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The parts of the story that I didn't include was that he had his pregnant SO with him, and his fridge had died earlier that day. He told me I was making him look like a hero for bringing home a good fridge at a great price 3 hours after his broke.
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I had a Honda XR250 that was almost factory new. I bought it from a guy that had money and lots of toys. He bought that and a Yamaha 225 so he and his wife could follow the kids on their quads. Each bike had 17 miles on them. I bought both bikes for a great price, kept them for 3 years hardly putting any miles on them, IIRC each had just over 1,000 miles on them when put up for sale.
I looked up the value and priced the bikes at $300 lower. I was asking $2,000 firm for the Honda. A guy called 3 times in 20 minutes offering $1,700 cash as if I was getting a good deal from him paying cash. He couldn't understand why I would not accept his offer. That afternoon the Honda sold for the asking price. The fellow that bought it ask why I was selling it so cheap. I explained that I got a deal on it when I bought it and thought I would sell it at a fair price.
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My response to unreasonable offers is to counter with price higher than that in the ad.
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"For Sale by Owner".
WHO else should be selling it? The guy who just stole it? For some reason always found that sign amusing.
A few of my buddies and I will do local gun shows maybe 2-3 times a year. Fill the table with stuff we no longer use, need, are interested in, etc.
We price it to move NOT the usual "add 50%" and hope for an idiot, show prices.
We will usually tell folks..."The price shown IS the price".
Still get guys who will look at a bargain priced item and offer you 50% of that! I usually tell them to move on. If they piss me off enough I will NOT sell the item to them.
Or the guy who shows up to buy a bike or a car. Bike is listed at $8K . He says...How about $5K CASH? Or...Whats your CASH price? Like I was going to take $8K worth of animal hides or whatever?
Who here doesn't offer a lower price when buying something, just about everyone I know puts a little bit on top because buyers negotiate and like to feel they got a deal.
It' just part of the game, if you are going to sell stuff to the public and this bothers you then maybe have someone sell it for you, been this way since man first began bartering in caves...
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I make an offer. Then maybe we haggle or maybe I walk away. Ideally I get the goods for less than listing price and the seller gets some cash. No deal no problem.
As a seller my price is what I listed. OBO means you bring me a number and we get to dealin.
If I think the price listed is a good deal, or even fair, I'll generally just offer the asking price. If I think it's marginal I'll counter with something I think is more reasonable. (I've never had a counter-offer refused.)
I never low-ball. Never.
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Just out of curiosity what would the lowest offer that you would consider NOT to be a lowball? Obviously 10% as in your example is pretty extreme.
I'm not completely useless. I can be used as a bad example.
Lowballing is a negotiating tactic also known as anchoring. It can be effective to some extent. It largely depends on how motivated (or desperate) the seller is or if the seller is ignorant of his item's FMV.
What posters in this thread are complaining about are interested buyers who think they are a lot more savvy at negotiating than they really are. So yeah... if you post something at $1000 knowing that is a fair price, they will try to anchor you at $500 hoping you'll split the difference at ~$750.
We've all come across sellers who think they're clever and anchor the other way too. Pawn shops are notorious for tagging their used crap at brand new prices, b/c they expect their customers to 'make an offer' on everything.
As others here have touched on:
1. If you anchor or lowball too low, then you risk offending the seller and ending negotiation all together.
2. If you really want/need something, you should avoid offending the seller due to #1.
3. If you don't mind offending the seller, b/c hey, it's just business, then you must not want the item that badly.
Some ppl are natural hagglers. If you offer them a pistol mag for $1, they'll offer you 50 cents. It's part of their personality. They always want to see if they can get something for less. There's also the cultural aspect where in some cultures this kind of haggling is common and accepted.
Finally, there's the element of, "You never know unless you ask."
I've bought my fair share of stuff for less than I was expecting, simply b/c I threw out a low figure, and then the seller accepted.
Everything I see you list on this forum is usually gone in minutes and I am kicking myself for not seeing it before it is sold. I did get lucky on a set of grips you were selling.
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