cases like this. Be sure to discuss all this with your dermatologist in advance.

Some people I know have had skin cancers on their face and nose for years and just decide not to do anything about them. My best friend died off skin cancer in 2010 (melanoma). I have had the two typical types of skin cancer at the exact same location on my face at the same time, so anything can happen. There is no cut and dried answer, other people's experiences may or may not be relevant. Good Luck!!


Thanks again stiab! Exactly what I needed to know as I want to plan this out for the best result and it appears to require some coordination. So sorry to hear of the loss of your best friend.

I found this link also for myself. Just trying to get as educated as possible about it.

https://www.mohssurgery.org/pa...ources/patient-faqs/
 
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Wow, so many great responses and muck thanks to you all!!

Another question. Can a plastic surgeon do the Mohs procedure and do the best job of making the nose looking good all at the same time or does it need to be two procedures? I will ask my dermatologist the same when I talk to him hopefully Saturday.

Thanks again for all the help.


You realize no matter much plastic surgery you have - you'll still be butt ugly, right? Big Grin


No doubt LOL!
 
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Plastic surgery on the face is also done by ENT surgeons. There’s no huge rush, if I were you I would try to get referral to the facility and surgeon with the greatest specialty experience in this type of cancer and its treatment.
BTW I had mine removed with a minor procedure by an ENT surgeon; got all the margins. But it was on the cheek not on the nose.


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Plastic surgery on the face is also done by ENT surgeons. There’s no huge rush, if I were you I would try to get referral to the facility and surgeon with the greatest specialty experience in this type of cancer and its treatment.
BTW I had mine removed with a minor procedure by an ENT surgeon; got all the margins. But it was on the cheek not on the nose.


Thanks for that information doc, much appreciated!
 
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It is really going to depend upon the histology of the basal cell tumor. Some can be successfully treated with local removal, some require the Mohs procedure. Wait for the path report.

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See my post near the end of this thread for my wife's experiences.

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Just had the Mohs procedure done on my head. This is the most successful procedure.
They ended up taking about a silver dollar size of skin out. Took about 4 hours. Procedure is quick but when they check for the bad cells it takes time. Took them two times to get rid of all the cells in one sitting. Was numb the entire time and did not feel a thing. Recovery went well. Some pain from them stretching the skin together but other than that there were no complications. Message me if you want to know more or see some pics.


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Too add a little more to my experience I forgot to mention the lovely smell you get when they are cauterizing your nose.

your own Burning flesh Eek

I got 13 stitches. 10 inside and 3 on the surface.

My cancer was on the front bridge of my nose.


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I had squamous cell carcinoma on my nose and had Moh's surgery to remove it. It left a hell of a scar and that was with a plastic surgeon doing the repair once the moh's procedure was complete.


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Mohs surgery (developed by Dr. Mohs) is generally considered a rather precise way of excising skin cancer....it consists of serial sectioning (like cutting a loaf of bread), mapping and immediate histologic review of the tissue. As such it is thought to be more accurate and afford higher cure rates for some tumors as compared to some other forms of excision.

Because it involves serial sectioning and review it can sometimes take a long time (not always, but sometimes)...and the procedure is generally performed under local anesthesia.

As noted in previous responses, some Dermatologic Surgeons might well be very experienced, comfortable and competent at closing defects of a variety of sizes and anatomic locations...other's might not, hence again the benefit of a team approach.

Often Mohs Surgeons work and coordinate with a Plastic Surgeon or Head and Neck Surgeon (ENT) in the event that the defect created is either too complex, large or is located in a critical aesthetic or functional area.

It was always nice for the patient if the excision and the reconstruction could all be done in the same day but it's often tough to coordinate because the reconstructive surgeon never knows how long the Mohs procedure will take and it's almost impossible to keep an OR just sitting there empty and waiting for a a non emergent procedure that might or might not be required. As such it's not unusual to go home with a bandage and return for a scheduled date and time for the reconstruction. That's not necessarily a bad thing as it allows the reconstructive surgeon a chance to review in advance of surgery the defect size and location and together come up with reconstructive options that are favorable for the patient. There are often several options for closure. Each patient has different needs and wants etc.

BCCs are unfortunately very common on the nose and while not to be taken lightly, these specialists are generally very well versed in the care of patients with these lesions.

Glad you're getting your's taken care of.
 
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It is really going to depend upon the histology of the basal cell tumor. Some can be successfully treated with local removal, some require the Mohs procedure. Wait for the path report.

Good luck,

RMD


Great information. Thank you!
 
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See my post near the end of this thread for my wife's experiences.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...460075344#8460075344


Thank you for sharing that about your wife and tell her i appreciate too. She has certainly been through a lot but she looks great and I hope it goes better for her in the future.
 
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Just had the Mohs procedure done on my head. This is the most successful procedure.
They ended up taking about a silver dollar size of skin out. Took about 4 hours. Procedure is quick but when they check for the bad cells it takes time. Took them two times to get rid of all the cells in one sitting. Was numb the entire time and did not feel a thing. Recovery went well. Some pain from them stretching the skin together but other than that there were no complications. Message me if you want to know more or see some pics.


Thank you so much for sharing your experience and great to hear it went well for you.
 
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Too add a little more to my experience I forgot to mention the lovely smell you get when they are cauterizing your nose.

your own Burning flesh Eek

I got 13 stitches. 10 inside and 3 on the surface.

My cancer was on the front bridge of my nose.


Yeah I already experienced that with the biopsy LOL. Thank you for sharing your experience and much appreciated!
 
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I had squamous cell carcinoma on my nose and had Moh's surgery to remove it. It left a hell of a scar and that was with a plastic surgeon doing the repair once the moh's procedure was complete.


Thanks for sharing that with me. Sorry to hear about your scar and I hope it gets better over time.
 
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Mohs surgery (developed by Dr. Mohs) is generally considered a rather precise way of excising skin cancer....it consists of serial sectioning (like cutting a loaf of bread), mapping and immediate histologic review of the tissue. As such it is thought to be more accurate and afford higher cure rates for some tumors as compared to some other forms of excision.

Because it involves serial sectioning and review it can sometimes take a long time (not always, but sometimes)...and the procedure is generally performed under local anesthesia.

As noted in previous responses, some Dermatologic Surgeons might well be very experienced, comfortable and competent at closing defects of a variety of sizes and anatomic locations...other's might not, hence again the benefit of a team approach.

Often Mohs Surgeons work and coordinate with a Plastic Surgeon or Head and Neck Surgeon (ENT) in the event that the defect created is either too complex, large or is located in a critical aesthetic or functional area.

It was always nice for the patient if the excision and the reconstruction could all be done in the same day but it's often tough to coordinate because the reconstructive surgeon never knows how long the Mohs procedure will take and it's almost impossible to keep an OR just sitting there empty and waiting for a a non emergent procedure that might or might not be required. As such it's not unusual to go home with a bandage and return for a scheduled date and time for the reconstruction. That's not necessarily a bad thing as it allows the reconstructive surgeon a chance to review in advance of surgery the defect size and location and together come up with reconstructive options that are favorable for the patient. There are often several options for closure. Each patient has different needs and wants etc.

BCCs are unfortunately very common on the nose and while not to be taken lightly, these specialists are generally very well versed in the care of patients with these lesions.

Glad you're getting your's taken care of.


Thanks so much for the great information and I can certainly understand that there will most likely be a delay between removal and plastic surgeon doing his magic. I have not problem with that at all and now have a better idea what to expect.
 
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I can't really add much to what has already been said. I worked outside all of my life, and nobody ever thought about sun block lotion. I have had 2 Mohs surgeries, one on my ear and one on my forehead. Everything went well. My insurance will pay for a complete skin check by a dermatologist once a year. They always find something on my face to freeze off. They do not want me to go outside without sunscreen, a hat and long sleeve shirt. I know lots of retired Ironworkers who have the same issue. Just keep getting checked out and hopefully everything will be fine. Good Luck.
 
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Echoing what Ironworker said, worked outside most of my life. Construction, police, motors for 20 years. I have had four taken off face, minimal scarring.
Last thing I do before putting on helmet, or doing a road job or just being outside is a good application of Bullfrog. It works!


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Thanks Ironworker and SPG for sharing your experiences!

I am not one to be out in the sun much but I certainly will certainly take extra care for now on.
 
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