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Fuck you... Fuck you so hard and so long and deep you piece of weasel shit.

Why is my son drawing bubbles and lines and wasting an hour when I can just teach him long division and be done with it.


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Posts: 7341 | Location: TN | Registered: December 18, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'll second that.

I've helped my 11 year old granddaughter with her homework. That crap doesn't make any sense to this 66 year old.


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Got into arguments with both my kids teachers over the years. Being Asian, I, of course, started teaching them multiplication and division in kindergarten and by the time they started that in school they were already getting the answer quickly and were being told to stop and start doing it the common core way.

After many arguments we agreed that they would show that they knew the stupid common core way but in the end as long as their answer is correct, they wouldn’t care how they got the answer.



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Posts: 5208 | Location: South of Cleveland, OH | Registered: August 09, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I keep wondering what happens when those kids get to college and are exposed to the usual physics, math, and engineering books. It's hard to see all reference books being rewritten for common core.
 
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Common core is fucking horrible. I've dealt with many kids who get fucked up early with common core math. Nothing like trying to teach fractions before you teach division.



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Posts: 4435 | Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA | Registered: November 05, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I made it my mission to get my children through high school without capitulating to the common core nonsense. Both of them aced Calculus in College through traditional learning techniques.
 
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This is going to be a generational thing. All these common core kids are going to hit college simultaneously, and the professors are going to freak.

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I keep wondering what happens when those kids get to college and are exposed to the usual physics, math, and engineering books. It's hard to see all reference books being rewritten for common core.
 
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I remember when my nephew was in first or second grade and seeing his common core homework. I was sitting at the table with my wife and sister in law trying to figure it out and we were all stumped. It made no fucking sense. We all went to top colleges (SIL-Hamilton, Mrs Highlander - Northeastern Summa Cum Laude, and I went to Dartmouth and graduated HS with a 4 year math average of 99%). I loved that they could still get full credit even with a wrong answer.





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So...no more memorizing times tables?

What the hell?


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So...no more memorizing times tables?


You just hit on a pet peeve of mine. I'm trying to teach Algebra I, and a significant portion of the class can't do 6x7 without a calculator or, at best, deep thought.
 
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So...no more memorizing times tables?


You just hit on a pet peeve of mine. I'm trying to teach Algebra I, and a significant portion of the class can't do 6x7 without a calculator or, at best, deep thought.


I bet they forget their towels, too.

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If I was a conspiracy theorist I’d think that maybe it was a plot designed to get parents out of educating their children and for the schools to make children think their parents are stupid...


But that’s none of my business...





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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
Fuck you... Fuck you so hard and so long and deep you piece of weasel shit.

Why is my son drawing bubbles and lines and wasting an hour when I can just teach him long division and be done with it.


We went through this shit back in the early '60s.

Daughter came home and told Mrs. Elk that she was having a problem with this "new math".

Mrs. Elk spent maybe half an hour and taught her how to do "math"> Daughter went back to school and did great on her math test, but teacher complained that she had not done it according to "new math".

Mrs. Elk and I went to see said teacher. In short, we were told that this new math was to teach them how to do it the old way, just through a shitload on nonsense.

Daughter continued to do it her way and aced the course, only one in the class.


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Posts: 22458 | Location: Virginia | Registered: December 16, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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+1

My kids school tried this shit and it hit the fan. the best analogy that I had that hit home since we are in Huntsville Alabama, the rocket city was that if the engineers and construction workers had to use this math to figure out how much concrete was needed to build the pads at the Cape, we'd have never launched the first rocket.


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Both my daughters were placed in advanced classes in 3rd grade. Those classes did NOT use common core. Both are now engineers.
 
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
So...no more memorizing times tables?


You just hit on a pet peeve of mine. I'm trying to teach Algebra I, and a significant portion of the class can't do 6x7 without a calculator or, at best, deep thought.


Mine were taught using their fingers to multiply. It made no sense. I'd learned multiplication by drill and repetition. My students wanted to know what magical system I was using.

https://m.wikihow.com/Multiply-With-Your-Hands



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Posts: 4827 | Location: Outside Seattle | Registered: November 29, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I've been substitute teaching at my kid's school and have subbed for all grades from K4 through 9th and 10th grade geometry. I'm thourghly convinced calculators have no place in elementary math, multiplication tables need to be memorized and an incredible amount of time is wasted on conceptual ideas at the elementary level.

The students that know there multiplication tables do well, the others don't.
 
Posts: 3337 | Location: SWFL | Registered: October 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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A couple of weeks ago I got a note from my son's 4th grade teacher asking me to stop teaching my son long division as it wasn't the way the school teaches it.

Now, she is a friend of the family so I didn't get all uppity about it but I did have a good laugh.

I showed my son how the school wanted it done and then I showed him the easy way in order to check that his answer is right. Win-win.

At the end of the day, at this age, the school is grading that they understand the process of problem solving and not so much the problem. I get it.

I hated common core until I started really spending some time on it and understood what it's trying to do. And to be honest, it would have helped me as a kid. All through middle school and high school I was 'behind' in math. I loved the subject, I just couldn't get it right.

Once I matured it all came together and now I have an Engineering degree. But I had to learn how to learn on my own.

I'm not saying common core is great, just that I think it can be useful for some.





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It's a pain in the ass, but I really do think it's better. I thought it was stupid too until I actually sat down and looked at it. Common core is actually pretty much how I taught myself math as a kid, and what I've used ever since. It may not be quite as fast as just memorizing multiplication tables, but knowing WHY 4x4 is 16 is much more valuable than knowing that 4x4=16. I think there is still a place for both, but with the prevalence of technology these days rote memorization is less important every day.




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So...no more memorizing times tables?
Do you know your gazintas?

Seven gazinta sixty-three? Nine.



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