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Peace through
superior firepower
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"To be quite honest, I don't know"

Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Typical Roll Eyes

 
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Lawyers, Guns
and Money
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To help the young Socialists.... Roll Eyes

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
communism, Marxism, labor movement

(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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too mean to quit!
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Not surprising.

Remember those college students who believed that the USA fought against France in WW2?

Or the ones who insisted that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her front porch? AIR, that was actually a SNL skit.


Elk

There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
-Thomas Jefferson

"America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville

FBHO!!!



The Idaho Elk Hunter
 
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Just because you can,
doesn't mean you should
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Just let them refer to the video Para posted of the girls that robbed the little nine year old selling Girl Scout cookies.
They took what they wanted because they wanted it.
Same mentality and concept.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/3830031334
 
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is circumspective
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Useful idiots. Stupid people are too stupid to know how stupid they are.

These fools always seem to believe those with less can be brought up to a better level without regard for bringing others down to enable it. They fail to realize to accomplish this end likely requires resources in such an amount as to deem them above that threshold.

In other words, it's all good with them as long as it's someone else doing the sacrificing. There just ain't enough money to do it without them taking a hit. Let's see how they feel about that.
 
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Freethinker
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quote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
the USA fought against France in WW2


The US actually did fight against French forces in World War II. The French briefly resisted the invasion of North Africa and casualties were suffered on both sides. The fighting was obviously not on the same scale as against the Germans, Japanese, or even the Italians, but it did occur.




“Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.”
— Leo Tolstoy
 
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Just because you can,
doesn't mean you should
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Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
the USA fought against France in WW2


The US actually did fight against French forces in World War II. The French briefly resisted the invasion of North Africa and casualties were suffered on both sides. The fighting was obviously not on the same scale as against the Germans, Japanese, or even the Italians, but it did occur.


Vichy France, not the France that most people think of.
Do you think any of the people on that video would know who that refers to, or what century that happened, or who fought in that war or why?
That's the root of the problem.
Rebels without a clue.
 
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too late smart
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I wonder if those kids have a future in basket weaving.
 
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The Unmanned Writer
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Originally posted by chellim1:
To help the young Socialists.... Roll Eyes

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/

a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
radicalism, progressivism, social democracy;
communism, Marxism, labor movement

(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


To add to this:

"It should be noted, implementation of this theory has NEVER worked and always results in the populous suffering."







Sentiment without action is the ruin of the soul.


Help, I'm having premonitions of future flashbacks.

Only in an insane world are the sane considered insane.

Some people listen to the noise of the world,
And some people listen to the quiet.
 
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Freethinker
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Vichy France, not the France that most people think of.


An interesting distinction. I never thought of the question in terms of the “No true Scotsman” argument.

The armed forces we fought were made up of Frenchmen operating ships and equipment owned by the country of France and under the command of French generals and admirals. If that didn’t make them French, I cannot imagine what would have. Were de Gaulle and his followers in the U.K. the only real French? The US obviously considered the Vichy regime to be “France” because our formal recognition of the government continued until Germany occupied all of the country after the invasion of North Africa.

So, yeah, the US fought against France in World War II. Briefly.

And my point is not that such people are stunningly ignorant, but what the historical facts are. Their ignorance—or the ignorance of other people—doesn’t change the historical fact that the US fought French forces in the war.




“Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.”
— Leo Tolstoy
 
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Political Cynic
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the education system at its finest...these are the poster children for you tax dollars and the abomination that calls itself public schooling

not only do they need refunds on their educations, the American taxpayers do as well



Peace is not the absence of conflict, but rather when you have your foot firmly on the enemies neck

"I'm only myself when I have a guitar in my hands." - George Harrison


 
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Socialism FrownWhere people act real social.)


美しい犬
 
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:....To add to this:

"It should be noted, implementation of this theory has NEVER worked and always results in the populous suffering."


I understand that Orwell was at one time a socialist, until he saw the reality of Stalinist Russia, thus Animal Farm "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal". Socialism is gov't of the people, by the elite, for the elite.




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
 
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And they're mostly the folks that preach to us! Nitwits Mad



Regards, Will G.
 
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Originally posted by Sportshooter:
I wonder if those kids have a future in basket weaving.


Perhaps not basket weaving, but CEOs of corporations, Governors of states, and key roles within the Government. Also members of the media. That's why this is scary. Otherwise, I wouldn't care :-)
 
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Too old to run,
too mean to quit!
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Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
Vichy France, not the France that most people think of.


An interesting distinction. I never thought of the question in terms of the “No true Scotsman” argument.

The armed forces we fought were made up of Frenchmen operating ships and equipment owned by the country of France and under the command of French generals and admirals. If that didn’t make them French, I cannot imagine what would have. Were de Gaulle and his followers in the U.K. the only real French? The US obviously considered the Vichy regime to be “France” because our formal recognition of the government continued until Germany occupied all of the country after the invasion of North Africa.

So, yeah, the US fought against France in World War II. Briefly.

And my point is not that such people are stunningly ignorant, but what the historical facts are. Their ignorance—or the ignorance of other people—doesn’t change the historical fact that the US fought French forces in the war.


But were those Vichy forces in fact in support of the Nazis?


Elk

There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
-Thomas Jefferson

"America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville

FBHO!!!



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There was a guy that called Rush last month that said the US attacked Japan unprovoked during WWII. He had no idea what happened at PearlHarbor, or what it was. He was a college graduate, not that it means much today, the lack of knowledge they have is staggering.


"Hold my beer.....Watch this".
 
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The Main Thing Is
Not To Get Excited
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Just fcuk. On the whole whole ignorant mess we have got ourselves into where the official, Webster definiton of 'fact' will be transmogrified to:

Fact: NOUN

1 a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on observation or research:

2 The beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.

edited to add: fcuk


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Originally posted by nighthawk:
There was a guy that called Rush last month that said the US attacked Japan unprovoked during WWII. He had no idea what happened at PearlHarbor, or what it was. He was a college graduate, not that it means much today, the lack of knowledge they have is staggering.


Two sidenotes. Around the 50th anniversary of Pearl Harbor there were some PBS documentaries on the subject. A Japanese history scholar (US educated) commented "it wasn't until preparing for this interview I connected Hiroshima with Pearl Harbor". Roll Eyes

Two years ago my then 9 yr old grandson called and asked "grandpa, what is the connection between Hiroshima and Pearl Harbor? (He has since asked me what really started WWI).

Also a note on today's college environment. A dominant theme on many college campus' today is Social Justice, ie, diversity-tolerance-equality, ie, demean America founders and founding principles as racist.




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
 
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Little ray
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They don't want real, actual socialism. (State ownership of the means of production, etc.) They want more welfare and public benefits.

They are ignoramuses.




The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
 
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