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Let me tell you what, I will NEVER buy a Nest Thermostat again...

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November 16, 2020, 10:06 PM
RAMIUS
Let me tell you what, I will NEVER buy a Nest Thermostat again...
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I guess I'm the only who has a Nest, has it work properly, and likes it. I've had mine for just over 2 years now and love it.

I'm sorry you've had so many issues Kevin. You are a very patient man for being on hold for so long!


Love my nest too. Haven’t had any issues at all. It’s been fantastic.
November 17, 2020, 12:30 AM
XLT
it all started with the tv remote.
November 17, 2020, 12:37 AM
SigSAC
I had to replace my system just under two years ago. They installed a Honeywell T6 - has programming, geo-fence, and remote change via an app on your phone. I keep the the system somewhat close to what I want when I get home, then change it as necessary on my way.

Home Depot has versions of this unit - the T6 is nominally the one that contractors get - there are similar models that are sold to consumers.
November 17, 2020, 10:55 AM
bonfire
Go Honeywell. I have one of their wifi models and it is been solid for two years. I can do adjust the schedule from my phone which is easier and you can make adjustments on the fly.


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November 17, 2020, 04:14 PM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I guess I'm the only who has a Nest, has it work properly, and likes it. I've had mine for just over 2 years now and love it.

I'm sorry you've had so many issues Kevin. You are a very patient man for being on hold for so long!


You are not alone, we've had one for several years, works as advertised, did have one issue on upgradeability, the original T-stat couldn't handle the upgrade, Nest sent us a replacement at no charge for that one....

Software could use some improvements, reporting could be better as well.

But all in all,,,, It will Cool Big Grin
November 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
flesheatingvirus
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I guess I'm the only who has a Nest, has it work properly, and likes it. I've had mine for just over 2 years now and love it.

I'm sorry you've had so many issues Kevin. You are a very patient man for being on hold for so long!


I have 2 in my new house. No issues.


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November 19, 2020, 11:00 AM
HRK
quote:
Your renters do pay for their own utilities, don't they.

And, $7-800 a month electric bill? How big is your home?


Guessing it's a vacation rental property, and you'd be surprised how low people will set hotel and rental condo T-stats since they don't foot the bill directly. We had a rental condo on the beach, people would open the doors for the "fresh beach air" and go out all day, letting the AC run continuously. Most owners put switches on the doors, you leave them open over 15 minutes and it turns off the power to the AC...
November 20, 2020, 12:33 PM
Calif Phil
4 years with our Nest T-stat and no issues, in fact I recently installed a Nest outdoor camera and they both share the same app.
November 20, 2020, 01:55 PM
CoolRich59
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I guess I'm the only who has a Nest, has it work properly, and likes it. I've had mine for just over 2 years now and love it.

I'm sorry you've had so many issues Kevin. You are a very patient man for being on hold for so long!

I didn't see this post originally, but I'm a Nest fan too.

We installed one when we moved into this house 6+ years ago and have never had an issue with it.

It's not just a fancy gadget either; it has saved us a lot of money on our electric bills.

For example, if we go out of town, I set it to Eco mode when we leave, which drops the temp to 50 degrees. A couple of hours before we return, I open the app and turn off Eco mode. By the time we get home, the house is nice and warm.


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November 20, 2020, 02:05 PM
CoolRich59
quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
Has anyone ever conducted a scientifically rigorous experiment and documented any savings from moving the temp up and down on a daily basis?

My suspicion is that the savings are minuscule and one would never amortize the cost of the "intelligent" thermostat.

That's a good question.

I have never seen any studies, but we used to have ours set to go down 50 degrees at 10pm and then back up to 68 around 6am.

I was talking to our HVAC tech and he told me that we should not set it so low at night because we were losing any savings when the furnace had to run extra long in the morning to heat the house back up.

Now I have set to drop to 60 at night, but I don't even know if that's the right number. It would be great if there was data that had recommended settings.


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November 20, 2020, 06:33 PM
remsig
quote:
Originally posted by CoolRich59:
For example, if we go out of town, I set it to Eco mode when we leave, which drops the temp to 50 degrees. A couple of hours before we return, I open the app and turn off Eco mode. By the time we get home, the house is nice and warm.


Yep, that's a great help. I set the schedule to lower the temp while I'm at work and then warm up before I get home.

I'm moving to a new home in 7 days and the thermostat that was put in is being removed and my Nest is being installed in it's place.
November 20, 2020, 08:53 PM
wreckdiver
Thank you for posting this, I was about to buy one for when we were on vacation. Not now for sure!!


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February 08, 2021, 04:02 PM
remsig
quote:
Originally posted by remsig:
I'm moving to a new home in 7 days and the thermostat that was put in is being removed and my Nest is being installed in it's place.


Moved in on November 27th but didn't get the Nest installed until January 31st. Old house had 4 wires/new house has 5. I was stumped on the difference and finally broke down and paid a company to wire it up for me.

Of course I didn't listen to my brother on how to hook it up(he's in Fl, I'm in OH.) He's an AC automation engineer and has been in the business, starting as a mechanic, for almost 40 years Eek

With that being said, I still love my Nest, and am very thankful I got it hooked up again. Yesterday the temp outside barely rose above 15 degrees and my heat only ran for 3 hours. With my other thermostat that was in my house I would just set it at a certain temperature and be stuck with that temperature or be forced to get up and change the temp Roll Eyes LOL It's super convenient, especially when upstairs in bed and the Nest is downstairs.
February 11, 2021, 02:05 PM
smlsig
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
quote:
Your renters do pay for their own utilities, don't they.

And, $7-800 a month electric bill? How big is your home?


Guessing it's a vacation rental property, and you'd be surprised how low people will set hotel and rental condo T-stats since they don't foot the bill directly. We had a rental condo on the beach, people would open the doors for the "fresh beach air" and go out all day, letting the AC run continuously. Most owners put switches on the doors, you leave them open over 15 minutes and it turns off the power to the AC...


Yes it is a vacation rental home in the Outer Banks of NC. 4 bdrm/4bath, 2300 sf with a pool and hot tub. But I’ve been told people leave the doors and windows open so they can hear the waves while they fall asleep with the AC set to 60...

We’ll see how it goes this year as I can see and override the system from my iPhone..


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February 12, 2021, 09:59 AM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
Yes it is a vacation rental home in the Outer Banks of NC. 4 bdrm/4bath, 2300 sf with a pool and hot tub. But I’ve been told people leave the doors and windows open so they can hear the waves while they fall asleep with the AC set to 60...

We’ll see how it goes this year as I can see and override the system from my iPhone..


I would check with a local AC company about having timed delay switches put on the doors as well. So if they are running the AC at low temps all hours and burning up your costs, as well as equipment, if the doors are left open for a minimum time, say 15 minutes, the AC unit shuts down.

Otherwise you're going to be up all day and night resetting the t-stat.

I believe you can lock down a Nest with a passcode, which would fix the problem of people moving the t-stat constantly...
February 12, 2021, 02:22 PM
brecaidra
It seems that in this regard I'm the old geezer of the group. When we first moved into our home there was a Honeywell programmable thermostat which I thought would be nice, but it wasn't long before I was insisting that we replace it with an old fashioned dial. You're cold, twist it clockwise; you're hot twist it counter-clockwise. I may have threatened to install a locking cover over it a couple times, but I'm satisfied with it.

I don't see how connecting all this technology to the internet is a good idea- we've all seen Terminator, and some of us have seen Runaway. Wink




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February 12, 2021, 02:39 PM
HRK
quote:
It seems that in this regard I'm the old geezer of the group. When we first moved into our home there was a Honeywell programmable thermostat which I thought would be nice, but it wasn't long before I was insisting that we replace it with an old fashioned dial. You're cold, twist it clockwise; you're hot twist it counter-clockwise. I may have threatened to install a locking cover over it a couple times, but I'm satisfied with it.



The nest is a digital dial, similar, twist clockwise for higher temps, twist counter clock wise for lower temps.

The nice thing is you can bring up the app on your iStuff and not have to get out from under the blanket on the sofa and miss part of the tv show to change the temp LOL