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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.
 
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Common core math and its conceptualized approach to understanding math is just lowering the bar so everyone can pass. The kids who have trouble doing math do better on common core. It's bubbles and boxes and then adding them up. The kids who don't have trouble with math get drug under doing this shit.

Math can be hard, everyone won't do well in it. However, lowering standards never works out well in the long run.

As for memorizing times tables, the benefit goes far beyond just knowing them for the rest of your life. Memorization skills are a mental muscle that you build through use. Memorization skills serve you in all aspects of education and life.

Common core is not good for the kids, imo.

Edited to add: You guys who think algebra and trig and math in general is useless to you in real life are missing a piece of the puzzle. Analogy time. You guys go to the gym and bench press, squat, do burpees, etc. You never do those actual movements in real life. It's exercise, it's functional movement. Learning math is also exercise. It's for your brain. It stretches your mind in ways that crayons don't. The best education is well rounded, math, sciences, language, and some arts. You learn the bigger math so that figuring out the tip on your bar bill doesn't require an iPhone app.

You think all that time was wasted. It wasn't. In the years that your brain was still developing you were made to expand your thoughts outside of counting on your fingers and toes. You were made to understand the world in abstract mathematical ways, which just because you don't like or understand math doesn't change the fact that math governs everything we do. It's the law. Lol

I'm probably saying it badly but math is good for you even if you never use calculus ever again.
 
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I remember the 1st time I came across common core math. Grandson was in 4th grade, he had homework of 10 math problems. Ex.= 8 + 4 = 13. Another ex.
7 +8 = 14, etc, etc. I told him they must be typos and we answered them the "old" way. He got a zero.

After a meeting with his teacher, she explained, 8+4+ 1= 13...7+8-1 =14. Abstract thinking, she told me. I went into a nervous tic & left before I did something really bad.
 
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When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.



I use the Pythagorean theorem almost daily. Wink


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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.
Yeah, no use for any of that stuff. No need at all to calculate flying range vs. fuel burn at various altitudes with varying winds. No need to calculate course correction (WCA, Wind Correction Angle) when flying with a crosswind component. No worries about how headwind or tailwind component will affect groundspeed or fuel needed. Nope, no use at all, for any of that math stuff.



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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.


Navigate much, Captain?

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He probably has an app for that kind of stuff. lol
 
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He probably has an app for that kind of stuff. lol
Just follow the magenta line on the GPS screen.

No need to do any maff.

I wonder how the Captain's celestial navigation skills are. You know, for when the GPS isn't working.

Or maybe dead reckoning.

Nah, who needs that stuff?



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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.


With Algebra, you learn to break a problem down and follow specific steps to solve it. Once you learn that, you've mastered algebra.

With my students I would compare Algebra to a science project or a history thesis. You break it down, do certain steps and solve the problem. In fact, we had some bring their assignments in and we'd break them down.

Algebra gives you a framework for problem solving.



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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.
Yeah, no use for any of that stuff. No need at all to calculate flying range vs. fuel burn at various altitudes with varying winds. No need to calculate course correction (WCA, Wind Correction Angle) when flying with a crosswind component. No worries about how headwind or tailwind component will affect groundspeed or fuel needed. Nope, no use at all, for any of that math stuff.


Your gas gauge broken or something? There is also a button on my dashboard, that when pressed lets me know how much further I can go. Big Grin



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I use the Pythagorean theorem almost daily. Wink


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"You may be right, Pythagorus, but they're all going to laugh if you call it a hypotenuse!" Razz



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When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.



I use the Pythagorean theorem almost daily. Wink


In the words of the ancient Greeks:
"You may be right, Pythagorus, but they're all going to laugh if you call it a hypotenuse!" Razz





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It's like Algebra and Trigonometry. When does ANYONE use that crap once they get out of school for anything, unless it's in a very very specialized field.
Yeah, no use for any of that stuff. No need at all to calculate flying range vs. fuel burn at various altitudes with varying winds. No need to calculate course correction (WCA, Wind Correction Angle) when flying with a crosswind component. No worries about how headwind or tailwind component will affect groundspeed or fuel needed. Nope, no use at all, for any of that math stuff.


That would be a SPECIALIZED FIELD. For 98% of the people out there, they don't use Algebra nor Trig in any aspect of their life.

Most of what you mentioned is simple division. Neither Algebra nor Trigenometry. Range= SOG divided by GPH then take the total and multiply it by total gallons of fuel.
 
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He probably has an app for that kind of stuff. lol
Just follow the magenta line on the GPS screen.

No need to do any maff.

I wonder how the Captain's celestial navigation skills are. You know, for when the GPS isn't working.

Or maybe dead reckoning.

Nah, who needs that stuff?


I hold a USCG 500GT STCW master and the experience for a 1600 GT master. My license is very high for what I do or need it for. I know how to do all of that stuff. For every trip that I do I calculate range, plot my courses from paper charts, then develop a route that I plug into my GPS. I do around 200 days a year on the water. So far I haven't been lost yet......and have covered over 300,000 Nautical Miles. Imagine that. If you only knew, what part I play in the marine industry.

How often do you actually fly? Like once a month? Maybe twice a month? Just because you spend all day on Captain Stabbin's website does not mean you know a hill of beans about the maritime industry!

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jimmy123x, you are a legend in your own mind.




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jimmy123x, you are a legend in your own mind.


As well as many others. Considering I'm the preferred Captain for most of the whose who in the yachting industry. Yacht manufacturers, engine manufacturers, yacht shipping companies, etc. I've worked very hard to get to where I am. And, getting cheap shots from who exactly? People that know nothing of my industry and most who have never even stepped foot on a yacht.
 
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Jimmy, I enjoy your posts, don't let them wear you down. I remember your macaroni and cheese post. That was a funny story. Have you considered the CUT mac-n-cheese?


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I use the Pythagorean theorem almost daily. Wink

If you bought a GPS, it will tell you the yardage to the green from the wrong fairway. Wink

(Tiger Woods used the PT in a college tourney to figure yardage once. Notah Begay asked him how he did it because he was amazed at the result. When he replied "I used the Pythagorean Theorem", Notah said "You really are a nerd!")


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