Delta is reviewing video and identifying anyone involved and will ban them from flying Delta ever again. Also, no checked firearms apparently for anyone flying to DC between now and the inauguration.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534...&utm_campaign=buffer

Delta will ban customers who were seen on video yelling at Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney

Delta’s CEO said this morning during an interview on CNBC that the airline will ban customers who were seen on video berating Senators Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney after they refused to challenge the Electoral College votes on January 6:

The FAA announced yesterday a policy change regarding unruly passengers, under FAA Order 2030.3c Change 4:

https://www.faa.gov/news/media...r2150.3C_CHG%204.pdf

In the past, the FAA has handled unruly passengers with warnings and other remedies. Criminal charges and fines up to 35,000 will be in effect through the end of March.

This is specifically targeted to on board the aircraft vs. in the terminal, where the local police or other authority will address the matter. Tantrums about politics, masks, or other problems are now zero tolerance.

As much as I enjoy the fact that these 'elites' got to experience just a taste of the simmering/festering frustration and dissatisfaction from We, The People, I have to agree that the airlines cannot allow disruptive passengers on an airliner. There are just too many security issues.

And, yes, I KNOW they would likely not have gotten put on a no-fly list if they heckled real republicans (those few remaining), or one of President Trump's (few) remaining loyal staffers. That's not the point.

There have to be significant ramifications for acting out on an airliner. The Air Marshall has better things to do, and nobody wants to 'out' him/her on a flight before the plane even takes off in case there are terrorists/hijackers planning something later in the flight. Also, the cabin crew can't be expected to handle unruly passengers - the vast majority of them just aren't trained or equipped for it.

Why doesn’t ANY corporation act this way when Democrats misbehave in public?

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Why doesn’t ANY corporation act this way when Democrats misbehave in public?

Good point. An identifiable person yells at Rino Romney in an airport, gets permanently banned by Delta. But an identifiable liberal is involved in violent protests, and Delta does nothing??

Ah, I thought they were placed on the no-fly list. Good to see it hasn't gone to that.

Tony.

Despite conspiracy theories to the contrary, cause an issue inside the secure area of an airport, or on board, and nobody will ask what party you belong to, and nobody will care when you're arrested.

If a flight has to divert for you, you'll be banned from flying on that airline for life, and if it leads to an arrest (it will if the flight diverted for you), then regardless of what your party, or your politics, or your conspiracy belief in masks, covid, or whatever other wild fantasy drove you to act out, you won't be flying again. You'll be welcome to take the bus, train, or rent a car, but you won't be flying again.

Assault someone in the terminal, and it won't matter what your reason was. It won't matter your party affiliation, religion, color, ethnicity, or what the political standing or job was of the other party.

Try it. See how it works out.

Can anyone provide an example of a democrat being treated in a similar fashion? It might not be but it sure feels like a one way street with these kind of things lately.

He won't stick because there's no example of that happening. Even if it did exist, he won't throw his fellow libs under the bus by pointing it out.

Also, for a guy that boohoo's about being run ragged by his employer, he sure does have a lot of time to post here on Sigforum.

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
He won't stick because there's no example of that happening. Even if it did exist, he won't throw his fellow libs under the bus by pointing it out.

Also, for a guy that boohoo's about being run ragged by his employer, he sure does have a lot of time to post here on Sigforum.

To whom are you referring?

Ain’t no need to fight guys. There is enough hostility right now. I didn’t mean for my question to cause strife.

Can anyone provide similar examples of the left getting put on a no fly list or facing consequences for their public outbursts?

There were no negative repercussions for these liberal anti-Kavanaugh protesters who harassed Republican lawmakers at the airport. Took a few seconds to find, I'm sure there are plenty of others out there.

https://thehill.com/homenews/s...kavanaugh-at-airport

Two sexual assault survivors and an Arizona state representative on Monday confronted GOP Sen. David Perdue (Ga.) at a Washington, D.C., airport over the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

The women pressed Perdue over his "yes" vote on Kavanaugh as they followed him through Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, sharing their personal experiences with the Georgia senator and his wife, who both largely ignored them, according to a video of the incident.

The confrontation is the latest in a string of similar interactions organized by liberal activists associated with the Center for Popular Democracy (CPD), an advocacy organization that opposes Kavanaugh's nomination.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) were also both confronted by women who identified themselves as survivors of sexual assault associated with the CPD at the airport on Monday.

Perdue, who is in his term in the Senate, ultimately disappeared into the men's bathroom as the women continued to shout after him.

"This is a legacy and a moment in history that will not be forgotten," one woman yelled after him.

The Cut identified the two sexual assault survivors as Patti Serrano and Jennifer Epps-Addison, who are both affiliated with the advocacy group Center for Popular Democracy.

The other woman in the video introduces herself as Arizona state Rep. Isela Blanc (D). Blanc, a vocal activist, was arrested over the summer for protesting President Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy.

Blanc's office did not immediately respond to The Hill's request for comment.

Blanc in the video walked in front of Perdue, holding out her hand to him as she introduced herself.

"Excuse me," he said, backing away from her. "If I'm touched another time..."

"I haven't touched you, sir," Blanc replies. "We're asking you to stand up for justice."

"How can you not talk to women who have been assaulted?" another woman asks as Perdue breaks away to enter the men's restroom. "How can you ignore our pleas?"

McConnell was also confronted by multiple women who called on him to respond to their complaints.



"Senator McConnell, do you always turn your back on women like this?" a woman asked McConnell as he walked out of the airport.

"Senator McConnell, why do women have to bare their whole soul to you?" another woman asked.

The CPD also helped organize an emotional demonstration for Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) last week, during which sexual assault survivors blocked elevator doors in the Capitol as they pleaded with Flake to hear their voices.

McConnell, Corker and Perdue have largely stood behind Kavanaugh in the face of accusations of sexual misconduct from three women. McConnell on Tuesday vowed that the Senate will vote on Kavanaugh "this week," after the one-week FBI investigation into the allegations is complete.

Survivors of sexual assault have mobilized behind the women accusing Kavanaugh, in particular Christine Blasey Ford, who testified last week before the Senate Judiciary Committee about her allegation that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed and groped her during a high school party in 1982.

Another woman, Deborah Ramirez, has alleged Kavanaugh exposed himself without her consent and thrust his penis into her face during a Yale University gathering in 1980.

Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the accusations, calling them "false" and a "smear."

Hundreds of survivors have flooded the Capitol in the wake of the allegations, sharing their stories of rape and abuse in front of lawmakers' offices as they urge the Senate to vote "no."

Nothing bad for these activists who confronted Ted Cruz at the airport:

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog...cruz-at-airport-over

Nothing happened to these liberal activists who confronted a Republican Congressman at the airport in Miami:

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/...immigration-10483584

Do we need any more examples or do we want to continue to pretend that politics doesn't play a part in enforcement? Of course it does, only a blind/deaf person would suggest otherwise.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Why doesn’t ANY corporation act this way when Democrats misbehave in public?

Needs to be posted on Delta's FB page.

Republican Congressman harassed while in flight - no consequences for the liberal activist.

https://www.businessinsider.co...ring-shutdown-2019-1

Michigan Senate Leader swarmed at airport by activists - no consequences other than cheering the activists on.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/ne...g-to-meet-with-trump

Continue, or is that enough to debunk the assertion that airport security is air tight, zero tolerance and politically blind?

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Can anyone provide similar examples of the left getting put on a no fly list or facing consequences for their public outbursts?

You'll find that anyone that crosses the line right now will face the same consequences, regardless of politics.

What you may or may not have seen as consequences a year ago will not be the same as what you'll see right now, especially in the wake of the capitol overrun. That does have a direct impact on responses being taken now at airports, and it won't matter which side of the aisle someone is on.

The FAA announcement was on the 13th. Look for the treatment of those causing issues in airports and onboard flights, from that time going forward. In Airlines and airports experienced an increase in activity, especially following the capitol uprising, and present response is tied to that.

Not so long ago while riding on a flight, in uniform, a young man next to me felt it best to tell me what he thought about Covid and masks. That's fine. I don't care what he thought, but he didn't want to shut up, and there's no law against offering an opinion. He escalated, making himself angrier, until he punched the seat and balled up his fists, and began to yell. He caught himself, calmed down, about the time we arrived at the destination. I stepped across the aisle and let him out, and he went on his way.

He was a step from being removed, and not flying again. He lived in an area where the only access is by air, and it would have been a significant impediment to be unable to fly.

If someone wants to have an opinion, they're welcome to it. They're even welcome to share it. There's a line to cross when it comes to ramming it down others throats, and a simple test is that if your behavior doesn't match that of everyone else on the airplane, perhaps you're the one out of line. There may be consequences. The same holds true in the terminal. It's not really the place to protest. "Fire" in a crowded theater doesn't work. Neither do a lot of other things in an airport or in an airplane. If one feels the need to push, shove, get in someone else face, or raise one's voice, then one is out of line. Consequences will ensue.

Part of being an adult is understanding that no, you can't always speak your mind.

Actually you can if you’re a democrat. It seems like every day rules are only applied to one side while the other side’s violence, rhetoric and hate is spun as acceptable and necessary.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
As much as I enjoy the fact that these 'elites' got to experience just a taste of the simmering/festering frustration and dissatisfaction from We, The People, I have to agree that the airlines cannot allow disruptive passengers on an airliner. There are just too many security issues.

And, yes, I KNOW they would likely not have gotten put on a no-fly list if they heckled real republicans (those few remaining), or one of President Trump's (few) remaining loyal staffers. That's not the point.

There have to be significant ramifications for acting out on an airliner. The Air Marshall has better things to do, and nobody wants to 'out' him/her on a flight before the plane even takes off in case there are terrorists/hijackers planning something later in the flight. Also, the cabin crew can't be expected to handle unruly passengers - the vast majority of them just aren't trained or equipped for it.

Bullshit, they were calling out a paid off piece of shit so called politician. This had NOTHING to do with flight security or terrorism.