In Pittsburgh the mayors nickname is Bike Lane Bill Peduto.

Whatever you may think, a big truck doesn’t give you balls.

Boy, I love cyclist threads. I have luckily only been inconvenienced a few times, and have only seen coal rolling a few times locally. All thoroughly entertaining. You couldn't pay me enough to ride my bike where I've seen the cyclists block me.

My sympathy, however, is fairly low as virtually all cycling is recreational, and virtually none of my driving is. So any interaction is immediately frustrating.

Nothing better illustrates the psychological concept of "The Other" than a good cyclist vs. driver thread.

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Nothing better illustrates the psychological concept of "The Other" than a good cyclist vs. driver thread.

Oh, I dunno about that: So what did these folks think was going to happen by vaping these chemicals?

Yes, many drivers would kill us if they could, just because. Many pussies drive big trucks.

As someone who has worked in the diesel engine industry for two decades, I cringe at the coal rollers.

Billions of dollars in R&D, new factories, cost and complexity of manufacture, weight, OBD, DEF, and other expenses to meet the ever increasing emissions requirements for diesel particulate matter and NOX. Cities like Beijing are choking on pollution and are finally putting in US/Europe level emissions regulations. Also add into that fuel economy improvements to counteract the negative effects of EGR and other emissions controls on power and fuel efficiency.

Diesel engines are so clean now, some demonstrations include a white hanky test onto exhaust pipe.

And some guy thinks it would be cool to ignore all this stuff, remove the emissions controls, reprogram the engine computer, and increase the fueling rate to way past design levels, and blow a bunch of partially burned diesel soot into the air, which after a few "coal rolls" will equal about a vehicle lifetime of emissions at currently mandated emissions levels?

Why would you modify a vehicle to product more pollution without any other benefit except to annoy people?

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

Why would you modify a vehicle to product more pollution without any other benefit except to annoy people?

Because they're assholes.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

Why would you modify a vehicle to product more pollution without any other benefit except to annoy people?

Because they're assholes.

Beat me to it.

Wouldn't running that rich wash down the cylinders and shorten engine life if done very much?

Jesus Christ, the hatred for cyclists is surprising. Maybe in Colorado there's some epidemic of lane hogging masses of riders causing a ruckus. Around here, I don't have that problem as a driver and I sure as fuck don't cause that problem as a cyclist.

Like Artie, I will also coast to the front of the pack at a stop light, but that's mostly to avoid getting smashed between the last car in the line and some dipshit who is sexting his girlfriend or otherwise not paying attention.

A portion of my regular route is bike lane (shared with vehicles) or an adjacent bike trail (a shared sidewalk), but most of the time I'm on the street. I've had a small number of assholes sharing their opinions while passing me, but otherwise people don't fuck with me.

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Jesus Christ, the hatred for cyclists is surprising. Maybe in Colorado there's some epidemic of lane hogging masses of riders causing a ruckus.

And Seattle, and other super-liberal strongholds. Not trying to interject politics into an apolitical thread, but the two things truly go hand-in-glove.

I wouldn't call it hatred for, but rather a strong dislike of. I used to ride a bike as my primary mode of transportation in Florida because I lived only a few shorts blocks from work, and it saved us a ton of money rather than buying and fueling a second car. I enjoyed the exercise and the sense of freedom I had riding.

Out here, and I'm sure in many other such enclaves, there's militant packs of these assholes who don't follow the rules of the road and will ride up within inches of you to draft you through town the whole way. Totally changed my attitude on bicycling, and bicyclists in general. Sorry.

I had a coworker who had some cyclist drafting him through town so closely in his lifted truck that he couldn't hardly see the guy, and at the next green light, he started and stopped to give the guy a clue. Guy must've barely tapped his bumper because he angrily chased him to the next light, and went running up to his window, screaming and bawling him out. My coworker is a "no fucks to be given" type and simply picked up his Big Gulp out of the cup holder and gave the guy a speed pitch to the chest and laughed in his face as he drove off at the green light. You're only so intimidating wearing a neon green spandex unitard and a foam helmet with a bunch of mirrors sticking off of it and maybe shouldn't go picking fights with neckbeards in lifted 30 year old pickup trucks. See what I'm saying? There's a mindset difference at play here. Nobody likes an entitled jackass.

Biking in Orlando or Brevard County is a damn far cry from the culture it is out here and other scattered places around the country.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

Why would you modify a vehicle to product more pollution without any other benefit except to annoy people?

Because they're assholes.

Beat me to it.

I can't say for other Diesel trucks but in GM's case if there has been any tuning done to the truck outside of a dealership whether it be a reprogram or a add on device the engine warranty is null and void. The ECM's will show (maybe someone has figured out a way around, my information is a couple years old)internally that the factory programming has been compromised even if the new programming has been wiped clean and the old factory programming has been reinstalled.

Especially when there has been an engine failure they look hard and deep into the cause and if the factory can find any signs of tampering......

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by PHPaul:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

Why would you modify a vehicle to product more pollution without any other benefit except to annoy people?

Because they're assholes.

Beat me to it.

I can't say for other Diesel trucks but in GM's case if there has been any tuning done to the truck outside of a dealership whether it be a reprogram or a add on device the engine warranty is null and void. The ECM's will show (maybe someone has figured out a way around, my information is a couple years old)internally that the factory programming has been compromised even if the new programming has been wiped clean and the old factory programming has been reinstalled.

Especially when there has been an engine failure they look hard and deep into the cause and if the factory can find any signs of tampering......

All of the Big 3 do that with their diesels. Most of the coal rollers I’ve seen are well past the warranty.

Consumer protection laws in the US put the burden of proof on the MFG. They have to prove that any mod you did actually caused the malfunction. They can't just say "you voided the warranty by xxxxxxx". However in the real world... good luck with that defense. It also gets more complicated when you Are dealing with federally mandated emission systems.