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My "new" computer from this summer has already crashed, hard...Paraphrased from a longer article:

Voyager space missions which, since they were launched in August and September 1977 to explore outer space, have been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour away from us powered by computers made 40 years ago. The smartphone in your pocket has 240,000 times more memory.

The computer on board Voyager 1 uses just 12 watts (or the same kind of power used by a light bulb in a fridge) to transmit its data back to base, taking 38 hours, from way beyond the reaches of Saturn, Uranus and even Neptune — and it’s been working continuously all those years.

Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?




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So that you have to buy a new one every 5 years, naturally.

They're not in the business of building things that last forever. If they did, they'd soon run out of customers.

Whereas if you have to buy a new one every few years, they have a constant stream of revenue.
 
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Because retail computers are a business,
 
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And no one is browsing the web with the voyager computer. No browser hijacks, malware, etc.
 
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Cause it's hard to do Warranty work on the Voyager.




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V'Ger!




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I know the reasons. I also know what could be done differently to help. It's simply a rant.




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Capacitors are usually the components that fail or degrade over time. Better quality capacitors would make the equipment last longer.

The cheap capacitors in my game cameras are causing a longer delay before the camera starts recording. Mad



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But honestly how much porn could you really access with the Voyager probe. Razz


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But honestly how much porn could you really access with the Voyager probe. Razz


How much do you need to access when you have a NASA grade probe?
 
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Porn and probe in the same post, what could possibly go wrong with this? Wink




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Originally posted by ChuckFinley:
My "new" computer from this summer has already crashed, hard...Paraphrased from a longer article:

Voyager space missions which, since they were launched in August and September 1977 to explore outer space, have been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour away from us powered by computers made 40 years ago. The smartphone in your pocket has 240,000 times more memory.

The computer on board Voyager 1 uses just 12 watts (or the same kind of power used by a light bulb in a fridge) to transmit its data back to base, taking 38 hours, from way beyond the reaches of Saturn, Uranus and even Neptune — and it’s been working continuously all those years.

Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?


because they don't cost $2 million dollars!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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^ Big Grin




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Because Voyager used Fortran, not DOS (ie: Windows or Apple).







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Yeah, no Windows on Voyager.




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I can put together an equally talented team and build you a computer with the same level of quality, extensive testing, and otherwise, but our day rate would be about $10,000 and it would take a couple of years or more. For roughly $500-2500 total we're spoiled it works this well.

Still sucks though. Smile
 
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Because Voyager used Fortran, not DOS (ie: Windows or Apple).
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Not exactly a valid comparison but kinda get the jest.
 
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I can put together an equally talented team and build you a computer with the same level of quality, extensive testing, and otherwise, but our day rate would be about $10,000 and it would take a couple of years or more. For roughly $500-2500 total we're spoiled it works this well.

Still sucks though. Smile


How much for the environmental impact study and certification of fair labor?



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Why, then, do our own household computers and phones have a shelf-life of only about five years?


Because you wouldn't pay millions of dollars for a CPU. The computers on Voyager 1 were all build to be hardened against things like solar radiation, and they cost a lot of money.



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