Virginia is the quintessential example of this. Maryland, DC and New Jersey folks come to northern Virginia to escape crime, high taxes, and then end up voting for the same types of people that ruined their home state. Northern Virginia is a mess. Problem is, this small portion of Virginia has so many voters packed into it that we end up with democrats in statewide offices when the vast majority of the state, area wise, is very conservative.
I am with you on this...Part of the reason our pollen and allergy seasons are so bad is because the idiots escaping their old states missed the plants they had so they introduced plant to the desert that were never supposed to be here.
It also burns me when there is something that has been I place for years and newcomers move in, knowing full well it is there but then act shocked and horrified so they start leading the charge to get rid of it. The 2 examples that come to mind it Scottsdale airport...It has been an airport since WWII but every year the a-holes that move into "the pattern" start whining about noise. The other, and my personal favorite was a farm that existed for years in the East Valley and, of course, as soon as people start moving near it they wanted it shut down. The farmer put up a small billboard on his property that read something like "this is my families farm, it has been a farm since 19XX and will continue to be a farm."
I saw one on a farm in Ohio that was being surrounded by your garden variety McMansions, it read "This is a working farm. It smells like nature, you moved here for nature. Get used to it".
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This is not a new phenomenon. I remember when working in the Denver area in the mid 1980s, the Colorado natives would tell newcomers "I don't give a damn how you did it back east!"
A mind is a terrible thing.
You can thank the 121 tech corridor....hate to say it but my company is one of big H1B supporters.
Not a ot of Beta signs/stickers in my area but around Plano I am seeing more and more
This is why I’m looking to jump ahead of the wave, enough to last a lifetime.
No need to full-time it in FL, AZ or the Carolinas. My bug out location is SE or SW, SD. Yes, still be a nomad to move around some, South on the Winter, whatever.
Sad to hear. Traverse City, Petoskey etc or the UP were on my list of possible places to relocate to. Absolutely love all.
A co-worker was there last year. Absolutely loved it and may move there. Very solid conservative area and extremely pro Trump according to him.
Louisville (Jefferson County) and Lexington (Fayette County) in Kentucky are lost causes (run by Dems and voted for Dems in the last 5 Presidential Elections). Everywhere else is OK as Republican or conservative.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” — H. L. Mencken
we got out 13 years ago,
the last two years in Phoenix /Mesa were no where near as enjoyable as the previous 9 years.
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Schnepf Farms? We lived within two miles of it for many years. Always had something going on around the year. Nice family. When we moved to Queen Creek there were approx 1,500 people and we knew most of them. When we moved out there were 15,000 people thanks to Johnson Ranch. Probably over 100,000 people now. They cleared thousands of acres of cotton fields and orchards to build cookie cutter houses.
Williams AFB was also close by and fun to watch the F16(?) jets fly overhead. It was patriotic and it didn't annoy us. Then they allowed cookie cutter houses to be built and pushed the Air Force out due to people complaining about noise. So they built the reliever airport and we had huge jets coming and going overhead day and night. It destroyed our rural lifestyle. We moved north. Our airport in Yavapai County will unfortunately suffer the same fate within a few years because of the homes being built around it.
The GM Proving Grounds got pushed out as well.
The outer banks of NC are completely overrun with people from the northeast and that’s all you hear. If it was so fucking great back home, why did you leave?!
It was not Schnepf, smaller and more toward Power Rd, south of the 60.
I do know and see what you are talking about it QC, I used to go to County Thunder out there when it was at Schnepf Farms and it was a really cool rural community...Fast forward to the shit show it has become today. We will not be happy until we pave every inch of this valley!
Not just state to state but regions within a state. People come to northern Michigan from Detroit and want us to change. Do us all a favor and don't move up!
Drop me a line on my email if you want to talk more about possible retirement spots in the Yoop and N. MI.
End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
Maybe Vertuccio Farms? They used to host the haunted house every Halloween and a corn field maze.
The Apaches were pretty angry when the settlers moved to their lands.
My interaction is limited to northern california, and southern california. Also limited by working there, having lived there, flown there, jumped there, hiked there, and being married to a wife from california, having family in California, a son serving in california, years of service and operations in california, etc, and having lived in the surrounding states and having seen first hand the widespread, pervasive interaction of californians when they leave the state to infect everything nearby.
But other than that, none at all.
Like I said, with no bag limit, californians weren't game, just pests...
|Too old to run, |
too mean to quit!
I was born and raised in Idaho. When I left there in 1955 it was very pleasant, people were friendly, hunting, fishing and trapping were good. I went back there last year to visit my brother and his family. We are the only 2 left from our twig of the family tree. The changes were worse than disappointing! Traffic one could only imagine.
I spent a year in western Iran, and the people there were magnitudes more friendly than many of those I encountered in Idaho. Brother and I talked about it. He is a retired state cop. His view was that the huge majority of people now living there were from outside the state, huge majority who had run from kalifornistan. And promptly started implementing the same shit they ran from.
Kind of like the 4 northern counties here in Virginia.
There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)
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|My common sense |
It’s telling that when I saw your thread title my instant reaction was to grumble, “goddam Californians...”
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- Robert Heinlein
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