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Allen West expresses my feelings better than I can:

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The judge’s decision on Bergdahl has me enraged beyond comprehension
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Allen West -November 3, 2017



A very delusional US Army Colonel Jeffery Nance just made one of the most abhorrent judicial decisions in U.S. military history. This person — hard for me to refer to him as a professional Army officer or a judge — decided that Army Sgt Bowe Bergdahl should receive a dishonorable discharge, but will serve no prison time.

Nance decided that Bergdahl had already served confinement with the enemy — albeit the same enemy that Bergdahl stated he trusted more than his own U.S. Army.

Let me explain something: a Soldier can get a dishonorable discharge for forging checks. Bergdahl pleaded guilty to the worst crimes a Soldier could commit…deserting his post in a combat zone and endangering fellow Soldiers.

And for this Colonel Nance to decry that Bergdahl has already suffered and received punishment, that he is suffering from some psychiatric disorder — that has nothing to do with his admitted crime. It’s a crime that under the Uniform Code of Military Justice is punishable by death, the least being life imprisonment.

What the heck is happening in the U.S. Army? So now we have two traitors with a mental condition who were guilty of the most heinous of crimes in uniform walking free? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!

What message does this send to our brave men and women who face the enemy…like an incarcerated Army 1LT Clint Lorance?

I am saying this directly to President Trump, put your freaking Twitter toy down and pardon Clint Lorance NOW! We are sick and tired of this and you can do something about it. There are men who lost their lives because of Bowe Bergdahl. As well, Colonel Jeffery Nance should be removed from serving on the Army bench.

What a disrespectful slap in the face to the families who lost their loved ones searching for this traitor, this coward. And to think, we released five senior Taliban commanders for this…and now this coward walks free? And spare me the pity party that his life is ruined with a dishonorable discharge; there are men who are dead. Where are the statements from the secretary of the Army or the chief of staff of the Army, surely they cannot agree and support this decision? Where is their outrage?

This is disgusting, appalling, and disconcerting. It truly reflects the damage Barack Obama did to our military is deep. And if we do not see any changes, then we will come to a realization that the current administration is complicit. Release Clint Lorance NOW, and perhaps we will find some solace in this utter travesty of so-called military justice. And just as a reminder, I know a little bit about how the Army system of “justice” works. Damn, it seems that abandoning your duty post, divulging classified information, or just abandoning Americans is more praised behavior today.

This is without a doubt the FUBAR award winner for 2017. Bowe Bergdahl, an admitted deserter walks free — let me remind y’all, Islamic jihadists don’t hold American troops for five years — and Bergdahl looked pretty healthy when he was released, and I never read of any signs of physical abuse. So what in the hell did Colonel Nance base his insidious decision upon? Seems to be Bergdahl had a five-year break, not a brutal imprisonment. Then after all, those were the consequences of his desertion…the consequences of his endangering other Soldiers is also very evident.

I am truly incensed beyond comprehension. I want Clint Lorance released from Ft. Leavenworth prison NOW and Colonel Jeffery Nance removed from the bench and charged with dereliction of duty. The last thing we damn need is judicial activism perverting and destroying our military justice system.



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Bergdahl should have received the same punishment as Eddie Slovak did, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik but Bergdahl’s offense was worse as soldiers died trying to rescue him.

To me, this is just further proof of the systemic rot that has infected the military over the past 20+ years.


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I almost believe that the judge made this ruling to spite President Trump.

Unless evidence to the contrary surfaces, I consider it a *purely* political decision.


The "judge" was probably wearing a "Resist" shirt under his robe. Either that or "Communism Will Win" like that little LT at the academy.
 
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Bergdahl should have received the same punishment as Eddie Slovak did, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik but Bergdahl’s offense was worse as soldiers died trying to rescue him.

To me, this is just further proof of the systemic rot that has infected the military over the past 20+ years.

what he said +100


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I'd be willing to bet he ends up with a general discharge and full benefits.


And full disability!


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My wife who leans left is dumbfounded by this decision too. I really hope for the worst for both Bowe and his family. The whole crew seems like a bunch of shit stains.
 
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Hey Bowe, Catch!




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This was not about Bergdahl.
This light sentence was about the Judge's political views.
He obviously was an Obama and Hillary supporter.

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — President Trump’s harsh criticism of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who walked off his Army post in Afghanistan in 2009 and was captured by the Taliban, will weigh in favor of a lighter sentence for the sergeant, a military judge said on Monday.

“I will consider the president’s comments as mitigation evidence as I arrive at an appropriate sentence,” the judge, Col. Jeffery R. Nance of the Army, said during a hearing at Fort Bragg.

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Can the president terminate the judge?




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Can a patriotic vigilante terminate this filthy traitor?

Please?


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One would hope that the Dishonorable Discharge would serve as a penalty to Bergdahl, but we all know he will financially prosper with movies and book deals, Soros will most likely throw money at him as well.

"Filthy traitor" is such a vague term, Judge or Deserter?



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I'd be willing to bet he ends up with a general discharge and full benefits.


And full disability!


Not with a dishonorable. It won't be upgraded (punitive discharges via courts-martial are forever).
 
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One would hope that the Dishonorable Discharge would serve as a penalty to Bergdahl, but we all know he will financially prosper with movies and book deals...


Maybe Harvard will offer him a teaching slot...
 
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Dishonorable discharge... oh no!

Is this guy ever going to do anything in his life where that would matter in the slightest?


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Can the president terminate the judge?

One thing for sure is that Nance won’t be getting any promotions to the rank of Brigadier General while Trump is in charge so he might as well think about retiring.
Based on his decision, one cannot help but speculate if his surname was originally Nancy.
 
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I'm coming in late to this thread but I want to add my WTF to the sentence.

It does injustice not only to the other things mentioned in this thread but to all the other military court trials and non-judicial punishment hearings. Shit, based on this case, some of those NJPs should be upgraded to receiving a medal instead. Crap.



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Originally posted by kimber1911:
This was not about Bergdahl.
This light sentence was about the Judge's political views.
He obviously was an Obama and Hillary supporter.


Obama treated this punk like he was some kind of hero. So I'll have to agree with your opinion about the judge's political leanings, and the effect it had on this decision.

I also believe the "judge" saw this as an opportunity to poke Trump in the eye.
 
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I also believe the "judge" saw this as an opportunity to poke Trump in the eye.


I suspect you’re right, but despite being disgusted by the sentence, either we respect the workings of our judicial system or we don’t.

In this case respecting the system requires us to accept—if not approve of—the judge’s ruling. Unlike some countries, here the prosecution cannot appeal the sentence and ask someone higher up to make it more severe no matter what motivated the judge’s decision, whether it was morally sincere or a petty personal dislike of the President. Be careful what we ask for because if this decision could be overturned by the President or someone else, so could future decisions made by different judges under different Presidents. We have to look back in time less than a year to realize how scary that prospect could be.

As someone who was involved in the military justice system for much of my life, calls to retaliate against a military judge because of a sentence we don’t like are more than a little disturbing to me.




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I suspect you’re right, but despite being disgusted by the sentence, either we respect the workings of our judicial system or we don’t.


in my case, I don't

no justice, no respect

period

they want respect, they can damned well earn it - right now they've flushed it all down the shitter



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