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This is handy because both of our schedules are erratic and frequently change. And easy to log in and cool/heat the house so it is at a good temp when we arrive home. Also more economical and got a rebate on it from the power company.

I had a progrwmmable one that I replaced as it was a pain to constantly change the program or to remember to constantly change it.





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This is handy because both of our schedules are erratic and frequently change.


Unless I misunderstand the way the Nest "learns" this is an awful fit and makes it useless since it can't establish a pattern.

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And easy to log in and cool/heat the house so it is at a good temp when we arrive home.


Again, this is why something like Sensi works better IMONSHO. Yes you can set up programs to run for "normal" schedule, whatever that is, or have "normal 1" "normal 2" etc. options that you can run as appropriate.

Want to change to a temp when you're headed home early from work or vacation - just open app and hit the app or down arrows to desired temperature.

Good luck!



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I guess I'm the only who has a Nest, has it work properly, and likes it. I've had mine for just over 2 years now and love it.

I'm sorry you've had so many issues Kevin. You are a very patient man for being on hold for so long!
 
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We just use the honeywell programable. It floats between an upper and lower setting (like 69 and 72) kicking on AC or Heat as needed depending on the season. And it has about 4 or 5 settings per day and can be tuned for each specific day of the week. So it knows to go down a few degrees right at bedtime, come up a degree when time to wake up, and maybe have a bigger float width during the day when we are all out of the house. And I can set it so it knows I sleep late on Saturdays and get up a little later on Sunday than I do on weekdays, etc.

Set it all up when I got it, and haven't messed with it since then.

Also has an input for a thermistor that tells it the outdoor temp so it can decide if heat pump is sufficient or if it needs to turn on the propane furnace.


Same. The Honeywell “app” isn’t anything special. But it worked fine for me for 5-6 years now. I have the thermostat programmed for the season and I don’t mess with it. Based on work schedule, heat, sunlight, blah blah. it’s nice, like a remote control, to be in a room, want to turn it down a degree or two and just press some glass and not move.

I want nothing to do with Nest, google, Alexa, etc devices. All home automation stuff I have is from a well established mfr vs. Silicon Valley.



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the simpler anything i use is, the better my life goes. yep, i'm old
 
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They make a 4 wire power adapter you wire in if the cable is 4 and not 5.

However, if you do have a 5 wire, the fix is simple.

Go to your air handler and open the panel to see if they have the 5th wire wrapped back, unwrap it and connect to the 24v connection, then pop the thermostat off and connect the 5th wire.

If your cable is 4 wire the adapter/splitter is available.

Mine drove me nuts the first few days until I discovered this.


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Posts: 34108 | Location: North, GA | Registered: October 09, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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When our house was built, 1996, the builder put in a programmable thermostat. This was all well before the ‘nest’ type.

We never used any programmable features. I ended up replacing with a simple dial thermostat, works great.

Yeah, a ‘generational’ thing. I really don’t need to be adjusting it from 200 miles away. I have my wood stove too, so I guess I’m somewhat of a throwback.
 
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Yep.
Mine is digital but not programmable. I leave for work and I adjust it up or down depending on the season. I get home and I adjust it again.
Not saying anyone is wrong to have a programmable unit, I just like simple and unobtrusive.


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Everyone in the trade knows Nests are junk. Can’t tell you how many I’ve replaced and my company has replaced.


I thought I was the only one who thought that. Everyone seems to praise them. I guess when you pay that much for something you feel you need to justify it.
 
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Never had a problem with mine in the several years I've owned it.
Even after replacing my HVAC system...

I've never used the 'learning' stuff, I just keep it on a schedule..

I must be the 'chosen one'.. Roll Eyes
 
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Has anyone ever conducted a scientifically rigorous experiment and documented any savings from moving the temp up and down on a daily basis?

My suspicion is that the savings are minuscule and one would never amortize the cost of the "intelligent" thermostat.




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I really prefer a traditional "set it" thermostat. The ones we currently have are programmable, but we don't program them. We also have a bevy of mini-splits, which come with a remote. The remote has a timer function, but again we don't use that, just set the unit to a comfort level. The nice thing about the mini-splits is they zone off the house so we can set comfort levels for each zone.



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I really prefer a traditional "set it" thermostat. The ones we currently have are programmable, but we don't program them. We also have a bevy of mini-splits, which come with a remote. The remote has a timer function, but again we don't use that, just set the unit to a comfort level. The nice thing about the mini-splits is they zone off the house so we can set comfort levels for each zone.


We have a minisplit for our sunroom. Do you control the temps with the remotes or a wired wall mounted control? We find the wired control more accurate in maintaining the set temp. Also less cycling.


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Thank you for the review and info. I will maintain status quo with my Honeywell.


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I have an Ecobee3 that wants me to connect it with home WiFi.

Uh, no I told it. Just keep it simple.


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I have 11 years of our electric bills in my files. I can prove that programming a thermostat costs more money. Two years ago we put our thermostat on "Permanent Hold" and seldom make any changes. Our electric bills have gone down.



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I have 11 years of our electric bills in my files. I can prove that programming a thermostat costs more money.

Depends upon your use case.



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I have an Ecobee3 that wants me to connect it with home WiFi.

Uh, no I told it. Just keep it simple.


I just bought two of these for our rental home at the beach. Hopefully we will be able to program it so that the renters don’t crank it down to 60 degrees and leave the sliding doors onto the deck open. I’m hoping that my $7-800 / month electric bill in the summer will go down quite a bit...


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I have an Ecobee3 that wants me to connect it with home WiFi.

Uh, no I told it. Just keep it simple.


I just bought two of these for our rental home at the beach. Hopefully we will be able to program it so that the renters don’t crank it down to 60 degrees and leave the sliding doors onto the deck open. I’m hoping that my $7-800 / month electric bill in the summer will go down quite a bit...


Your renters do pay for their own utilities, don't they.

And, $7-800 a month electric bill? How big is your home?


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