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When to use “I” and when to use “me.”

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January 28, 2019, 06:26 PM
sigfreund
When to use “I” and when to use “me.”
This is one of the most common grammatical mistakes. Learning the simple rules that govern when to use the pronoun I and when to use me can make a big difference in how other (educated) people view the state of one’s education.

I and we are subject pronouns.
Examples: I am going home, We went to Europe last year.

Me and us are object pronouns.
Examples: The pitcher threw the ball to me. The drill sergeant made us do pushups.

Most reasonably literate English speakers would use the pronouns correctly in the above examples. What trips up a very large number of people, though, is when they’re used with compound (more than one) subjects or objects.

Proper: My brother and I are going home.
Improper: My brother and me are going home.

Again, most people will probably get that right, but what about these:
The drill sergeant made Joe and I do pushups.
The drill sergeant made Joe and me do pushups.
My father bought my brother and me ice cream.
My father bought my brother and I ice cream.

In both cases, the proper pronoun is me, and how do we know? (Not “how do us know?”)

The simple way of determining the proper pronoun in such sentences is to eliminate the compound object. How do these sound?

The drill sergeant made I do pushups.
My father bought I ice cream.

The word to or at usually indicates an object follows:
The insurgents shot at me.
The insurgents shot at us.
The insurgents shot at my squad mates and me. (Not “squad mates and I.”)
The groupies threw their panties to me.
The groupies threw their panties to us.
The groupies threw their panties to the guitarist and me. (Not “guitarist and I.”)




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January 28, 2019, 06:37 PM
.38supersig
She and I went to Gemini when I been with him an 'em M&Ms.




January 28, 2019, 07:20 PM
MNSIG
It seems to be increasingly common for people to incorrectly use “myself” instead of “me” or “I”.

My wife and myself went to the store.
January 28, 2019, 07:24 PM
RogB
I'm going to copy and paste these rules so I don't loose them


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January 28, 2019, 07:30 PM
phydough
Allow myself to introduce.....myself.
January 28, 2019, 07:42 PM
Skins2881
I was always told just remove the other person and that solves it.

The drill sergeant made Joe and I do pushups.

If you still get it wrong after that, you're beyond help.



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January 28, 2019, 07:46 PM
arfmel
Next please do one on “bring” and “take”. Thank you.
January 28, 2019, 07:52 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by MNSIG:
It seems to be increasingly common for people to incorrectly use “myself” instead of “me” or “I”.

My wife and myself went to the store.


My wife and I went to the store.

Unless you're from Jamaica. Then it's acceptable to say "Me went to the store."

Also for cookie monster, as in "me want cookies."
January 28, 2019, 07:54 PM
Gustofer
Aren't we supposed to be using "xe" now?


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January 28, 2019, 08:06 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
Moi was happy with your thread Razz


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January 28, 2019, 08:47 PM
MikeGLI
In the “me vs I”debate, a lot of people seem to think “I” always prevails and it hurts my brain.
“Mute point” level hurt. I just bite my knuckle and stare out the window.




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January 28, 2019, 09:08 PM
Sir Guy
quote:
Originally posted by MNSIG:
It seems to be increasingly common for people to incorrectly use “myself” instead of “me” or “I”.

My wife and myself went to the store.

This. I see it quite a bit on my guys’ paperwork. Usually it’s, “Myself and ____ went to...” or “He and her said” etc.

Of course, try showing someone a photo, asking, “Is this he?” and not getting an odd look!
January 28, 2019, 09:45 PM
sigcrazy7
But... but... using “I” as an object pronoun makes me sound all educated. It’s true. I hear it used that way on CNN!! I gives me gravitas!

Seriously, though, regarding the use of the word “myself.” I’ve wondered if the increasing use of the reflexive “myself” in English is being driven by the influence of Spanish speakers, where their native tongue uses reflexive constructs much more so than in English. Just a hunch.



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January 28, 2019, 09:58 PM
MikeGLI
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
But... but... using “I” as an object pronoun makes me sound all educated. It’s true. I hear it used that way on CNN!! I gives me gravitas!

Seriously, though, regarding the use of the word “myself.” I’ve wondered if the increasing use of the reflexive “myself” in English is being driven by the influence of Spanish speakers, where their native tongue uses reflexive constructs much more so than in English. Just a hunch.


Possibly. Or people are fucking idiots. Or the education system encourages this shit.




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January 28, 2019, 10:29 PM
V-Tail
Thank you.



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January 28, 2019, 11:14 PM
RHINOWSO
So... what do WE like for I and Me usage...?

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January 29, 2019, 12:09 AM
KMitch200
Me worry about having enough money towards the end of the month before payday.
Grammer schammer....I got bigger fish to fried.


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January 29, 2019, 07:08 AM
NK402
I am so tired of hearing the younger generation constantly say "me and my friend" did such and such.
January 29, 2019, 07:56 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by NK402:

I am so tired of hearing the younger generation constantly say "me and my friend" did such and such.
That's nothing new. I'm 82, and I remember that from when I was a kid.



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January 29, 2019, 08:33 AM
DennisM
[BOB MARLEY] Old pirates, yes, they rob I,
Sold I to the merchant ships...
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