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nauseating to watch

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The railroads once controlled the flow of goods. We broke them up because they were too powerful and concentrated.

Google controls the flow of information. It could be argued that controlling the flow of information is more important and potentially harmful.


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^^^

Yes.

And talk about "not using google products" as if that is a solution is akin to saying "do not use oil based products" because "Big Oil" was controlling.

It sounds good when you say it, but when you realize all the "runs" on "google", like "oil", it touches everything.

And the vast majority of the world would never give it up.

Break up the monopolies. Yes, there will be some negatives and some pain, but the progression of that power and control is not worth the "benefits".




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Yes.

And talk about "not using google products" as if that is a solution is akin to saying "do not use oil based products" because "Big Oil" was controlling.

It sounds good when you say it, but when you realize all the "runs" on "google", like "oil", it touches everything.

And the vast majority of the world would never give it up.

Break up the monopolies. Yes, there will be some negatives and some pain, but the progression of that power and control is not worth the "benefits".


It actually wouldn't be all that hard to make an impact on the Company. Switch your gmail account to Outlook.com or any of the other million free email providers. Use Brave or Bing instead of Google for search. Those two steps right there would have a measurable impact on the company if enough people did it. If you want to go further, stop viewing youtube videos and uploading content to the site. Switch from android to iOS (not that Apple is much better in terms of politics).

All the products that create income for Google rely on access to personal information about you - the sites you visit, the searches you make, the contents of your emails. Anything you can do to deprive them of that info will do some amount of damage to them.

It's not hard to do...but it's certainly not convenient if you are embedded in the google universe. It just depends how much you want to punish them.
 
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I completely agree. People will say "it's their company they can do what they want" but that is not true. There isn't a single private company that is exempt from some sort of regulation. Google is positioning itself as THE information gatekeeper. If they cannot do this equally to all parties (and they have proven they cannot) then unfortunately the government may have to step in.
 
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It’s showing up in the MSM now. Not APNews though…

https://dailym.ai/2p3pyiE

It’ll be interesting to see what google says about the leaked video.




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Switch from android to iOS (not that Apple is much better in terms of politics).



Yeah, not a chance I'll ever be doing that.


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I completely agree. People will say "it's their company they can do what they want" but that is not true. There isn't a single private company that is exempt from some sort of regulation. Google is positioning itself as THE information gatekeeper. If they cannot do this equally to all parties (and they have proven they cannot) then unfortunately the government may have to step in.

Would you like to take a stab at who the email provider for most of the Fed is? I don’t see the US government doing anything about Google.




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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:...If enough people did it. ...



There will be more adopters every day, than any number of those who walk away.

It's like trying to drain the ocean by dragging out buckets of water and pouring them on the beach.

That hole slams shut pretty darn fast.




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Would you like to take a stab at who the email provider for most of the Fed is? I don’t see the US government doing anything about Google.


Oh I know. The left is working to eliminate ALL opposing views. Right now it is limited to certain sites. Eventually the censorship will make its way to the providers. It's not enough for them to eliminate opposing views from Google, facebook, etc., they would love to be able to eliminate it from the entire web. What are people going to say when Comcast won't even allow conservative web content at all, not just on a particular website? I only have one provider where I live. There is no where else to go.

Only a matter of time. The left works incrementally.
 
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It’s Official: Google Is a Democratic Party Front

Someone leaked to Breitbart an hour-long video of an “all hands” Google meeting that was held just after the 2016 election. The video features Google’s co-founder, Sergei Brin, its CEO, Sundar Pichai, and numerous other high-ranking “Googlers” speaking in turn about the election’s tragic outcome. It is stunning.

All of the speakers express grief over Donald Trump’s election. All of the speakers assume that every Google employee is a Democrat and is stunned and horrified that Hillary Clinton–the worst and most corrupt presidential candidate in modern history–lost. There is much discussion about what Google can do to reverse the benighted world-wide tide exemplified by Brexit and Trump’s election. The insane doctrine of “white privilege” rears its head.

You really have to see it to believe it. Having suffered through the hour-long cri de cœur–OK, to be fair, there is a huge element of schadenfreude, too, and you will relish much of it–you probably will have several reactions: 1) These people may have certain valuable technical skills, but they aren’t very bright and are unusually lacking in self-awareness. 2) It is remarkable that they can achieve such an extraordinary monoculture in an organization with thousands of employees. It must require vigorous enforcement of right-think. 3) It is easy to see how these uniformly left-wing robots/people seamlessly transitioned into Resisting the duly elected Trump administration.

Here is the video, then a final comment:



The question is what to do about the left-wing tech monopolies of Silicon Valley. Start conservative companies and platforms to compete with them? Break them up under the Sherman Act? Turn them into regulated public utilities, with public employee-level salaries and no stock options? Those are all possibilities. After watching the video, you no doubt will be ready to take action.

UPDATE: Google put out a statement in response to the uproar over this video:

At a regularly scheduled all hands meeting, some Google employees and executives expressed their own personal views in the aftermath of a long and divisive election season. For over 20 years, everyone at Google has been able to freely express their opinions at these meetings. Nothing was said at that meeting, or any other meeting, to suggest that any political bias ever influences the way we build or operate our products. To the contrary, our products are built for everyone, and we design them with extraordinary care to be a trustworthy source of information for everyone, without regard to political viewpoint.

That’s the usual leftist line: Sure, we are all liberals here, but trust us! It doesn’t influence how we do our work. The problem is that the video includes extensive discussion of how “we” can prevent future anomalies like Trump’s election and Brexit.

A reader and frequent correspondent offers a pungent take on Google’s election angst:

Gag me with a spoon.

I worked for very large corporations most of my life. Of course, there is a strong element of conformity — but with respect to achieving success of the business, nothing else! I also had experience in a tech start-up post early stage. Very smart high level people. And NOTHING remotely like the fatuous, risible self importance displayed by these punchable a**holes. They give conformity, groupthink and limousine liberal goo-goo right-think a bad name.

But all you need to know is this, openly proclaimed: they have 10,000 immigrant employees! A world of tech-coolies!

Crush them.

Also this:

And what is it with their “values”? WTF? Are they a cult? Do they think they’re an eleemosynary institution?

When I hear one of these smarmy T-shirt wearing fakes nattering on about their “Googler” “values” ... I release the safety on my Browning.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/...atic-party-front.php


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"Look how the media is covering the leaked video of Google execs boo-hooing over Hillary losing the election. Their take is basically that it will give 'ammo' to conservatives who are charging Google with intentionally biasing the results of its search engine. If the video were different, if it showed Google employees whooping it up and throwing MAGA hats into the air because they were so happy Trump won, you can bet that there would be many chin-stroking think pieces written about how the video calls into question Google's objectivity. But seeing them openly weeping at Hillary's loss apparently doesn't raise that question. What's really creepy is how full of themselves the Google execs are, like when Google VP Kent Walker answers a question by saying that Google must ensure that the rise of populism doesn’t turn into 'a world war or something catastrophic'. I had no idea that the guys who run Google believe it's their job to keep history on the correct path. I thought that their job was to provide a search engine that they claim everybody can use. Except, of course, for the Chinese, whose authorities cooked up a scheme with Google to let them see only what they allow. Google's only response to the leaked video is insist, incredibly, that their search engine isn't biased, despite their entire executive and management levels being completely in the tank for the progressive left. So they want us to believe that that we, their prospective users, are being presented with a totally neutral, totally objective search engine where nothing is filtered or left out, but on the other hand, they want to bend history along a progressive path. That's the circle that really can't be squared, and I don't think Google wants you to notice."

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A bit off topic, but the Google executive in the yellow shirt reminds me of a photo that pops up in Sigforum every now and them.

Guy in yellow t-shirt holding flowers or maybe he has flowers on his shirt.

If you have that photo please post it.
Wondering if it is the same guy.



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I watched it last night. Admittedly, had to fast foward thru sections of it. But I have seen enough. If Google's efforts on behalf of Democrats doesn't count as a priceless campaign contribution, then the sky isn't blue. They need to be regulated.

Regulated? That's what we need—more big government.


Aren't monetary campaign contributions regulated now? Isn't rigging a search engine to skew search results in favor of liberals a campaign contribution of significant value?

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Would you like to take a stab at who the email provider for most of the Fed is? I don’t see the US government doing anything about Google.


I sure don't see Jeff Sessions doing a damned thing about it. I view him that same way I viewed McCain. Whatever he did in the past that boosted his esteem has been lost by his refusal to now to do what is right.
 
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A bit off topic, but the Google executive in the yellow shirt reminds me of a photo that pops up in Sigforum every now and them.

Guy in yellow t-shirt holding flowers or maybe he has flowers on his shirt.

If you have that photo please post it.
Wondering if it is the same guy.


Larry Page. But I don't recall the picture tow which you refer.




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^^^

Yes.

And talk about "not using google products" as if that is a solution is akin to saying "do not use oil based products" because "Big Oil" was controlling.

Nonsense.

Other than a couple Android TVs, which we don't much use and could do without (and probably eventually will) and a Google keyboard, which I could certainly live without, we're not using anything Google in our household.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
It sounds good when you say it, but when you realize all the "runs" on "google", like "oil", it touches everything.

No, it does not. It touches only what you wish to allow it to touch.

Hell, if I wanted to I could remove my piddly little web sites from Google's search results with only trivial effort.

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And the vast majority of the world would never give it up.

You don't say.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Break up the monopolies. Yes, there will be some negatives and some pain, but the progression of that power and control is not worth the "benefits".

So I take it, by that statement, you agreed with Clinton's DoJ's attempt to break up Microsoft, and were unhappy with GWB's undoing it?

A supporter of Net Neutrality, you are?

Who else that holds a commanding portion of their market would you see the U.S. Government forcibly break up?

Re: Dumping Google...

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It's not hard to do...but it's certainly not convenient if you are embedded in the google universe. It just depends how much you want to punish them.

We did it. Wasn't that big a deal.

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Switch from android to iOS (not that Apple is much better in terms of politics).

Yeah, not a chance I'll ever be doing that.

Well there you go, then. Like I used to tell people who bitched about Microsoft or cable companies but kept using their products: Don't be bitchin' about 'em. You're the reason they are what they are.

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I don’t see the US government doing anything about Google.

That may be because Google does not hold a monopoly on anything. For everything they do and every product or service they supply: There are quite usable alternatives. Several, in many cases.

Dominance ≠ monopoly.




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Switch from android to iOS (not that Apple is much better in terms of politics).

Yeah, not a chance I'll ever be doing that.

Well there you go, then. Like I used to tell people who bitched about Microsoft or cable companies but kept using their products: Don't be bitchin' about 'em. You're the reason they are what they are.


I bitch about Apple, so I don't use Apple or their products. See how that works? I like Android, so I use Android. Period.

None of that means that I'm now beholden to Google in everything I do.


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sigmonkey, isn't the phrase "divide and conquer" in reference to splitting one strong unit into multiple, weaker factions so it's easier to defeat/pit one against the other?

ensigmatic, Google touches us all whether you like it or not and that is the issue. I have a friend who takes every precaution to reduce his digital footprint. At one time he refused to email anyone if it was from a free email service. Problem is, people would email him anyways using Google, outlook, etc. and that act alone already provides a basis for those companies to build a profile. Then he's got his friends, family, GIRLFRIEND posting pictures and video with him in it and even though he isn't tagged, it's not hard to take an educated guess and connect the face with a digital profile.

Have a job that uses any Google services? Google harvests that information. Are you going to tell an employer you quit or won't take a position because they use Google? Good luck finding a job that doesn't have Google's fingerprints somewhere on it.

Think of Google as modern transportation. Can you survive without a car or truck? Sure. But you're dependent on the rest of the country using cars and trucks so you have the standard of living you're used to. If Google controls all the cars and trucks, they can control your standard of living.
 
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What was with those stupid, infantile fucking hats being worn by the audience?
 
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Last night there was reference that Google controls 90+% of the information search content in the USA,

If Google controlled 90% of oil, gas, railroads, steel, phones, cable they would be broken up in a heartbeat, antitrust hearings would be going on.

Google needs to be broken up, they control too much data, and when you control that data you can control the narrative of discussions, you have the power to make or break companies, people, news organizations.



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