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Jhe888, I've got your formula right, that's 2gr/hooker. What about their employer? Is it customary for the employer to take a percentage of the each hookers share or does he procure additional amounts for himself?
 
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Jhe888, I've got your formula right, that's 2gr/hooker. What about their employer? Is it customary for the employer to take a percentage of the each hookers share or does he procure additional amounts for himself?


It's just a rough rule of thumb - like buying beer for a party.




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clip...clip....clip....clip

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I'm taking this with a grain of salt.


Ha.

But I did once read of a new reloader who was making up some .38 Special loads with Bullseye. He complained that picking up and getting just three "grains" of Bullseye into a case was a huge pain in the ass. Apparently he thought that meant three flakes of the powder.

I don't know if it is true, but it ought to be.


Wow. How did this guy think he would load in partial grains? Moving up to 3.2 grains would be really difficult, what with cutting those tiny flakes into fifths.



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When buying meat from said butcher, does he slice it with the grain, or against the grain?


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Not exactly the same thing but in the general ball park...as a young boy I told my Dad that for Christmas I wanted a "twenty-two shotgun". He kind of chuckled and told me there wasn't such a thing. Fast forward to 1987. I was stationed in Germany and went to Frankonia-Jagd which is kind of like a high end Dick's or Cabella's. Anyway, I discovered that there WAS such a thing. It was called a Drilling. This particular one was a double barreled shotgun in 20 gauge with a .22 hornet barrel under the two shotgun barrels. The dollar was strong and IIRC it was over 3:1 at the time so I bought it for my Dad for Christmas. It wasn't one of the super expensive, high end versions that were so beautiful and all engraved and such but was pretty nice. It was more like the equivalent of our Sears brand gun. He LOVED it. To his credit he even remembered that he had told me that these didn't exist.

It looked like this...





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Solid rant, sir.

I frequently convert between grains and grams, as my blow reloading scale is actually a professional laboratory scale, courtesy of my chemist father. I find it incredible how something so simple can just baffle some folks... it's like speaking a foreign language.




 
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This is akin to calling a magazine a clip. Yeah, everyone will know what you mean, but to those in the know, you sound like a maroon when you misuse "grain." We are the gun people, so lets sound like it.


I think you mean moron.


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Not exactly the same thing but in the general ball park...as a young boy I told my Dad that for Christmas I wanted a "twenty-two shotgun". He kind of chuckled and told me there wasn't such a thing. Fast forward to 1987. I was stationed in Germany and went to Frankonia-Jagd which is kind of like a high end Dick's or Cabella's. Anyway, I discovered that there WAS such a thing. It was called a Drilling. This particular one was a double barreled shotgun in 20 gauge with a .22 hornet barrel under the two shotgun barrels. The dollar was strong and IIRC it was over 3:1 at the time so I bought it for my Dad for Christmas. It wasn't one of the super expensive, high end versions that were so beautiful and all engraved and such but was pretty nice. It was more like the equivalent of our Sears brand gun. He LOVED it. To his credit he even remembered that he had told me that these didn't exist.

It looked like this...


I remember those drillings. Saw a BUNCH of them when stationed in Germany. My father in law was a German forester and I got to do a lot of hunting with foresters and civilian hunters.

Shot a couple of those drillings as well. Very nice guns. AIR, even saw a couple with scopes mounted, but am pretty sure the rifled barrel was something like 8MM.


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BTW, if you are measuring blow, there are 15.43 grains to the gram. You can use your reloading scale to mete it out.


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It's a common way of saying such a thing it may be lazy English but I don't care and am likely guilty of it along with many other folks in the shooting community. Call it slang or whatever you want but it's here to stay.


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That is not slang. Slang is using "heater" for "gun" or calling your friend your "homeboy."

Using "grain" in that way is bad grammar and poor usage, plain and simple. You can choose to use English well or not, but it isn't slang.




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"Three hookers.....six.....grams." Got it.

The "three grains of Bullseye" is credible to me just because we're used to using the word "grain" as a noun that describes a particular object rather than a unit of weight. That and the word "granule" doesn't just flow from the lips.

BTW, does anyone other than gun nuts use "grain" as a unit of measure for weight any more?
 
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"Three hookers.....six.....grams." Got it.

The "three grains of Bullseye" is credible to me just because we're used to using the word "grain" as a noun that describes a particular object rather than a unit of weight. That and the word "granule" doesn't just flow from the lips.

BTW, does anyone other than gun nuts use "grain" as a unit of measure for weight any more?


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BTW, does anyone other than gun nuts use "grain" as a unit of measure for weight any more?

Wikipedia says grains are used to measure the weight of arrows (never heard that before), and also dentists use grains when measuring gold foil. Other than those two, I did not find any additional current references to the use of grains.
 
 
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When buying meat from said butcher, does he slice it with the grain, or against the grain?


if he is a Butcher, it is cutting against the grain, if he is not, he is either a new apprentice, or soon to be out of work,



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