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Voyager's computers & transmitter still works

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August 29, 2017, 08:26 AM
ChuckFinley
Voyager's computers & transmitter still works
My "new" computer from this summer has already crashed, hard...Paraphrased from a longer article:

Voyager space missions which, since they were launched in August and September 1977 to explore outer space, have been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour away from us powered by computers made 40 years ago. The smartphone in your pocket has 240,000 times more memory.

The computer on board Voyager 1 uses just 12 watts (or the same kind of power used by a light bulb in a fridge) to transmit its data back to base, taking 38 hours, from way beyond the reaches of Saturn, Uranus and even Neptune — and it’s been working continuously all those years.

Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?




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August 29, 2017, 08:59 AM
RogueJSK
So that you have to buy a new one every 5 years, naturally.

They're not in the business of building things that last forever. If they did, they'd soon run out of customers.

Whereas if you have to buy a new one every few years, they have a constant stream of revenue.
August 29, 2017, 09:04 AM
RHINOWSO
Because retail computers are a business,
August 29, 2017, 09:28 AM
Leemur
And no one is browsing the web with the voyager computer. No browser hijacks, malware, etc.
August 29, 2017, 09:35 AM
myrottiety
Cause it's hard to do Warranty work on the Voyager.




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August 29, 2017, 09:50 AM
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August 29, 2017, 11:09 AM
ChuckFinley
I know the reasons. I also know what could be done differently to help. It's simply a rant.




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August 29, 2017, 11:39 AM
41
Capacitors are usually the components that fail or degrade over time. Better quality capacitors would make the equipment last longer.

The cheap capacitors in my game cameras are causing a longer delay before the camera starts recording. Mad


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August 29, 2017, 12:16 PM
cslinger
But honestly how much porn could you really access with the Voyager probe. Razz


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August 29, 2017, 02:15 PM
Leemur
quote:
Originally posted by cslinger:
But honestly how much porn could you really access with the Voyager probe. Razz


How much do you need to access when you have a NASA grade probe?
August 29, 2017, 02:19 PM
ChuckFinley
Porn and probe in the same post, what could possibly go wrong with this? Wink




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August 29, 2017, 03:43 PM
jimmy123x
cost
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckFinley:
My "new" computer from this summer has already crashed, hard...Paraphrased from a longer article:

Voyager space missions which, since they were launched in August and September 1977 to explore outer space, have been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour away from us powered by computers made 40 years ago. The smartphone in your pocket has 240,000 times more memory.

The computer on board Voyager 1 uses just 12 watts (or the same kind of power used by a light bulb in a fridge) to transmit its data back to base, taking 38 hours, from way beyond the reaches of Saturn, Uranus and even Neptune — and it’s been working continuously all those years.

Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?


because they don't cost $2 million dollars!!!!!!!!!!!
August 29, 2017, 04:24 PM
ChuckFinley
^ Big Grin




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August 29, 2017, 04:54 PM
LS1 GTO
Because Voyager used Fortran, not DOS (ie: Windows or Apple).






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August 29, 2017, 09:01 PM
zoom6zoom
Yeah, no Windows on Voyager.




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August 29, 2017, 09:57 PM
46and2
I can put together an equally talented team and build you a computer with the same level of quality, extensive testing, and otherwise, but our day rate would be about $10,000 and it would take a couple of years or more. For roughly $500-2500 total we're spoiled it works this well.

Still sucks though. Smile
August 30, 2017, 06:16 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Because Voyager used Fortran, not DOS (ie: Windows or Apple).
Confused



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August 30, 2017, 08:31 AM
smschulz
Not exactly a valid comparison but kinda get the jest.
August 30, 2017, 08:46 AM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by 46and2:
I can put together an equally talented team and build you a computer with the same level of quality, extensive testing, and otherwise, but our day rate would be about $10,000 and it would take a couple of years or more. For roughly $500-2500 total we're spoiled it works this well.

Still sucks though. Smile


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August 30, 2017, 01:39 PM
billr
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckFinley:
Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?


Because you wouldn't pay millions of dollars for a CPU. The computers on Voyager 1 were all build to be hardened against things like solar radiation, and they cost a lot of money.



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