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shirley your life is worth $50.00 Smile


Yes it is, and don't call me Shirley.


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Posts: 290 | Location: NE Kansas | Registered: February 24, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Has everyone forgotten how bad CTD was a few months ago with a box of .380 Blazer? Wasn't it around $100 for 50 round box.

Everyone was leaving customer review comments on the page but the negatives were not getting through so everyone started leaving ridiculously over exaggerated positive comments. Until they took them all down and marked the ammo as sold out. The comments were hilarious.

By the way, just this past weekend in NY I spotted 4 100 round boxes of Winchester at the Wal-Mart near the Great Northern Mall for under 30 a box. They had 6 boxes on the shelf that I could see. I was in town visiting family and was pretty sure you need a NY pistol permit to buy pistol calibers in NY so I didn't grab them. Besides I already have around 350 rounds of WWB at home. It's out there for reasonable prices if you look.

Part of the reason for the shortage is the new demand since the election, the new crop of .380 pistols, and the fact that the ammo companies make .380 on the same production line as their 9mm and with the high demand for 9mm they were reluctant to stop and reset for a run of .380.


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I have a hard time accepting .380 as well. I have a P230 I never shoot because ammo is too expensive Frown I also don't understand why no one makes a tiny 9mm. A .380 is only about 2mm shorter right?

Have you seen a Rohrbaugh 9mm? Smaller than most .380's available. Pricey, but a nice carry.


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I have a hard time accepting .380 as well. I have a P230 I never shoot because ammo is too expensive Frown I also don't understand why no one makes a tiny 9mm. A .380 is only about 2mm shorter right?

Have you seen a Rohrbaugh 9mm? Smaller than most .380's available. Pricey, but a nice carry.

Rohrbaugh has been my pocket CCW for years. I wouldn't carry a .380 if the ammo was free.


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Why exactly is .380 ACP ammo so expensive in the first place? What makes it "special"?

-BK


It is a "seasonal" cartridge. That is, the ammo manufacturers make it on the same lines as the 9mm. They normally set up for 380, run for a few weeks, and won't make anymore for awhile.

With the demand at record levels for 9mm, no volume manufacturer will pause 9mm production to make 380. Add to this the upsurge in 380 demand due to the wildly successful launch of the Ruger LCP, and you have a perfect storm for massive 380 shortages. Because of the acute shortage, prices are inflated.

I believe the ammo shortage has about run its course. The ammo glut is just over the horizon.



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I'd like to know what kind of dirt CTD is basing their prices on.


Don't post much but had to respond. CTD in "Foat Wurth" must be basing their price on the dirt around the stockyards as it is mixed with a very special fertilizer contributed by the livestock. Bawhahaha CTD is a BIG rip-off!
 
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Went shooting the P230 and LCP yesterday. My range had boxes of MagTech for $23.00 a box. Didn't bother me a bit. I had a problem paying $21.00 for 9mm though, but I still did.
 
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I don't know why anyone fools with the 380 anymore. Sure, 20 years ago...it made some sense but not today.

First, there is the ammo cost issue....yes..a total deal killer.

Second, we have tons of great small 9mms to choose from. This opens up not only cheaper and easier to find ammo but more powerful rounds, too.

Third, there are also many 9x18mm small pistols out there that are cheaper than the 380 guns and ammo is still cheaper and more powerful than the 380.

So yeah...when you add all this up...I cannot figure out why anyone fools with the 380 caliber anymore. I don't blame you for ditching it. I never owned one and probably never will.

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So yeah...when you add all this up...I cannot figure out why anyone fools with the 380 caliber anymore. - brickboy240

Because there is no* 9mm gun that will fit in a jeans front pocket like a P3AT or a LCP. No Glock, no Kahr, et al. These guns in .380 chambering simply offer a feature that no* 9mm currently does. I don't understand larger guns in this caliber, but I assume that's not the market that's driving the .380 shortage.

*I've never tried a Rohrbaugh, but at $1K (and, presumably, a pretty punishing recoil) I won't any time soon, either.
 
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So yeah...when you add all this up...I cannot figure out why anyone fools with the 380 caliber anymore. - brickboy240

Because there is no* 9mm gun that will fit in a jeans front pocket like a P3AT or a LCP. No Glock, no Kahr, et al. These guns in .380 chambering simply offer a feature that no* 9mm currently does. I don't understand larger guns in this caliber, but I assume that's not the market that's driving the .380 shortage.

*I've never tried a Rohrbaugh, but at $1K (and, presumably, a pretty punishing recoil) I won't any time soon, either.


The Kahr PM9 is daaaamn close.


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I'm getting my .380 dies and caliber conversion kit for my press for Christmas!


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The Kahr PM9 is daaaamn close.

Not in my experience, and I tried 'em all (except for that Rohrbaugh) before settling on the P3AT.

And I wear my jeans pretty relaxed, not like this:

 
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I don't know why anyone fools with the 380 anymore. Sure, 20 years ago...it made some sense but not today.

First, there is the ammo cost issue....yes..a total deal killer.

Second, we have tons of great small 9mms to choose from. This opens up not only cheaper and easier to find ammo but more powerful rounds, too.

Third, there are also many 9x18mm small pistols out there that are cheaper than the 380 guns and ammo is still cheaper and more powerful than the 380.

So yeah...when you add all this up...I cannot figure out why anyone fools with the 380 caliber anymore. I don't blame you for ditching it. I never owned one and probably never will.

- brickboy240


That pretty much sums it up.

After owning a Kahr E9 for many years, I have learned how to hide it. Now there are better models, the Kahr PM9 or the CW9 if you are on a budget, and the Rohrbaugh for those with the funds.

380 is just too wimpy for my tastes.


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The Kahr PM9 is daaaamn close.

Not in my experience, and I tried 'em all (except for that Rohrbaugh) before settling on the P3AT.

And I wear my jeans pretty relaxed, not like this:



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I finally parted with my P232's and got an LCP. I figured the P232 was just too big for a .380 and the LCP was just right. Thankfully, I can still find Blazer and some other brands around here for around $13.50-$16 a box. Higher than it used to be, but I also don't run a huge amount of rounds through my LCP as I have with the P232 and previous Beretta 85. 300rnds of .380 now lasts me a LONG time...
 
Posts: 183 | Location: Monroeville, Pa. | Registered: December 07, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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My take on this, does any body really go to the range to or otherwise "plink" with a .380? I know I don't, too damn expensive. I keep my .380 (Bersa Thunder) because it is small and just right as a bedside pistol. I have exactly one box of factory Winchester ammo for it. I take it approximately once a year to the range and fire their reloads for practice and to make sure the gun functions without problems. That is it though. Otherwise, I plink with my .22s and sometimes my 9MM SIG 2022. The high price of .380 ammo isn't a factor to me.
 
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Insanity! Eek

50 rounds FMJ: $49.97


Your leaving .380's because your deal finding ability is very bad?
 
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Have you seen a Rohrbaugh 9mm?


I have, but pretty much dismissed them due to price. They do seem nice, tho.


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Posts: 331 | Location: Texas! | Registered: December 01, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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So, any of you 380 haters have a nice pre-68 Walther PPK you want to toss my way? I have a 7.65 that is about my favorite pistol, and wouldn't mind upgrading. Razz
 
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The Kahr PM9 is daaaamn close.

Not in my experience, and I tried 'em all (except for that Rohrbaugh) before settling on the P3AT.

And I wear my jeans pretty relaxed, not like this:




OH MY GOD! MY EYES!


I'm blind Eek...

Obviously you need to get out some Big Grin...
 
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