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So maybe I've officially obtained old fart status. "Back I'm my day..."

Looking to upgrade some of my cold weather gear. Over the years I've bought a lot of Columbia clothing. I've got waterproof shell with zip in fleece liner that I bought for my first trip to Alaska over 20 years ago. It's looking a little worn and I never was crazy about the color, but it's always kept me warm dry. Looking at the new ones; material isn't nearly as heavy, the seams seem very light duty, velcro instead of snaps for secondary closure, UGH!

I'm really starting to hate it when long standing brands give up on what made their name and race to the bottom in quality for lower pricing and more consumer appeal.




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Posts: 11260 | Location: Eagle River, AK | Registered: September 12, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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It's especially prone to happen when technical/work clothing brands catch on with the masses, get popular, and start to morph into just fashion brands. People are willing to pay more for higher end materials when the items serves a specific purpose, and are less willing to pay that premium for "just (fashion) clothing", so it can become a race to the bottom to cut corners in order to allow the price point to appeal to the "just clothing" masses.

I suspect that's the likely the case with Columbia. What used to be good quality outdoors clothing is probably now becoming moderate quality fashion-driven clothing.
 
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They want to “mainstream” anything. My problem is I don’t like mainstream shit. I want better and willing to pay extra for quality. But when quality is hard to find, well I get your complaint. Just make what you used to make. If not go elsewhere.



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Craftsman tools. We’ve discussed them ad nauseum.


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Turning a brand's quality reputation into money. Continually cheapen the product until people figure it out and quit buying it. Happens to every brand.
 
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This all started globally whenever whoever the fuck it was opened prc. Even many Japanese brands have gone to shit. Should’ve just left prc in the dark ages. Greedy idiots.




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WeatherTech also. Their quality is nothing like what it was years ago.



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I've got an old Woolrich heavy twill shirt that has been my primary birdhunting shirt for more than 20 years. It looks like it's been through a lot of thorny patches. Last fall, I looked (briefly) at the Woolrich website. I don't know if their clothes are still any good; it took me only a few minutes to realize I was no longer a part of their target customer group. That was after I realized I wasn't looking at an Adderall advertisment.
 
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Brands that aren't what they used to be


Uh...that'd be pretty much ALL of them, IMHO. It's rapidly getting to the point you can't get quality goods no matter HOW much you pay.




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Craftsman tools. We’ve discussed them ad nauseum.


Yeah those have been a horrible disappointment. I bought an electric planer cheap because a friend said it was good for the price. Haven’t had a chance to test it yet.
 
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Television. All crap now and more ads than program.



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Sony. Last couple of Sony TV's I've had were shit. Won't buy another.




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Brooks Brothers clothing. I bought 5 sweaters that were made in England with Scottish wool. Bought them some 30 years ago and I still wear them. They've held up well.

Years later, BB clothing then were made in China.

Last I heard, Brooks Brothers filed for Bankruptcy.


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Russell comes to mind. All my T-shirts were Russell and lasted for years. My sweats were too.
No more. Cheap crap.


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Porter-Cable. I have an older corded circular saw that is built like a tank. Also had a cordless drill from when cordless was a new thing. It was super well built. Their stuff today is junk.


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Danner Boots, with the exception of the few remaining made in the USA models.



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Porter-Cable. I have an older corded circular saw that is built like a tank. Also had a cordless drill from when cordless was a new thing. It was super well built. Their stuff today is junk.


One reason for that is that P-C isn't P-C any more, it's Black & Decker, which has been crap for years.

For the moment, Makita, Bosch and Milwaukee still build decent power tools.




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Timberland boots, Justin boots, Land's End clothing.

I hope Carhartt doesn't go the same way.



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Interstate Batteries. Aren't what they were 10 years ago. Don't last near as long. If you want cold weather gear the Alaskan Hard Gear from Duluth Trading has been good I have quite a bit of it although I have issues with DT in general.

Also all my ice fishing cold weather gear is Striker Ice brand. Has held up well and is very warm. As a bonus if you fall through the ice it will keep you afloat long enough to get yourself out. Hopefully.


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It might be quicker to list the brands that are as good or better than they were years ago.
 
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