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Simple facts have no racial bias idiot. People will form their own educated opinions based on fact. Like the fact you are a racist twat.


I might suggest that some people their opinions based on fact. Many people determine "fact" based on their bias. As the movie line says (Starwars?) "what we see as truth depends on our point of view". I am sure BART is doing what they believe will bring the greater good (or, what will bring the least amount of hassle). Wink




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Posts: 28182 | Location: CA | Registered: November 11, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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And now the street cars. I wonder if they will release the surveillance footage of this.

California cops were searching for a mob of nearly a dozen people who mugged a man on a San Francisco streetcar on Monday evening.

“If you can just imagine, in a split moment, a crowd of people come up on you and then grabs your stuff. It’s hard to establish all those details when everything is just rushed right upon you,” San Francisco Police Officer Robert Rueca said.

Officer Rueca said the victim, a 27-year-old man, boarded a Muni bus and got into an argument with one person in a large group, KRON reported.

The man then got off the bus and boarded another to avoid conflict as 10 people, including the person involved in the verbal argument, followed him.

Once on the bus, the group of 10 people attacked the man, stole his cell phone, and fled.

One of the suspects was described as an 18-year-old male and the others ranged in age from 15-25, SF Gate reported.

No injuries were reported and no arrests have been made. The San Francisco Police Department is working to obtain surveillance footage of the incident from the Muni bus.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...cisco-streetcar.html
 
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Only in liberal stronghold cities do these shenanigans go on. If these victims aren't willing to demand at the top of their lungs on city halls steps that the facts be released, they get what they ask for.

I do not enter any large urban areas anymore, and neither will my family.




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1) Demand that they be able to freely exercise their 2A rights so that the can be responsible for their own safety. This person retreated and the crowd followed him. Should be able to stand his ground at the point.

2) No public agency should withhold facts. The government has CCTV and access to cameras. Perhaps the public should set up own set of cameras to keep the government in check. Smile The content of any publicly owned camera should be accessible to the public.




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1) Demand that they be able to freely exercise their 2A rights so that the can be responsible for their own safety. This person retreated and the crowd followed him. Should be able to stand his ground at the point.

2) No public agency should withhold facts. The government has CCTV and access to cameras. Perhaps the public should set up own set of cameras to keep the government in check. Smile The content of any publicly owned camera should be accessible to the public.


According to Colin Flaherty (?) video, the transcripts and video are available at the BART PD HQ at the Lake Merritt station. Hard copies only. I think that's they're work around withholding it from the public. You just have to work harder than simply releasing it electronically.


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The fun continues......

Richmond BART attack by 5-6 youth

A man was beaten and kicked in the head Thursday by a group of a half-dozen youths just outside the Richmond BART Station, police said.
The man, who was not identified, was expected to survive, said Lt. Felix Tan, a spokesman for the Richmond Police Department.
BART police initially responded to the scene around 11:30 a.m. — at the transit terminal frequented by buses directly outside the station — because they thought the incident was under their jurisdiction.
Five to six juveniles assaulted the man, according to BART police. Officers said they could not locate the attackers, who escaped in the surrounding neighborhood.
A motive in the assault was not immediately clear, Tan said. Police in Richmond were investigating, he said.


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The fun continues......

Richmond BART attack by 5-6 youth

A man was beaten and kicked in the head Thursday by a group of a half-dozen youths just outside the Richmond BART Station, police said.
The man, who was not identified, was expected to survive, said Lt. Felix Tan, a spokesman for the Richmond Police Department.
BART police initially responded to the scene around 11:30 a.m. — at the transit terminal frequented by buses directly outside the station — because they thought the incident was under their jurisdiction.
Five to six juveniles assaulted the man, according to BART police. Officers said they could not locate the attackers, who escaped in the surrounding neighborhood.
A motive in the assault was not immediately clear, Tan said. Police in Richmond were investigating, he said.


That station along with a handful of Oakland stations are as a rider, you pay-attention to who gets-on and keep your head on a swivel. Not surprised there was a violent encounter at that station, it's full ghetto around there, nothing but two-legged predators roaming around.
 
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Looks like a crazy homeless white guy. From the article, "n the first half of this year, robberies went up 35 percent and assaults were up 27 percent compared with the same period in 2016, agency figures released to The Chronicle revealed."

Triple Stabbing at Lafayette BART

A triple stabbing during an attempted robbery on a Lafayette BART platform Sunday morning alarmed riders on the region’s central transit system, while agency police officials, who have been grappling with a recent surge in crime, worked to catch the assailant.
The violence erupted on what had been a serene morning at one of BART’s statistically safest stations, as riders — many occasional weekend transit users — lined up to head into San Francisco for Fleet Week and the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass festival.
BART police closed the station for four hours while they searched for evidence, pulled security video of the attack and brought in cleaning crews to mop up the bloody aftermath of the violence.

Two victims were treated for wounds at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek and were expected to survive. A third victim left the station without speaking to police, authorities said.
BART officials hoped their extensive network of security cameras in stations and on trains captured video of the assailant, and planned to release any pictures of the man Monday, said Taylor Huckaby, a BART spokesman.
“Hopefully we will have a good picture,” he said. “We want to catch this guy.”
Law enforcement officials from various jurisdictions, including Lafayette police, joined in the search for the attacker, who they believe fled the scene on foot into the nearby neighborhood.
He was described as white, unshaven, in his 30s or 40s with blond hair, wearing a green army jacket and carrying a black backpack.
Riders showing up at the station throughout the morning and early afternoon were greeted by a single strand of yellow police tape at the entrance, where police and BART employees turned them away without giving details about the crime.
BART provided shuttle buses to nearby Orinda and Walnut Creek stations as trains moved through Lafayette without stopping during the investigation.
Many riders were unsettled when they learned what had happened at their local BART station that morning, but few said it would deter them from continuing to ride.
“I’m stunned — shocked at what happened,” said 34-year-old Lafayette resident Kevin Motl. “You never know. Something could happen any time and any place.”
The attack happened around 9:45 a.m. when the man in the army jacket approached a 20-year-old man on the platform and demanded his backpack.
When the victim refused, the assailant pulled out a knife and cut him across the forehead, officials said.
A second victim was stabbed in the hand during the ensuing attack. Both men were recovering at the hospital.
Police were working to identify a third victim, who witnesses said was stabbed but left the area without speaking to investigators.
Police did not say whether the victims knew each other or the assailant.
The stabbing prompted chaos on BART as paramedics treated the victims and police stopped and searched trains to no avail at nearby Pleasant Hill Station.
Lafayette Station was reopened at 1:45 p.m. as things returned to normal.
The attack is the latest in a series of high-profile crimes on the Bay Area’s backbone transit system, prompting increased patrols on trains and at stations.
In the first half of this year, robberies went up 35 percent and assaults were up 27 percent compared with the same period in 2016, agency figures released to The Chronicle revealed.
Lafayette Station, one of BART’s safest, has been largely immune to the kind of crimes that are mostly concentrated in a handful of stations in Oakland and San Francisco, in neighborhoods with relatively high crime rates.
“Our stations are snapshots of the communities we serve,” Huckaby said. “And Lafayette is not a high-crime area.”
Kristen Setliff, a 38-year-old physician from Lafayette, was one of about a dozen passengers who boarded the first train bound for San Francisco after the station reopened. She said the stabbing caused her to rethink taking BART.
“That is really crazy,” she said after learning of the triple stabbing. “But driving would be so much harder. BART is perfect for getting around.”
Others were undeterred by news of the violence, noting that in urban areas, trouble can happen anywhere.
“If you ride BART a lot, you know things can happen,” said Moraga resident Cameron Patera, a 19-year-old student at Diablo Valley College in Pleasant Hill. “Because BART runs through everywhere, you can see someone violent or unstable, which this person probably was, in a place like Lafayette where people assume everyone is peaches and cream.”
BART, which swore in new Police Chief Carlos Rojas in May, said it is aware of riders’ concerns and is working to boost patrols.
“We are doing our best to hire more officers and to make sure our passengers feel safe,” Huckaby said. “If no one feels safe, no one will ride BART, and that’s a problem for any transit agency.”


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It is now being reported that the suspected stabbing white guy was a theft victim attempting to retrieve his property from the thugs. As such, his race is no longer being mentioned, since he was originally a white victim. The real thug robbers' race has not been mentioned nor will it ever be mentioned. There's video surveillance but they will be locked up in a vault, never to be seen by public eyes.


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Basically, by them not releasing video and coming up with some PC bullshit, they're telling us the criminals are black.

Yep, way to go, BART. Roll Eyes


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Sounds like felonious self-defense. Better come down hard on that sort of thing. There's no telling where it could lead.

Remember: When crime strikes, resisting is the greater crime.




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It is now being reported that the suspected stabbing white guy was a theft victim attempting to retrieve his property from the thugs. As such, his race is no longer being mentioned, since he was originally a white victim. The real thug robbers' race has not been mentioned nor will it ever be mentioned. There's video surveillance but they will be locked up in a vault, never to be seen by public eyes.


Wow, I didn't see that. Are they still accusing white guy of stabbing or were the stabbing victims from the "other" assailants?


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It is now being reported that the suspected stabbing white guy was a theft victim attempting to retrieve his property from the thugs. As such, his race is no longer being mentioned, since he was originally a white victim. The real thug robbers' race has not been mentioned nor will it ever be mentioned. There's video surveillance but they will be locked up in a vault, never to be seen by public eyes.


Wow, I didn't see that. Are they still accusing white guy of stabbing or were the stabbing victims from the "other" assailants?


http://www.sfgate.com/crime/ar...station-12274307.php

The theft victim/stabber has turned himself in. The fight started on the train and ended up on the platform, and that's where the thieving scumbags were cut.

Even with surveillance footage of the thieves caught in the act, you just know zero charges will be filed against the scumbags with new holes put in them. After all, they're victims of "the man."


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