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Deposit Holds on Cashiers Checks

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January 07, 2021, 03:46 PM
Dwill104
Deposit Holds on Cashiers Checks
Went to deposit a cashier’s check from a major nationwide bank into my credit union checking account. They put a 8 day hold on releasing the funds. WTF? It’s a cashiers check from a bank, which means that it’s drawn on the bank’s account, not a personal account. It’s for a large amount, but I always thought that a cashiers check was like cash. What’s the point of cashiers checks if they are going to be treated the same as a personal check?
January 07, 2021, 03:54 PM
sigmonkey
Fraud.

Cashier and Bank check fraud is a big deal, because many people will accept a bank/cashier check on big ticket items, and crook and stuff disappear before the check clears, and the acceptor is stuck with the trouble.

Yes, a call could be made to verify the checks, but it is acceptable practice to "clear paper checks" via mail/courier, so that is often the standard practice for some banking companies and credit unions.




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January 07, 2021, 05:49 PM
rburg
There is another way. Its called a universal gift card. Or cards. They're also called $100 bills. I know cash money is scary to some folks. First, you've got to have the funds to begin with. Of course we're not talking house purchase amounts, but you can carry car purchase amounts with you. If you finance, its a non-issue.

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January 07, 2021, 05:52 PM
220-9er
A regular check will clear before a cashiers check nowadays.
A wire transfer is the best way for quick funds availability.


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January 07, 2021, 06:11 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
A regular check will clear before a cashiers check nowadays.
A wire transfer is the best way for quick funds availability.


Even then, a wire transfer now takes a day or sometimes 2 depending on where it's coming from (country).
January 07, 2021, 06:22 PM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by bigeinkcmo:
The best way I've found if you want the funds immediately on a cashier's check is to go directly to a branch of the bank that issued it. Not always convenient though.


Unfortunately, that’s not an option in this instance. If I simply went to a different branch of the same bank, I assume that I could have just transferred the funds since they would be accounts of the same bank.

And, we are talking a house sale type amount here, although it wasn’t from a house sale. It’s just disappointing that cashiers checks are treated the same as, or worse than, personal checks. There seems little point in cashiers checks, then. I should have just gotten cash.
January 07, 2021, 06:24 PM
DaBigBR
Cashier's check fraud is extremely rampant. It's unfortunate that it's coming to the point that it's keeping legitimate transactions from being processed but it doesn't surprise me.

Direct wires are the way to go when other electronic payments are not an option and the funds must be sent quickly and reliably.
January 07, 2021, 07:25 PM
mcrimm
Wire transfers are fast.



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January 07, 2021, 08:29 PM
LS1 GTO
My question to the OP, how much over your asking price was the cashier's check for? Big Grin







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January 07, 2021, 10:39 PM
GWbiker
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Wire transfers are fast.


But, again be careful. Wire transfers have been sent or intercepted to the wrong accounts, never to be seen again.

Advice given to me by my Escrow agent.


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January 08, 2021, 07:46 AM
Kskelton
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
My question to the OP, how much over your asking price was the cashier's check for? Big Grin


Hahaha this actually made me laugh.


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January 08, 2021, 09:27 AM
mcrimm
quote:
Originally posted by GWbiker:
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
Wire transfers are fast.


But, again be careful. Wire transfers have been sent or intercepted to the wrong accounts, never to be seen again.

Advice given to me by my Escrow agent.


In 40+ years of banking and wife's 20+ years in escrow, I never heard of this happening.



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January 08, 2021, 09:35 AM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
quote:
Originally posted by GWbiker:
But, again be careful. Wire transfers have been sent or intercepted to the wrong accounts, never to be seen again.

Advice given to me by my Escrow agent.


In 40+ years of banking and wife's 20+ years in escrow, I never heard of this happening.


Apparently it’s a new scam. Scammers find out you are closing a property, and they send you an email posing as the title company, with wire instructions. You wire the funds, and *poof*, your money is gone forever, wired overseas.

I bought three houses in 2019. The bank clerk asked me every time, “Where did you get these instructions?” She was satisfied after I told her that the title company had printed them out, and I had hand carried them to the bank. Be careful out there. Loosing a couple hundred thousand because you had scam wire instructions would be devastating to most people.



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January 08, 2021, 10:38 AM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
My question to the OP, how much over your asking price was the cashier's check for? Big Grin


??? I’m not sure what this question means.
January 08, 2021, 11:08 AM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by Dwill104:
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
My question to the OP, how much over your asking price was the cashier's check for? Big Grin


??? I’m not sure what this question means.


It's a joke, playing off the common over-payment scam.

A common scam is to contact people who are selling something, say a vehicle, and then send a cashier's check for the sale price plus some more, like the shipping. They then ask you to deposit the check and send them the difference, which they'll supposedly give to the shipper. A week later you find out the check was a fake, and you're out the difference.

They do it with my rentals as well. "I'd like your apartment. My granny will send you a check for the deposit plus some extra for me to move. Deposit the check and send me the extra and then I'll move in."



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January 08, 2021, 03:23 PM
GWbiker
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
quote:
Originally posted by mcrimm:
quote:
Originally posted by GWbiker:
But, again be careful. Wire transfers have been sent or intercepted to the wrong accounts, never to be seen again.

Advice given to me by my Escrow agent.


In 40+ years of banking and wife's 20+ years in escrow, I never heard of this happening.


Apparently it’s a new scam. Scammers find out you are closing a property, and they send you an email posing as the title company, with wire instructions. You wire the funds, and *poof*, your money is gone forever, wired overseas.

I bought three houses in 2019. The bank clerk asked me every time, “Where did you get these instructions?” She was satisfied after I told her that the title company had printed them out, and I had hand carried them to the bank. Be careful out there. Loosing a couple hundred thousand because you had scam wire instructions would be devastating to most people.


Fellow down here lost $800,000 to that scam a couple of years ago.

When I wired $150K from Pennsylvania to title/escrow company in Arizona, I had to provide a ton of personal information to my CU in Pa before they would wire the cash.

Instruction on wire transfer given me in Tucson were in a sealed document on day of transfer.

It's a new scam, I'm told.


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January 08, 2021, 04:47 PM
jimb888
Zelle is a fast instant bank to bank transfer that is better than cashiers checks for a seller. However, if you send it over and regret the purchase, you won't get it back like a CC purchase that can be disputed.
January 08, 2021, 04:48 PM
jljones
Yep. You can thank all the people that make their money through fraud for this. My local bank usually releases funds within about 48 hours to me from a cashier's check. But, I have the money to cover it in accounts always.

I used to pay child support by cashier's check. My ex would take the check to the same bank that the check was issued from. They wouldn't show her the available money until the following day.




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January 11, 2021, 08:22 PM
lakeray
I once deposited a check from thE TREASURY DEPAMENT (A REFUND CHECK ON TAXES) AND THE BANK PUT IT ON A 15 DAY HOLD...



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January 11, 2021, 09:02 PM
rburg
quote:
Originally posted by lakeray:
I once deposited a check from thE TREASURY DEPAMENT (A REFUND CHECK ON TAXES) AND THE BANK PUT IT ON A 15 DAY HOLD...


You need a new bank. And tell the old one why.


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