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July 05, 2019, 10:10 AM
El Cid 92
Have to report for Jury duty today
Yep... Have to usually suffer thru 1 day of jury duty. Only have to do it once per 8 years in our area.

Usually, I get called into the pool on the first day. Then they question us and find out I'm white, male, a gun owner, support police/miltary, have advanced degrees (multiple) and work in the medical industry. I'm usually the first one out the door.

This area loves to load juries with black females.

Andrew



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July 05, 2019, 10:24 AM
Citadel
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Originally posted by El Cid 92:
Yep... Have to usually suffer thru 1 day of jury duty. Only have to do it once per 8 years in our area.

Usually, I get called into the pool on the first day. Then they question us and find out I'm white, male, a gun owner, support police/miltary, have advanced degrees (multiple) and work in the medical industry. I'm usually the first one out the door.

This area loves to load juries with black females.

Andrew



Funny, 32 years LE experience State/Federal. I'm gone in the first call. Bummer, there are a few I would have really liked to have sat on.
July 05, 2019, 10:54 AM
RogueJSK
I've gotten two jury summons in the mail over the past 10 years, with the attached questionnaire. Once I fill it out and send it in, I've never heard back. Likely has something to do with my answers about my occupation, and which LEOs and attorneys I know (something like "Too many to list in provided space").

However, I do know some officers that have been called up for juries for civil cases. Years ago, one of our guys was out for like 2 weeks on a lengthy civil case involving livestock waste and drainage.
July 05, 2019, 01:27 PM
ZSMICHAEL
TN doesn't use DL.
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What do they use to call voters? My daughter just moved there and got a jury summons within a month. No online answers were available, other than a computer selects it randomly. It stated that one must be a resident for 12 months, but apparently that criteria was not included. A friend told her it was because she got a TN drivers license.
July 05, 2019, 09:12 PM
comet24
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Originally posted by SFCUSARET:
Have to report for Jury duty today. What idiot at the county court house scheduled this crap a day before a national holiday? Would have liked to head out of town today for the holiday!


When did you get the notice? I got one once for the dates I had a trip planned. I called the number on the forum and they had no issue excusing me for those dates. They did change my date and send me another notice. I've found if you communicate with them in advance when you get the notice they will work with you. Although I am sure every court system is different.


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July 06, 2019, 03:57 PM
fiasconva
I've been called twice but never made it into the courtroom. I guess they think I'm either too smart or too stupid to decide guilt or innocence. I haven't figured out which one it is yet. *s*



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July 06, 2019, 04:24 PM
Floyd D. Barber
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
TN doesn't use DL.
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What do they use to call voters? My daughter just moved there and got a jury summons within a month. No online answers were available, other than a computer selects it randomly. It stated that one must be a resident for 12 months, but apparently that criteria was not included. A friend told her it was because she got a TN drivers license.



My MIL got called for jury duty, she's been blind for 50 years and has no DL.


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July 06, 2019, 05:18 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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My MIL got called for jury duty, she's been blind for 50 years and has no DL.

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If only Cas Walker were still around. He would have fixed it for me. LOL
July 06, 2019, 06:37 PM
Palm
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Originally posted by fiasconva:
I've been called twice but never made it into the courtroom. I guess they think I'm either too smart or too stupid to decide guilt or innocence. I haven't figured out which one it is yet. *s*


If you never even made it into the courtroom it's probably because the trial(s) they had planned for that day were adjourned or pled out.
July 08, 2019, 08:50 AM
selogic
I'm 61 yrs old and have only been summoned twice . Dismissed once , picked once , and never went to trial . Retired now so I don't care if they summon me now or not . My son is a Deputy so I probably won't get picked .
July 08, 2019, 09:39 AM
Expert308
I've been called twice in the 41 years I've lived here. First time we all sat in a room until mid-afternoon waiting for the judge and lawyers to get their act together. When they did finally get around to the selection, they filled the jury with the last person in front of me. The rest of us were dismissed, end of obligation.

Second time I did get selected and we all went to another room to wait. Sat there for an hour or two until somebody came and said the defendant had pled out. No trial, dismissed, end of obligation.

I was actually kind of disappointed in both cases. Maybe next time.
July 08, 2019, 09:53 AM
V-Tail
Last time I was on a jury, many many years ago, it was a civil suit. Crazy lady changed lanes on the highway, moving into a truck's blind spot, expecting the truck driver to somehow know that she was moving over and he should yield to her.

Damage to her car, no damage to the truck. Crazy lady was suing the truck driver.

We listened to the evidence, went to the jury room, and looked at each other for a minute or three.

Finally, I piped up and asked, "Does anybody think that loon actually has a valid claim for anything?"

The rest of the jurors all said no, we filed back into the court room. Over and done with in less than ten minutes.



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July 08, 2019, 12:05 PM
PeteF
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
TN doesn't use DL.
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What do they use to call voters? My daughter just moved there and got a jury summons within a month. No online answers were available, other than a computer selects it randomly. It stated that one must be a resident for 12 months, but apparently that criteria was not included. A friend told her it was because she got a TN drivers license.


Not sure about Tn, but NJ uses voter registration to get you on the "List"
July 08, 2019, 02:00 PM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by Expert308:
Sat there for an hour or two until somebody came and said the defendant had pled out. No trial, dismissed, end of obligation.


Cool. You got a taste of being a LEO who gets subpoenaed for trial.

95+% of the time, you show up (often on your day off), sit there for a while, and someone finally comes and tells you that the defendant is going to plead and you're released.
July 08, 2019, 07:15 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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95+% of the time, you show up (often on your day off), sit there for a while, and someone finally comes and tells you that the defendant is going to plead and you're released.

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Have had that happen more than once. The disrespect shown by the court at times to citizens is appalling. Being called to testify and subpoened is bad enough. It does not matter if you are compensated for the time or not. I have had friends that were practicing attorneys and they became Judges. They turned into insufferable narcissistic human beings overnight.
July 12, 2019, 10:25 AM
BB61
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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95+% of the time, you show up (often on your day off), sit there for a while, and someone finally comes and tells you that the defendant is going to plead and you're released.

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Have had that happen more than once. The disrespect shown by the court at times to citizens is appalling. Being called to testify and subpoened is bad enough. It does not matter if you are compensated for the time or not. I have had friends that were practicing attorneys and they became Judges. They turned into insufferable narcissistic human beings overnight.


May I suggest you look at it in a different way? Many times defendants are unwilling to face reality until the day of trial when the jury shows up. Suddenly they have a “Come to Jesus” moment and plead out. Your service that morning resulted in the defendant finally facing reality and taking the plea deal offered by the prosecution. Moreover, if a defendant waits to accept a plea deal until the day of trial, it’s not the judge’s fault. A judge cannot force a defendant to take a plea deal - a funny thing called the Constitution prevents that. Sure, the judge could have said its not timely and made you stay for whatever length of time the trial was scheduled. On the other hand, the judge could allow the late plea deal and let everyone go home early. Me? I’d rather go home early.

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July 12, 2019, 11:00 AM
ZSMICHAEL
Point accepted in regard to Jury trials of criminal matters. I have had more experience with civil matters and my point should have indicated that as well.
July 12, 2019, 11:48 AM
BB61
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Point accepted in regard to Jury trials of criminal matters. I have had more experience with civil matters and my point should have indicated that as well.


I appreciate that concession. But, civil trials are very similar to criminal trials when it comes to sudden resolutions. We call it settlement on the courthouse steps on the day of trial. In short, one or both of the parties finally realize that they have to justify their actions or lack thereof and a jury is waiting in the wings. And suddenly, miraculously, settlement happens. Once again, a judge can’t force litigants to settle (even if he/she thinks they should). That being said, I think a judge should explain what happened and thank the jury for their indirect service.


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July 12, 2019, 12:17 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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That being said, I think a judge should explain what happened and thank the jury for their indirect service.

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Thank you for taking the time to respond. I have not yet had the experience of being thanked for my time and service.
July 12, 2019, 05:26 PM
BB61
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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
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That being said, I think a judge should explain what happened and thank the jury for their indirect service.

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Thank you for taking the time to respond. I have not yet had the experience of being thanked for my time and service.


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I agree that showing up for service and then going home, with little or no explanation as to why you were not needed, would be very frustrating. Communication is key and it sounds like your courts could be more proactive.


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