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So I guess you are not going places

We're in the process of serious mico-managing @ work by a non-experienced manager who is a former service tech (1.5 yrs ago). I know exactly where you are coming from! Just the other day I accepted a dispatch to a down customer @ 4:10PM 40 miles away. So, I get there @ 4:45ish & dive right in as their down completely. Come 5:15 I'm on the floor with jacked up assy/culprit in hand & phone rings. You guessed it, dumb ass manager states " Have you arrived on-site, I see you dispatched but did not log as arrived on Pocket PC?
Needless to say OT is not required & I accepted to take care of this issue & the appreciation I get is checked up on. Today we had a meeting in regards to more micro-managing. DAMMIT!
I'm sorry I ranted on your post OP. Just feel where you're coming from. Generally going above & beyond leads to that being expected of you, rather than rewarded or atleast appreciated.

Been there, done that. I worked with the dregs of the company and always ran circles around them, because that was what I was being paid for. Above and beyond because it was my reputation on the line.

The last year I was there, I asked for a couple of scraps - a pass on a really shitty project, a couple of days a month in the office to do paper work so I didn't have to do it at home. Nothing. No dice.

When I gave my notice my boss asked what he could do to change my mind. I told him if he had that attitude about my position for the previous year we wouldn't be having the "I am outta here" talk.

Interesting that you said that because that is exactly the way I have been feeling about work (my position) lately. I can relate!

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Now if I could just win the lottery...

Me first!

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Originally posted by ST3 Rock:
So I guess you are not going places

Until he discovers the wonders of self-employment. No boss can pay you what you're worth - they gotta make a profit. No boss can be aware of everything you do for the company - they got lives, and generally bosses, too.

I'm getting there. I have worked at the Post Office for about 8 years. I have always done everything that I have been asked to do. I deliver the mail, or at least that is all I'm suppose to do. I wasn't married when I started working there, I didn't have kids either.

Our clerks have been less than experienced over the years, not to mention unreliable. So I spent many mornings going to work at O'dark-thirty to help sort mail. I have gone in early during the winter to clear off the sidewalks and parking lots because our maintenance guy doesn't work saturdays. It was never a big deal for me. I didn't have a family or a wife at the time. Well, then I got married and had kids. Screwed my schedules all up in the morning with the babysitter and my wife was getting pissed. So I started doing it less and less. I don't want to deliver for ever. I want to get into management. I have discussed it with both of my bosses and have always been told that when I became regular, they would let me start training.

Well that happened in December of '07. I still deliver the mail. I have asked about when I would be able to start training and I always get some lame ass excuse. I was told that we were 200 hours over on management hours so I couldn't, but that didn't stop the postmaster from schduling his son to fill in for other managers. What really gets me is that he doesn't work the whole day and gets paid for it. That really chaps my ass, but what are you going to do?

So I have adopted the same attitude. I go into work, do my job, nothing more, and go home.

I have busted my ass to show that I am committed, that I can and will do anything that is asked of me, whether I know how or not, and what do I get? A big "F" you. I'm not even sure that if at this point I was offered to do it, that I would. It has really put a bad taste in my mouth and I'm not sure I really want to be associated with the things that the current postmaster has started to do. I'm just going to have to wait it out. He will be retiring soon...I hope...

This could go on for a while......I'll stop here...out

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
... Now if I could just win the lottery...

Or you could invent a board game. I mean, the guy that invented the pet rock is a millionaire!

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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Originally posted by ST3 Rock:
So I guess you are not going places

Until he discovers the wonders of self-employment. No boss can pay you what you're worth - they gotta make a profit. No boss can be aware of everything you do for the company - they got lives, and generally bosses, too.

+1

Going on my own was the best thing I've ever done. Only thing is... I'm the worst boss I've ever had.

Perhaps you guys should look into a different job with a better company. Why get lazy and just accept it?

I'm applying for a promotion to a much busier store, a promotion in title, responsibility and in pay this week.

If i don't get the job, i'm outta there.

I will go and find a new job with a different company that sees my potential and will compensate me for it.

I'm REALLY close to being able to quit work and go back to school at the police academy (what i have always wanted to do)

My point is: Don't just accept it, work to change it.

Kevin

I was in a conference a little while ago and a panel member said that the main problem facing business today is that employees do not commit and they do not commit because they do not trust their employers. That was more than a couple of years ago and I have seen nothing that would make me think there is even the tiniest flaw in the assertion. I could go on but I don't care.

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Perhaps you guys should look into a different job with a better company. Why get lazy and just accept it?

I'm applying for a promotion to a much busier store, a promotion in title, responsibility and in pay this week.

If i don't get the job, i'm outta there.

I will go and find a new job with a different company that sees my potential and will compensate me for it.

I'm REALLY close to being able to quit work and go back to school at the police academy (what i have always wanted to do)

My point is: Don't just accept it, work to change it.

Kevin

And if you HATE the industry that you work in... for whatever reason... then find something else & go for it.

I've heard people comment that "everybody hates their job." I don't believe that this is true. I work with people who love their jobs. Personally I hate those people ( ) but they are "driven" & "excited" about what they're doing. I'm not.

Still, it's up to ME to change that. I'm convinced that, of the people who have found their nitch & really love what they do, very few of them did it by accident.

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Originally posted by Psychobastard:

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Perhaps you guys should look into a different job with a better company. Why get lazy and just accept it?

I'm applying for a promotion to a much busier store, a promotion in title, responsibility and in pay this week.

If i don't get the job, i'm outta there.

I will go and find a new job with a different company that sees my potential and will compensate me for it.

I'm REALLY close to being able to quit work and go back to school at the police academy (what i have always wanted to do)

My point is: Don't just accept it, work to change it.

Kevin

And if you HATE the industry that you work in... for whatever reason... then find something else & go for it.

I've heard people comment that "everybody hates their job." I don't believe that this is true. I work with people who love their jobs. Personally I hate those people ( ) but they are "driven" & "excited" about what they're doing. I'm not.

Still, it's up to ME to change that. I'm convinced that, of the people who have found their nitch & really love what they do, very few of them did it by accident.

agreed. I hate my job. I hate the retail aspect of it. I hate having to cower down to some people who are obviously wrong and sufferring from a sense of entitlement. I do it so i can continue to advance myself down a career path.

It's not what i want to do, but hopefully a little while more and it will help me down the path.

Kevin

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
It made me realize what was actually important in life - NOT WORK, for sure. And now I'm that guy - tell me what to do and I'll do it. Expect me to put in overtime without pay, break myself to fix someone else's F$%*-up? Forget it. It is just a J-O-B and I'm just putting in my time...

+1

I agree completely. Work is not what's important. It's what you should do to pay for what's important.

I don't see doing your job as lazy at all. NOT doing your job is lazy. Doing your job is what you get paid to do. There's nothing lazy about it. If everybody does their job, the whole system works. There's nothing wrong with doing your job and going home.

I think the attitude I quoted above is very healthy, and I'd rather work with a bunch of "that guy" than with people who are "fast movers" anyday. "That guy" is what made this country great. Ticket punchers are what has torn it down. Call me "that guy".

Opinions differ on it, but I love it.

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Originally posted by jtemple42000:
So I have adopted the same attitude. I go into work, do my job, nothing more, and go home.

You say that like it's a bad thing?

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Perhaps you guys should look into a different job with a better company. Why get lazy and just accept it?

I'm applying for a promotion to a much busier store, a promotion in title, responsibility and in pay this week.

If i don't get the job, i'm outta there.

I will go and find a new job with a different company that sees my potential and will compensate me for it.

I'm REALLY close to being able to quit work and go back to school at the police academy (what i have always wanted to do)

My point is: Don't just accept it, work to change it.

Kevin

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate my job. I haven't felt this way until recently. The postmaster at my post office is eligible for retirement. He does not however get his full benifits for another year or two. He has adopted this I don't care attitude and has made some really outragous rules here lately. I figure that he thinkd if the shit gets think, he'll just retire, so he just seeing how far he can push it. Things will get better here. I may just have to put my ambitions on hold until he retires.