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St. Elizabeths Hospital in D.C. kicked off this campaign back in 1916, when Congress named it St. Elizabeths.
 
 
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sometimes a guy just likes to use a different key, now and then





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1906 President Teddy Roosevelt inadvertent left off the apostrophe when naming Devils Tower as the nations first monument.

The native Americans want the name changed, the local economies do not.

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1906 President Teddy Roosevelt inadvertent left off the apostrophe when naming Devils Tower as the nations first monument.

The native Americans want the name changed, the local economies do not.

http://www.santafenewmexican.c...c2-760f0eb032ac.html

St. Elizabeths was not inadvertent. The name dates to Colonial times and was given to the tract of land which eventually became the hospital. Apparently, rules of grammar back then considered the apostrophe optional for possessive use, and the land owner named his tract St. Elizabeths. The hospital was chartered in the 1850's as the "Government Hospital for the Insane", though it was still informally and widely referred to as St. Elizabeths. Congress made this official in 1916 with a name change, and stuck with the original spelling. I picked up this bit of history when I worked there for 3 years in the early 1970's.
 
 
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Two more places where the apostrophe doesn't belong: Smith & Wesson Chiefs Special (Model 36) and Veterans Day. These are in honor of police chiefs and veterans respectively, not belonging to them.



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I saw " oughta' " the other day.




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Two more places where the apostrophe doesn't belong: Smith & Wesson Chiefs Special (Model 36) and Veterans Day. These are in honor of police chiefs and veterans respectively, not belonging to them.
After respectively, is that a lower case apostrophe ?
 
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If I were a poet, I would write

"Apostrophe to the Apostrophe"

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I'm really not a grammar nazi but for the love of GOD when did anyone get taught in school that you make words plural by using an apostrophe? Just plain ignorant.
 
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I'm really not a grammar nazi but for the love of GOD when did anyone get taught in school that you make words plural by using an apostrophe? Just plain ignorant.


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I agree. Folk's simply dont know well grammar and punctuation anymore.

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I have basically learned to ignore it,
since my grammer is not all that great anyway,

I also will use a comma vs a period, but that is just lazy typing,


the one that makes me shake my head is the over abundance of the ! key,

some! folks! just! love! it!

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Apostrophe?
You mean the Air Comma?
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St. Elizabeths was not inadvertent. The name dates to Colonial times and was given to the tract of land which eventually became the hospital. Apparently, rules of grammar back then considered the apostrophe optional for possessive use, and the land owner named his tract St. Elizabeths. The hospital was chartered in the 1850's as the "Government Hospital for the Insane", though it was still informally and widely referred to as St. Elizabeths. Congress made this official in 1916 with a name change, and stuck with the original spelling. I picked up this bit of history when I worked there for 3 years in the early 1970's.
 


Ahem.
 
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1850's ... 1970's.


Ahem.


I recall actually seeing many, many years ago a rule that apostrophes be used as above to indicate the plural of abbreviations and numbers, e.g., “The NCO’s met to discuss problems with the M1’s.” Much later I tried to confirm that as the accepted usage, but if it was ever a rule it seems to have died in later times.




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St. Elizabeths was not inadvertent. The name dates to Colonial times and was given to the tract of land which eventually became the hospital. Apparently, rules of grammar back then considered the apostrophe optional for possessive use, and the land owner named his tract St. Elizabeths. The hospital was chartered in the 1850's as the "Government Hospital for the Insane", though it was still informally and widely referred to as St. Elizabeths. Congress made this official in 1916 with a name change, and stuck with the original spelling. I picked up this bit of history when I worked there for 3 years in the early 1970's.
 


Ahem.

I had to do something with the apostrophes that St. Elizabeths did not use in that post. I even had one left over. Smile
 
 
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I agree with you. But found this funny.
Looks like Henry Rollins' dad.


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Originally posted by trapper189:
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1850's ... 1970's.


Ahem.


I recall actually seeing many, many years ago a rule that apostrophes be used as above to indicate the plural of abbreviations and numbers, e.g., “The NCO’s met to discuss problems with the M1’s.” Much later I tried to confirm that as the accepted usage, but if it was ever a rule it seems to have died in later times.


The style guide that I use in legal writing (the Texas Law Review Manual On Style) has the opposite rule - do not use apostrophes for plural numbers or abbreviations - simply add an s. So it would be:

1990s
NCOs

The Chicago Manual Of Style agrees.

I think the basic rule is that apostrophes are for possessives. They are not for plurals.




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So it would be:

1990s
NCOs

The Chicago Manual Of Style agrees.


That’s what I follow, but as I said I do recall seeing the other a long time ago.
Grammar rules change like anything else, or I may be remembering something that was wrong even at the time.




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