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Chicago had 14,000 more votes than voters in 2016 general election
By Thomas Lifson

President Trump continues to receive scorn over his assertion last year that vote fraud accounted for Hillary Clinton’s raw vote majority. Democrats and their shills are unanimous in denouncing the “false claims” (The Amazon Washington Post recently called it a “zombie claim.”) When the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity was announced, it was denounced as a waste, an attempt to intimidate minorities, and a scheme to violate privacy, which has caused states to refuse to release public data requested by the commission. Its investigator, J. Christian Adams, is being vilified. Even Republicans expressed reluctance to Politico over the investigation.

Senator Chuck Schumer bizarrely linked vote fraud to Charlottesville.

In the wake of the confrontation in Charlottesville, Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) called for President Trump to disband the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity on Aug. 24. In a Medium post, Schumer said the actions of the commission were “wolves in sheep’s clothing” and a “ruse” designed to “revive the old playbook and disenfranchise minority voters.”

They really, really don’t want anyone looking closely at vote fraud. They claim there is none of any significance.

That must be why this report from Chicago City Wire has been so thoroughly ignored by the mainstream media:

More than 14,000 votes were cast in Chicago during the 2016 general election than there were voters to cast them, based on separate figures released by the Chicago Board of Elections, the chairman of the Chicago Republican Party has reported.

Chris Cleveland told the Chicago Wire that "on a whim," he filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the board, which provided him with a list of 1,101,178 people who voted in the general election. An earlier post on the board's website said that 1,115,664 votes had been cast.

“There should be never be more votes than voters,” Cleveland said. “Every ballot cast should be recorded against a registered voter.”

The party did a breakdown of voting by precinct, and Cleveland said it found an uneven distribution of discrepancies. Fifteen precincts had 100 more ballots cast than voters, while others had fewer votes than voters.

Judicial Watch is also on the case:

Washington-based Judicial Watch named Illinois among 11 states that have another kind of discrepancy in their voting rolls: The number of registered voters exceeds the number of voting-age citizens as determined by a review of Census data.

In April, the group sent a notice-of-violation letter along with a threat to sue the 11 states.

Robert Popper, director of Judicial Watch’s Election Integrity Project and formerly deputy chief of the voting section of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, said that not maintaining accurate voting rolls violates the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.

“People remember the act as the ‘motor voter’ law because it requires the states to offer voter registration forms with driver license applications,” Popper said. “But what a lot of people forget is that as a compromise for getting the act through, it requires states to maintain accurate voting rolls.”

Judicial Watch identified 26 Illinois counties where voter registration was higher than the number of people eligible to vote, according to Census numbers.

But we can expect that Democrats will continue to dismiss the possibility that vote fraud worked for them on a significant scale. The fact that they resist investigation is telling.

http://www.americanthinker.com...eneral_election.html



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J. Christian Adams and Judicial Watch have a history of being able to get to the bottom of such asshattery.

I've been a fan of Adams since he was with the voting section of DOJ and was essentially run off over his views on dropping the New Black Panther voter intimidation case.
 
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Good article. I contribute to Judicial Watch – a good organization.



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And we all all positive that EVERY registered voter in Chicago went to the polls and voted.....well maybe not!!
 
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And we all all positive that EVERY registered voter in Chicago went to the polls and voted.....well maybe not!!


Apparently some of them more than once




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Vote early, vote often, right?


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I am sure all those bogus ballots voted for Trump. Wink




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A bit of sarcasm I presume??^^^^^


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Damn! I am trying so hard to be surprised.

Just cannot get there.


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Vote early, vote often, right?

Of course this corruption in Chicago destroys the entire State:

August 28, 2017
The state line that best demonstrates ‘red model’ success and ‘blue model’ failure
By Thomas Lifson

Anyone who cares to look can readily identify that the package of high taxes, high government spending, and high pensions for retired public employees kills economic growth and causes people to flee. If a test case is needed, the adjacent states of Illinoi and Indiana – relatively indistinguishable from each other and varying only in the model of state governance – proves that the critical variable in economic success is whether a Democrat set of policies or a Republican set of policies (to over-generalize) are in place.

The editors of the Chicago Tribune appear to get it.

…when Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb showed up in Gary recently wearing a hard hat and holding a shovel, he was doing two important things: welcoming a trucking company from south suburban Chicago Ridge, and taking a dig at Illinois.

“We are thrilled to welcome HMD Trucking to Indiana, home to balanced budgets, a AAAcredit rating and a low cost of doing business,” Holcomb said. “It is clear why HMD Trucking decided to move from Illinois to Indiana. We have become the best state in the Midwest to start, get and grow jobs.”

Ouch, Gov. Holcomb, the truth hurts. Almost like getting smacked with a shovel.

Alas, it’s no longer surprising when an Illinois company leaves for Indiana. (snip)

Despite the similarities, the two states have very different economic prospects. Indiana is in fine fettle, while Illinois is a basket case, with more than a $130 billion in unfunded pension liabilities, an unbalanced budget and $15 billion in overdue bills. Illinois has higher taxes, too, which would need to be raised even higher to right the ship. We have no idea what that would cost taxpayers, given that the Democrat-controlled General Assembly, ruled by House Speaker Mike Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton, has resisted Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner on his turnaround plan. This constitutes a major roadblock to future job growth and prosperity.

Embracing Democrat policies brings unemployment, declining incomes, and an angry and depressed populace. It really is hard to understand why voters would hand control to Democrats anywhere. Assuming, that is, that actual voters are the ones casting ballots.

http://www.americanthinker.com...e_model_failure.html



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What would be the point? There is no chance Illinois is not going Blue.



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What would be the point? There is no chance Illinois is not going Blue.

Illinois recently elected a Republican Governor.
That was with all of this election fraud in the Chicago area. Just think.... if the rest of the State could take power away from Chicago?



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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What would be the point? There is no chance Illinois is not going Blue.

Illinois recently elected a Republican Governor.
That was with all of this election fraud in the Chicago area. Just think.... if the rest of the State could take power away from Chicago?


As long as Madigan is alive Illinois will never turn red. His daughter is a chip off the old block, and both are as dirty as they come.

There's a reason Illinois is called Madiganistan.
 
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In 2012 North Carolina had 2,214 voters over 112. There was also a 150 year old, a 154 year old and a 160 year old.

The "explanation" is that these are "legacy voters." They registered to vote before the requirement to record a birthdate was passed. While the state has 100 counties, the 2,214 voters aged 112 mostly cluster in just 4 counties. The "explanation goes on to say that when the requirement went into effect 01/01/1900 was the date assigned to them. Nobody tried to explain those age 150, 154 or 160.

How about 2014 and 2016? No information.

My bet is that Chicago will come up with:"Well, we have lots of college students, they register out of state and vote here." However, then this becomes matching these voters to their home state. I know of a case where a many received his absentee ballot, voted, then went a voted at a polling place.

http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/re...rs-in-north-carolina
http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset...o_Civitas_Report.pdf
http://americantoday.news/nort...ered-voters-age-110/



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This is a bullshit report. There is no way there 14,000 more votes in Chicago than voters. The City Wire is just trying to be polite. I'll bet my last dollar it was more like 100K more votes than voters.
 
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And Rauner is not a Republican any more than Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnel are Republicans. He's a dyed in the wool Democrat masquerading as a Republican. He just signed the Trust Act into law effectively making Illinois a sanctuary State
 
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This is a bullshit report. There is no way there 14,000 more votes in Chicago than voters. The City Wire is just trying to be polite. I'll bet my last dollar it was more like 100K more votes than voters.


Nah, it was just over enthusiasm.

Remember, this is 100% turnout plus 14k votes.

There is never, ever honestly 100% voter turnout anywhere, at any time. You see turnout that high, you know ballet boxes are being stuffed with votes for every possible voter.
 
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The fact that a Republican was elected is meaningless. One thing the last 8 months should have shown you is that there is little difference between the two parties.

Below are the ID requirements for voting in IL, how could there possibly be fraud?


"In general, Illinois voters do not have to provide ID at the polling place in order to vote. There are exceptions to this:
Voters using Election Day Registration (EDR) or a first-time voter who registered by mail but did not submit sufficient proof of identity with the registration application must present ID. These voters must bring two of the following IDs, with one of them containing the person’s current address:

Illinois driver’s license or state ID card;
Employee or student ID;
Credit card;
Social Security card;
Birth certificate;
Utility bill in the voter’s name;
Mail postmarked to the voter;
Valid U.S. passport;
Public assistance ID card (such as Illinois Link card); or
Lease or rental contract.

If a voter’s qualifications are challenged, the voter may be required to produce two forms of identification showing her current residence address, including one piece of mail addressed to the voter at her current residence address and postmarked on October 10, 2016 or later. Otherwise, voters may bring a witness who is registered to vote in that same precinct and who is willing to take an oath and say that the voter is qualified to vote there—and then the voter may vote.
Some places may require that the voter present two forms of ID if she is on the inactive voter list.
If a voter is unable to show identification when required—if the voter registered by mail without providing identification, was successfully challenged, is on the inactive list, or is using Election Day Registration (EDR)—the voter is allowed to vote by provisional ballot. BUT a voter should try to go back and get an ID before entering the polls, instead of voting with a provisional ballot, because provisional ballots are not always counted."
 
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