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Thanks Southfloridalaw, will check out the link.

This company will not be hiring any "local" workers. It will not bring the county anything, except tax money. The county won't even be getting any of the gravel!


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Posts: 4518 | Location: Southern Colorado | Registered: January 01, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by bigpond73:

......This will be a big concern for the county. I am not sure they can maintain the county road (and a bridge) with that much traffic, especially after it rains or snows, it will be a muddy mess. It is also the only access to the area. We will be requesting that the county or state do a traffic study, and certify the bridge will be able to handle the increased traffic.

As the county road sits now, with just local traffic, it is always rutted. The county brings out a grader, perhaps once every 2-3 months, and re-crowns it, sprinkling a little gravel here or there. It also sits on an old railroad grade, so sharp rocks and railroad spikes are always puncturing tires. I would imagine with 130+ big trucks a day, the county would have to re-grade at least once a week. Very doubtful that would happen. I have thought that maybe this company will offer to pave it, but the cost of paving 8 miles of road will be high (millions of $).



If the roads near them are gravel expect them to try to alleviate your (and the County's) fear by offering some free gravel. That's what the quarry I referenced apparently does a few times a year after the 2 mile section of dirt/gravel road gets pretty bad. But I know what you mean about dust because in the dry Summer the trees along that road are often white with dust. The worst damage occurs to the paved road (after they turn off the gravel road) simply because that road was originally just a dirt road (probably a deer path before that) which was paved over so it wasn't ever designed as a heavy duty road to carry all that heavy truck traffic. The State repaves, it worsens after one year, after two it's really getting broken up but the State doesn't have the resources to repave it every two years we're lucky if they do it every 8-10 years.


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Posts: 4906 | Location: Northern WV | Registered: January 17, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Southflorida-law:
Here is a short list of every group you should contact. You need to get them and every environmental splinter group up to speed on the project and get them involved.

https://www.outsideonline.com/...-donate-better-world

If you are lucky they or one of the groups will file the injunctions and lawsuits, on their dime, making you the plaintiff in the case. Downside, if it is a "job creator" for the area, you may not be the most popular person in town.


The towns in the documentary I mentioned split because of the sand mines and everybody is pissed at the other side. People that didn't have jobs and now have jobs, people that bought homes overlooking farmland that now over look an open pit mine, dust, truck traffic, blasting starts at 7am.

I really hope something works out in your favor. I'm sure you would have done things differently if you had known this would happen.
 
Posts: 5268 | Location: SWFL | Registered: October 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Noise during working hours is likely a not-starter, I doubt there are noise ordinances in the county.

There are OSHA dust limits that should apply to wind-borne dust leaving the site, and I think you could extend to dust raised by their trucks.

I'd make sure there is adequate groundwater monitoring in place (as in, make lots of comments on any and all of their filings) prior to the quarry starting, and ask lots of questions about what sort of blasting materials they might use.

Perchlorate contamination of groundwater due to blasting is a real thing. There are options to use, but no reason not to raise it as a concern.

good luck in your fight.



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Posts: 7117 | Location: in the red zone of the blue state, CT | Registered: October 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I don’t know how many miles away it was but a quarry opened where I grew up and when they were blasting it shook our house.


All the traffic and noise concerns you note will be a major issue but this will be the worst. Every shot they fire at the quarry will be a groundshaker from only 5,000 feet away. I lived much further than that from a small quarry years ago and could feel them as a low resonance, but in that close I can't imagine it won't rattle the plates, and every part of your home.

Sorry you're having to deal with this, but sounds like you and others are doing all you can. Good luck!



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Posts: 9936 | Location: Madison, MS | Registered: December 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Search what endangered species are native to your state online. Should be able to find descriptors of habitat range. Have a tracking party and try to find signs and photographs of any relevant creatures.




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Another Commissioner meeting today, nothing on the table. I did speak with the road and bridge dept today, they aren't happy with the situation. So far, the company has not re applied for a Conditional Use Permit with the county, but I am sure they will. My letter to the State has been received, and I expect a call with them tomorrow.

I finally broke down and cried tonight. It has been coming. So much frustration. I am still fighting. I must. Thank you all.

Eta: Thanks for the info on perchlorates FD. I will be requesting, should the permit go thru, a pre and post blast inspection, and setting up of decibel, seismic, and percussive (blast wave) meters.


Mike


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Posts: 4518 | Location: Southern Colorado | Registered: January 01, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Hang in there man. This place is a like brotherhood, we are with you. Best of luck in your fight. It will be no doubt a long and stressful one.
 
Posts: 986 | Location: USA | Registered: December 28, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If you are on well water, maybe use that as leverage. Make sure they have studies showing that no changes will happen to the aquifer.

Test your water chemistry and water levels before they begin working and maybe you'll have data to cause problems for them later on if not stop them beforehand...


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