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Athaya automatic watch winding problem-Asking advice from watch techs.

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August 01, 2020, 08:49 AM
Sunset_Va
Athaya automatic watch winding problem-Asking advice from watch techs.


I purchased this Seiko homage watch some years back from a company in Indonesia. I wore it daily, and it kept accurate time, and I like the watch.

Last year I purchased another watch and stop wearing the Athaya, it was not worn for a year.

Now, I went to use it, and it will run for 15-20 seconds and stop running. Even vigorously shaking the watch, the second hand will only run a short time.

Sending it back to the company is a no go, and before I send it to a watch specialist, is there any thing I can do to get this watch running?

What could have happened for this watch to stop functioning ?

Thanks to all in advance.


美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 08:55 AM
stickman428
Probably needs a service. Do you know what kind of movement it has?


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August 01, 2020, 08:57 AM
jimmy123x
Age of watch?
August 01, 2020, 08:58 AM
Scurvy
A service might be more than a replacement watch. I'm guessing the lube dried up from sitting.
August 01, 2020, 09:09 AM
Sunset_Va
The watch is probably 5-6 years old. This is a link to the description of the watch at the store website.

.http://parts.athayavintage.com...-lamafa-diver-watch/h

This is the movement:

Movement : Seiko Instrument Automatic NH35A Hacked second.

Would a local watch/jeweler be able to check it or would I need to send it to some one like International Watch Works? And probably the service charge would equal the cost of the watch.

Just frustrated because I should have worn it to keep it wound.


美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 09:13 AM
stickman428
Good news: NH35A movement is easy to find and VERY inexpensive
Bad news: it will probably cost more to install a new movement than the watch is worth


5-6 years is about average time before that movement needs a service.


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August 01, 2020, 09:16 AM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Good news: NH35A movement is easy to find and VERY inexpensive
Bad news: it will probably cost more to install a new movement than the watch is worth


5-6 years is about average time before that movement needs a service.


Thank you , kinda depressing, the downside of having a treasured automatic watch :-(


美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 09:16 AM
stickman428
I would ask around and see if you can find a local jeweler/watchmaker who is willing to take on the job and not charge a ton of money.


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August 01, 2020, 09:37 AM
V-Tail
Captain Obvious checking in here -- have you asked David Truong?



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August 01, 2020, 09:58 AM
71 TRUCK
Sounds like the main spring my be broken. As others have said, it being as old as it may be, it is time for a service.
The value of the service may be more than the value of the watch so it would be more about sentimental value.
My very first automating/mechanical watch is a Seiko dive watch. If it were to crap out I would pay to have it fixed just for this reason.
Not sure how much it would cost to service but back when I had my Breitling serviced it was just under $500 dollars. It was done at Breitlings service center in Connecticut. It was a full service that included polishing the case and bracelet.
You may be able to find someone local that can do it for much less. I would also contact David Truong as V-Tail has said.
Good luck and let us know what you decide.




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August 01, 2020, 11:05 AM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
Captain Obvious checking in here -- have you asked David Truong?



No, but I will, thank you for the suggestion.


美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 01:40 PM
tacfoley
If a watch has stopped, then 'shaking it vigorously' is the last thing you should do.

Probably WAS the last thing you could do with this poor watch. Frown
August 01, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
If a watch has stopped, then 'shaking it vigorously' is the last thing you should do.

Probably WAS the last thing you could do with this poor watch. Frown


Sure didn't know that.


美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 03:49 PM
stickman428
Shaking a NH35A vigorously is not going to hurt it. I got punted from a tube behind a boat at 30-35mph while wearing my Seiko Samurai (it has a NH35A movement) and it never slipped a beat. The Seiko NH35 and its close relatives are all VERY robust automatic movements. Shaking the snot out of it won’t hurt it.

I’ve dropped an NH35A powered Invicta grand diver from about 4-5 feet onto a concrete floor and it’s movement was totally unscathed...the whole watch was fine except for the small nick it picked up on the cyclops.


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August 01, 2020, 03:55 PM
stickman428
Sunset_Va , how long did you shake it and how hard?

Reason I ask is that I recently pulled out my first Seiko mod, a Seiko 7002 Diver sporting an orange dial, coin edge bezel & blue/red bezel insert. I even put on a display caseback to showcase that “fancy” 7002 movement. Big Grin It has sat dormant for at least 7-9 months.

I thought my trusty old 7002 had crapped out because I had to shake the absolute F out of it for about 5 minutes straight to get it to run without stopping. After a few not so vigorous shakes and then the quite long and violent shake it fully charged up and ran like it should with great accuracy.

Maybe try a few more times to get it charged up?


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August 01, 2020, 04:38 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Sunset_Va , how long did you shake it and how hard?

Reason I ask is that I recently pulled out my first Seiko mod, a Seiko 7002 Diver sporting an orange dial, coin edge bezel & blue/red bezel insert. I even put on a display caseback to showcase that “fancy” 7002 movement. Big Grin It has sat dormant for at least 7-9 months.

I thought my trusty old 7002 had crapped out because I had to shake the absolute F out of it for about 5 minutes straight to get it to run without stopping. After a few not so vigorous shakes and then the quite long and violent shake it fully charged up and ran like it should with great accuracy.

Maybe try a few more times to get it charged up?


I have 3 actual Seiko divers, 6309,6105 and a SX007. (173), that are unwound for lengths of time. With those watches, about 30 seconds of shaking gets them started enough for me to wear them, and continue the winding process.

Probably shook the Athaya in a round motion about 1 minute each several times. Each time after those shakings, it still ran 15-20 seconds, then stopped. Each episode of shaking ends in the same results.

Large photo from Athaya's website of exposed movement.




美しい犬
August 01, 2020, 06:06 PM
r0gue
https://www.watchmann.com/watchrepair.php

These guys have proven fairly reasonable for servicing of my not so important watches.




August 01, 2020, 09:30 PM
Sunset_Va
quote:
Originally posted by r0gue:
https://www.watchmann.com/watchrepair.php

These guys have proven fairly reasonable for servicing of my not so important watches.


Thank you.

We only have 2 watch repair shops in my area, the so called watch doctor is terrible, and at a jewlery shop they have a jeweler whom I trust more that does some watch repair.


美しい犬