They all swell and become a gigantic pain.
Had the issue on my Expedition and now on the Tundra.
Tried locating a one piece lug nut for the Tundra and was unsuccessful as my usual go to McGard does not offer them for the OEM wheels.
Gorilla is supposed to be good so I found a set for $120.
They are 2 piece but supposed to be all steel and not an aluminum cap like the OEM lug nuts so hopefully they will not swell and distort.

Seems like the only wheels that use similar lugs were the American Racing magnesium wheels from the '60s.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Seems like the only wheels that use similar lugs were the American Racing magnesium wheels from the '60s.

That is a different type of 2 piece. That style of 2 piece is more of a lug nut and a washer. The lug portion is solid I have them on my 1969 GTO.

The two piece I am referring to is the threaded portion of the lug then there is an external cap. The inside is hollow and the cap is usually aluminum. With heat and too many uses of an impact the lugs nuts swell and deform.
All the Ford Trucks and big SUVs use them since like 2009 or so. Turns out the 2007 and up Tundra use the same craptastic design.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Seems like the only wheels that use similar lugs were the American Racing magnesium wheels from the '60s.

Toyota alloy wheels have always used a nut with a shank and washer; the washer is captured and is wide and made of a hardened steel so as not to deform.

To the point of the OP, capped lug nuts suck when the cap gets deformed or falls off. The ones fallen off are actually easier to deal with, just use a socket one size smaller (e.g., an 18mm on the 3/4"). The deformed ones, if you can even get a socket over them, get stuck in the socket, sometimes having to be punched out. If they are too deformed to get a socket over it is even more fun. I had a Ford F-150 where almost all 24 nuts were like this. I said if I take these off it isn't leaving without new ones.

Yes, they do indeed suck.
Dodge used them on my Daughters 2007 pickup. Once I got them off they all got replaced with regular ones.

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Originally posted by cparktd:
Yes, they do indeed suck.
Dodge used them on my Daughters 2007 pickup. Once I got them off they all got replaced with regular ones.

There in lies the rub. I have been unable to find a single solid one piece lug that fits the Tundra OEM aluminum wheel.

Capped lug nuts are a PITA.

Black - I've no expirience with these (73147TXXB-20), but the description says "These are one piece lug nuts and do not come apart like the factory stainless steel capped ones."

Never knew this. Why would a two piece lug nut ever be used over a one piece? Why use them at all?

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Originally posted by ShouldBFishin:
Capped lug nuts are a PITA.

Black - I've no expirience with these (73147TXXB-20), but the description says "These are one piece lug nuts and do not come apart like the factory stainless steel capped ones."

These are what I ordered. Though that is the only place I have seen them referred to as one piece. Everything else I have found seemed to indicated the contrary.
Even looking at the pictures it is pretty clear there is a cap or there would be no need for the gap at the lip.

I think that site got fat fingered though. The proper number is 73148TXX
Wish I knew about that site earlier. I paid $10 more.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Never knew this. Why would a two piece lug nut ever be used over a one piece? Why use them at all?

Cost savings to the manufacturers even saving $1 a lug nut is probably at least tens of millions in savings to them.

I guess I should go look at my wife’s Toyota. If they start looking bad I guess swapping them out early is a good call. Thanks. Learn something new every day.

I encountered these two piece lug nuts on a Ford fusion, which had a flat tire. The lady was having difficulty getting the tire iron on, I ended up using a mini sledge to hammer on a socket and then was able to loosen them.

I feel your pain. My 2015 Cherokee came with two-piece lug bolts.

Got those POS bolts switched out with some one-piece jobs the first time I rotated my tires.

-Rob

This rant is approved by me. I freaking hate those things. I didn't even use an impact on my first Jeep and the two piece lugs swelled, jammed, and came apart.

I moved into the impact world finally, and I still have a 3/4 impact socket sitting on my work bench with an lug nut jammed in it. I've tried literally everything I know to do, and I can't get it out of there. I will probably be getting a welder soon so I can learn to weld, and one of my first projects will be to weld that lug nut to something so I can wail on it a while.

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lug bolts.

These suck no matter how many pieces they are made from. The wheel likes to fall off when you remove the last bolt, and the bolts are difficult to start while holding the wheel positioned when putting it back on. Why the European cars (remember who designed your Jeep) all do this, I haven't been able to find out. Pilot studs …



… make this easier. Take out two bolts across from each other, leaving the others in for the moment, run in the appropriate pilot, then take out the rest of the bolts. Now your wheel doesn't fall off. When putting the wheel back on, slide it over the pilots first, start and lightly run in the bolts, then take out the pilots and start the last two.

Lug bolts are a close 2nd in the land of craptastic. I had them on my Audi.
While it was a bit of a pain no where near the pain of a swollen lug nut that you can use again.

Had one come apart on my brother’s 94 Dakota a few months ago. Well, ‘come apart’ isn’t the right term. The outer bolt cover rounded. Torque spec is 90lbs or something. Was much over that.

Tried all sorts of crap. End result was using a lug nut remover socket. Huge pain in the ass. I ordered new nuts but haven’t put them on. I dread trying to get the rest off.

Need to order some solid ones for my Jeep.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Had one come apart on my brother’s 94 Dakota a few months ago. Well, ‘come apart’ isn’t the right term. The outer bolt cover rounded. Torque spec is 90lbs or something. Was much over that.

Tried all sorts of crap. End result was using a lug nut remover socket. Huge pain in the ass. I ordered new nuts but haven’t put them on. I dread trying to get the rest off.

Need to order some solid ones for my Jeep.

Flip sockets are supposed to work well.
So far I have gone one size up and tapped it on and they came off then just had to tap a screw driver through the opposite end of the socket to get them out.

My new lugs arrived yesterday. Wife works all weekend so just me and the boys so it will be next weekend before I get to tackle the project.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Had one come apart on my brother’s 94 Dakota a few months ago. Well, ‘come apart’ isn’t the right term. The outer bolt cover rounded. Torque spec is 90lbs or something. Was much over that.

Tried all sorts of crap. End result was using a lug nut remover socket. Huge pain in the ass. I ordered new nuts but haven’t put them on. I dread trying to get the rest off.

Need to order some solid ones for my Jeep.

I spent a full day unfucking the drivers rear lug nuts on that truck a few years ago, had to drill out 3 lugs due to a tire shop using a torque stick.

If you don't already get some antiseize and coat the threads when you put them back on.

Sorry about dodges lugnuts