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It seems all too frequently lately that if I put in a call for something like health insurance questions, or technical support on a product and the representative asks for my phone number "in case we get disconnected, a good call back number is requested" though seemingly harmless I've started to notice that in relationship to those calls I will get a text at unusual times, like late night or a Sunday afternoon, from sexythisorthat# and a link. Well I know firstly that I never respond, especially early am calls and/or texts, but now have started to document those frequency of calls with their relationship to the "call back number requests" from insurance companies, tech support etc and starting to draw a link to those. Normally I never give out my phone number but, with those particular companies I already have accounts set up and feel more comfortable giving in to the request in case there is a call disconnect and call back may be required. But companies like Ring who have now been bought out by Amazon I'm not as comfortable. Though I did ask if they already have my cell number. They reply with many callers change numbers as they do with phones so admittedly I will give in but..

Now that I recently put a call in to tech support for Ring devices, and it goes to Amazon support, I told my wife that I received the 1 o'clock in the morning perverse text. I think in the future to just give them a call back with a digit off?


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There are so many new and exciting ways to scam people. The Lounge is full of them right now and I've never heard of any of them. This is also a new one and I plan on memorizing the number of my local police department or dog pound or judges office to hand out to these clowns. Thanks for the tip.
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"in case we get disconnected, a good call back number is requested"



great I just did this with Farberware,

the girl said,
we need your information to file this conversation.
web address and phone number.
Mad

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"in case we get disconnected, a good call back number is requested"



great I just did this with Farberware,

the girl said,
we need your information to file this conversation.
web address and phone number.
Mad

thanks for the consideration in starting a new post


You're welcome bendable. Yea, they would also ask to verify my email address for proper account info and update if needed.

I'm going to refuse to give updated phone and email address to see if I can still access my account. In some cases it's difficult to make a connection with these accounts due to delays and mishaps, especially now during this early New Year. So when I finally do I don't want to go back and forth with a Supervisor to have them override this new info request and just get on with my questions and/or requests. I've got better things to do and not always available for even call backs. We'll see.

And as for now, I'm just keeping track of those calls to see if in fact there is a connection to these erroneous texts.


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Now that I recently put a call in to tech support for Ring devices, and it goes to Amazon support,



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Correlation =/= causation. And even what appears to be repeated correlation can still just be random coincidence.

Just because you ate Mexican food a hour before you got a sexy text doesn't mean eating Mexican food results in pornographic spam. And if you call up that Mexican restaurant to bitch at them about sending you porn ads, they're just going to be confused and assume you're just some crazy dude who's off your meds.

(Yes, that's a facetious example, but the same applies with calling your insurance company and then later getting a porn ad.)

Reputable insurance/technology/etc. businesses aren't going to be using your cell phone number to send you phone sex solicitations, or selling your number to companies that would.

Besides, nearly all phone-related spam is auto-generated these days, not pulled from a list of specific identified phone numbers that have been nefariously acquired. As in, the spammers merely write a simple computer program that automatically robocalls or sends texts in batches to every number within a string of possible phone numbers. (Such as all numbers from 501-555-0000 through 501-555-9999.)


So in reality, all you're going to be achieving is wasting your time by tracking all this, and further wasting your time by giving out fake numbers, so that when that tech support call does get cut off halfway through, you'll have to start back at square one with waiting again in the hold queue, dealing with a whole new tech support guy, starting over with their required troubleshooting process, etc.

Give your normal phone number when dealing with reputable companies. And just accept that random, unrelated phone spam is a fact of life nowadays, and nobody's fault but the spammers'.
 
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if you really need to give them a number in the case of a return call then get Google Voice, you'll get a number thats not yours in their app, just dump the number when you are done

https://voice.google.com/u/0/about



 
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if you really need to give them a number in the case of a return call then get Google Voice, you'll get a number thats not yours in their app, just dump the number when you are done

https://voice.google.com/u/0/about


Very cool idea thank you HRK.

RogueJSK, it may just be a random coincidence. I'm just putting this out here to get info, opinions, and others experiences to see if others have noticed any uptick in these kinds of text messages. I value everybody's feedback and I've given thought to what you posted, thank you. I'm not really too concerned about it, it's really insignificant actually and life will go on.


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My number is 867-5309. Wink


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Was expecting and received a call a couple weeks ago.
They called me, I answered...

After confirming they have the right person they ask...
"is this a good number for you" Razz



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My number is 867-5309. Wink


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Was expecting and received a call a couple weeks ago.
They called me, I answered...

After confirming they have the right person they ask...
"is this a good number for you" Razz


The wording's a bit wonky, but they're just trying to be courteous.

Basically asking "Is there a different number (like your home or office or your wife's cell phone or whatever) that you'd like us to use instead in the future?"
 
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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Correlation =/= causation. And even what appears to be repeated correlation can still just be random coincidence.

Just because you ate Mexican food a hour before you got a sexy text doesn't mean eating Mexican food results in pornographic spam. And if you call up that Mexican restaurant to bitch at them about sending you porn ads, they're just going to be confused and assume you're just some crazy dude who's off your meds.

(Yes, that's a facetious example, but the same applies with calling your insurance company and then later getting a porn ad.)

Reputable insurance/technology/etc. businesses aren't going to be using your cell phone number to send you phone sex solicitations, or selling your number to companies that would.

Besides, nearly all phone-related spam is auto-generated these days, not pulled from a list of specific identified phone numbers that have been nefariously acquired. As in, the spammers merely write a simple computer program that automatically robocalls or sends texts in batches to every number within a string of possible phone numbers. (Such as all numbers from 501-555-0000 through 501-555-9999.)


So in reality, all you're going to be achieving is wasting your time by tracking all this, and further wasting your time by giving out fake numbers, so that when that tech support call does get cut off halfway through, you'll have to start back at square one with waiting again in the hold queue, dealing with a whole new tech support guy, starting over with their required troubleshooting process, etc.

Give your normal phone number when dealing with reputable companies. And just accept that random, unrelated phone spam is a fact of life nowadays, and nobody's fault but the spammers'.


Could be the company is reputable, but the particular phone monkey is creating a list that he can sell on his own time....


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Possible, yes. But as stated, nearly all phone spam nowadays uses computer programs to target ranges of phone numbers, rather than being targeted at specific phone numbers.

So there's not much market out there for a rogue phone monkey to sell lists of "black market phone numbers to which you could send your dirty ads". The spammers just use the auto-generated shotgun approach instead, for free.
 
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Sounds like there is some device in your house (or on your phone) that is listening to you give out your phone number.


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I signed up recently for equifax monitoring service for free because of some data breach somewhere else.

One service they provide is they monitor the dark web for your info. They said my cell phone number is in the dark web which explains the spam texts I get. I just ignore them as it's usually a broadcast text message to a group.

Blocking the number doesn't work with iphone.



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