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Originally posted by Georgeair:
Haven't y'all read - he doesn't want any advice.

Thanks. It is fun to read and see others' frustrations with similar situations, so go head and post more.

Trust me guys, I'm not in deep and have no problem taking a pass on this one for all of the reasons already mentioned.

If I have to deal with drama it might as well be from one with no kids at the higher end of the hot/crazy matrix. But that would be a different thread...

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

Trust me guys, I'm not in deep and have no problem taking a pass on this one for all of the reasons already mentioned.

That's the benefit of having the experience and wisdom that comes from our age. We know how to keep one hand on the eject button and aren't afraid to use it.

I think you know this is a dead-end but are not ready to admit it yet.

Been there done that.

Enjoy yourself but be careful before it's too hard to getaway unharmed.

Do you like her? Could you see yourself with her?

If so, call her in ten years.

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Originally posted by iron chef:
Her parenting style is not a Millenial thing. I've seen that lack of discipline in every generation since hippies started giving birth and having free-range kids.

Bingo. My wife is 36 and we have a son who will be 7 in February. Totally different story than what is described in the OP. It's definitely not all Millenials.

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Originally posted by ridgerat:
Do you like her? Could you see yourself with her?

If so, call her in ten years.

Even when the kids are young adults, some of them have not changed since they were little. Been there done that!

WHY, is this even a question? Does it really need a committee to make a personal decision?

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Originally posted by trebor44:
WHY, is this even a question? Does it really need a committee to make a personal decision?

This section is for posting complaints. I posted a complaint. I did not ask for advice. Please actually read all of my posts. I have said this more than once.

There is a specific complaint - a particular woman and her kids - and a general complaint - that this behavior is a common trend. Others may share their similar experiences and/or opinions about the trend.

Like the other members have brought up, getting into a serious relationship with her isn't going to change the kids' behavior.

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Ryan:
It's a messed up situation to tell a woman you're crazy about her but her childrens' behavior and differences in how to raise kids is a deal breaker.
Good luck.

Nope, it’s called being a man. Sack up and tell her the truth. “I’d love to spend the rest of my life with you, but your kids are assholes and run all over you and I won’t tolerate it, you are better than that and you are the adult and the one in charge- not them. so you need to make some decisions. Call me when you have figured it out”

Yup, they don't respect/fear her.

With my sons they understood the "shut up I am on the phone" look, sometimes they missed "the look" so they got the "pop on the top/back of the head"

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"pop on the top/back of the head"

Oh, the horror!

There is too big an age difference anyway.

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
There is too big an age difference anyway.

Ha! You’re messing, right? This isn’t about age, and 1 decade isn’t going to matter, depending on where they’re at in life.

I’ve met 50 yo men that act like 10 y.o.

I'd say part of that behavior is a direct result of the lack of a dominate male presence. There's a reason that people who come from single mother homes have certain tendencies.
Unfortunately she probably should have chosen a better father for her children, but women make that a priority after, not before.

Telling her the truth will serve no good purpose.

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Originally posted by irreverent:

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
There is too big an age difference anyway.

Ha! You’re messing, right? This isn’t about age, and 1 decade isn’t going to matter, depending on where they’re at in life.

I’ve met 50 yo men that act like 10 y.o.

Let's see here, since I got divorced (not all inclusive):

41/28 (no kids)
42/30 (1 kid)
44/36 (no kids)
45/28 (no kids)
45/50 (two grown kids)
47/39 (? 1 kid)
48/38 (two kids)

And yeah, the younger with no kids were all hotter, and with no kids means less of the complications I mentioned in this thread...

One other thing, kinda obvious I know. You can enjoy the time as it is, not really giving worry to what may or may not happen 1+ years down the road.

It’s not necessarily wasting anyone’s time, you just don’t really know what the future will bring.

Just thinking of a gracious way out. What you really should do is marry her and adopt the kids. You will have plenty to talk about for the rest of your life. You can stop looking for the "one".